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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
Vaxxed. Apparently Boosted recently. Discussed in Covid thread... "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
^^^ thank you
That was my very first thought when I heard the news. We live in upside down pineapple cake world now. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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I just heard that all the Bills are vaxed. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Except for Cole Beasley who held out, lost his job, then recently invited back. Right before this game. The Buffalo Bills elevated wideout Cole Beasley and offensive lineman Alec Anderson from the practice squad. The announcement came just hours before kickoff between the Bills and the Cincinnati Bengals. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Partial dichotomy |
This sounds a bit tin foil hat, but honestly these days, it wouldn't surprise me if someone in power felt the discussion could go this way and nipped it in the bud. ETA, if this scares enough people....and it should, given the vax status of the league, I wonder how this could affect playing the game? SIGforum: For all your needs! Imagine our influence if every gun owner in America was an NRA member! Click the box>>>  | |||
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Republican in training |
It's completely fucking foil hat. Take it off. -------------------- I like Sigs and HK's, and maybe Glocks | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss  |
I, for one, will take a knee and thank God Almighty when this vaccine hysteria finally dies. The guy took a hard shot to the chest at a precise time in the cardiac cycle and it disrupted his rhythm. A one in a million shot. Nothing more. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
I didn't watch the game but the line "every play might be your last" is over the top. I'm not against grown men crying. Everyone has a different constitution. A tempering attitude is what Para said - that these people knew they had eyes watching. "Oh, the camera may be on me. I better emote that I'm a caring human being." It's not like the guy died. I would cringe more if there was a broken bone and I've seen players take that stoically seeing someone get their bone broken. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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| Eschew Obfuscation |
Yep. I was at a college football game when one of the referees had a heart attack on the field (and it was later announced that he died). Everyone was silent while he was attended to and taken away in an ambulance. Then the game resumed. _____________________________________________________________________ “One of the common failings among honorable people is a failure to appreciate how thoroughly dishonorable some other people can be, and how dangerous it is to trust them.” – Thomas Sowell | |||
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It was sad sight to see.  Sure the player - who wants that BUT the reaction and the way it was handled was awful. Had an argument with a buddy who called the whole thing PC and Woke. MY view it was not political but more of a "pussified" society now days. Once they did CPR in front of everybody - it was all over. The PR could only get worse, and the only alternative was to stop it (the game). Even though there was nothing anyone could do except the med crew - to play would be a media nightmare. Hell, I heard criticism they didn't suspend the game earlier (took about an hour).  | |||
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He had a hit in the right spot to make go into cardiac arrest. If I am not mistaken hockey players have been hit in the chest with pucks with the same results before the vax was around. Let all Men know thee, but no man know thee thoroughly: Men freely ford that see the shallows. Benjamin Franklin | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
Suspend the game, don't suspend the game, whatever. While this was being figured out and players were in full view of the world, they needed to keep their shit wrapped tight. It seems that the women of our society no longer question such behavior from men anymore. There was certainly a time when they did so- say for, oh, ever since Homo Sapiens came to be. Men who cry easily are less threatening to women. Make of that what you will. | |||
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Yes, this is a thing. Yes, it has killed people. Yes, it might have happened here. However, it is extremely rare in full grown men, especially guys this size. The reason people take blows to the chest and die is because enough force is imparted to the heart, and the phenomenon usually happens to younger, e.g. smaller guys. I hate offended people. They come in two flavours - huffy and whiny - and it's hard to know which is worst. The huffy ones are self-important, narcissistic authoritarians in love with the sound of their own booming disapproval, while the whiny, sparrowlike ones are so annoying and sickly and ill-equipped for life on Earth you just want to smack them round the head until they stop crying and grow up. - Charlie Brooker | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
I wouldn't presume to know what happened to this guy. I'll leave the speculation to others. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Receiving CPR was the difference. There have been serious injuries in professional sports, but there's something about seeing someone receive CPR - it dawns on you that the recipient's heart is no longer beating. In many people's untrained mind, death is a strong possibility. You could read the expression on the players' faces. They were shocked and distraught. It was clear they were in no mental mood to play the rest of the game. I think the delay in postponing the game was the negotiating between the NFL, NFLPA, and the teams on how to suspend the game and determine how/when to resume it. I'm not going to knock the guys for crying or being emotional. We don't knock when they're crying when they win the Super Bowl or MVP. P229 | |||
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ammoholic |
CPR and an AED are used on people who have no discernable pulse and have stopped breathing. Theoretically, on people who are dead (there are some who have irregular heart activity as correctly stated above). He was revived, according to all the news today. I didn't watch the game, and only saw the news after everyone was talking about it. This is a professional athlete supposedly in his prime. He got hit, and the hit was supposedly not a catastrophic hit. It doesn't even matter the cause. I saw an ambulance take the player off the field. I've never seen a game stop, never seen this type of overreaction. Yeah, i might be a tad more callous than most. But it happens every single day. Shit happens. When it happens to you, it hurts. It's normal life. Crying is reserved for those moments that transcend normal. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Neither am I. I'm criticizing them for doing it in public, in full view of who knows how many thousands of people. | |||
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I happened on that while channel surfing. They were trying to sound intelligent and failed miserbly. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Look at the player on the right side of this composite pic, the one facing left and who has his hands steepled over his nose and mouth. For God's sake! That is a purely female gesture if ever there was one.  He's letting all those fans know that he cares, he really cares- and hopes the cameras catch his caring.  | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
IIRC, it's happened to ball players, too. ISTR a pitcher or shortstop taking a ball to the chest off a bat being killed this way a few years ago? Never mind the pads these guys wear, which, from what I'm seeing, appear to cover the entire chest? "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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