Yet further indication of the softening of our society.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports...een-anything-like-it

Those weeping players- and the ones walking around on the sidelines with their hands on their head or squatting on the balls of their feet- they knew they were being watched by thousands of people in the stadium and countless people on TV. Yes, it's upsetting. Of course it is upsetting, but up until the past few years, men held it in until it was just not possible to hold it in any longer. The very last thing that should happen, then, is for these players to make this event about themselves.

The only time I saw my father cry was at his father's funeral. I was 8 years old and I was shocked. I had never seen a grown man cry, and certainly not in public, but my father weeped like a child. Never again after that.

In the world I grew up in, it was considered unmanly to cry in public and society allowed only the slightest leeway for exceptions to this, but now it's perfectly fine to do this, and it doesn't help this old world, when those of us who are supposed to project strength turn into weepy puddles.

Worse, the "coaches" pulled them off the field. Its Ok that they did that, but they didn't forfeit the game for their stunt. Yeah, it was a stunt. The tough play on, hardship or not.

I've played in a lot of games, been to a lot more, and watched a huge number of them. First time I've ever seen a player hauled off the field and the rest of them puss out and not play on. And these are 2 of the best teams in pro ball. Maybe.

I'm 62, I might cry if one of my children would die.
Your not supposed to outlive your children.

I was watching that game, and the coverage was different than anything I’ve ever seen. Para’s point about men not crying in public is not lost on me, but this was treated differently than any injury I’ve ever seen.

There have been games where there is a neck injury, and they stabilize the player and transport him off the field, with no one knowing if he’ll ever walk again. In those cases, players take knees, pray, are obviously concerned, but then the game resumes.

The players and broadcasters treated this like he may have died. And I guess he practically did die. His heart stopped. They at least temporarily revived him, but we don’t know if he’ll live.

Perhaps watching your friend maybe die is different than suffering even a horrific injury.

I’m also 62, and agree with what’s been said above.

I might cry when I lose my father or for the loss of a child.

This is another example of the touchy/feely world we live in today. The more of this stuff I see, the more I believe the comet that Para has spoken of in the past, might be the only option left.

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Of course it is upsetting, but up until the past few years, men held it in until it was just not possible to hold it in any longer. The very last thing that should happen, then, is for these players to make this event about themselves.

The only time I saw my father cry was at his father's funeral. I was 8 years old and I was shocked. I had never seen a grown man cry, and certainly not in public, but my father weeped like a child. Never again after that.

People react differently in the face of sudden loss. Most of them stood silently. A few clearly wanted to play on. I'm not so sure getting a little weepy was an attempt to make this event about themselves.

My own father is now 80 and has become a bit more emotional in his older age.

While we don’t have all the information yet, technically I don’t believe his heart stopped.

It went into an arrhythmia, which no longer efficiently moves blood around. Got the T-shirt, the mug…

One of the commentators last night was having trouble describing the "unique" bond these "men" form on the field. "Every play might be your last" and some such crap... I was like, you ever heard of the military? ya bone head?

Well said, Para.

Never in my life time did I see this happening to the USA. What will happen to the USA if we are ever forced into another World War?



"Win one for the Gipper"


This originated in American football. Knute Rockne was the coach of the US Notre Dame team in the 1920s and George Gipp was his star player. The story goes that Gipp fell ill and when dying he asked Rockne to promise that, when things were going badly for the team, he should inspire them by asking them to 'win one for The Gipper'.
Ronald Reagan played the part of Gipp in the 1940 film Knute Rockne: All American. The screenplay has the line:
And the last thing he said to me, "Rock," he said, "sometime when the team is up against it and the breaks are beating the boys, tell them to go out there with all they've got and win just one for the Gipper.


Reagan was given the nickname Gipper, which lasted throughout his life. Reagan later used the quotation when seeking election as US president.

I don't get why they stopped the game and now postponed it. Players get hurt all the time and the game goes on. There was absolutely nothing anybody there could do for the young man injured. To add to what stoic-one said, the NFL is always making analogies to the players and "warriors." Well, a military operation continues when there are casualties. People payed a lot of money to see the game, not only for tickets, but everything else in order to get there, and the game had big playoff implications.

Rush called it the chicifacation of USA.

Woke fuckers are about to get a wake up call.

They continued the game when soccers Erikson had a heart attack on the field. https://youtu.be/XPwYJD6KNj0

Going forward, it will be interesting to see if this is the new normal.
When I heard they stopped and postponed the game I assumed he had died or clearly (to those in the know) that he couldn't survive this. I don't recall this type of reaction before. There was a game several years ago when a guy have a terrible looking leg injury and you could tell by their reaction that it was bad but no crying or ending the game.
There have been other sporting events in the past where people have actually died and it continued.

All involved suddenly cottoned to why American football was considered a gladiatorial sport.

Crying: Acceptable at funerals and the Grand Canyon.

-Ron Swanson

I think some of those guys weeping/crying was perfectly normal. Spend an inordinate amount of time with and around each other, and you see somebody you're close with collapse, then medical personnel are having to do CPR and use a AED, the implications of it all that hits people in different ways. There's been enough actions where a player is having to be stabilized fearing paralysis but, performing CPR and working to resuscitate, that's a different level.

I thought the more annoying and grating aspect of the coverage, was the broadcasters incessant referencing to the time-line of events. Getting overly exact, a fussy obsession, as to when and the sequence of events.....what difference does it make if he collapsed at 9:05 or, 9:08?!?!

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Originally posted by stoic-one:
One of the commentators last night was having trouble describing the "unique" bond these "men" form on the field. "Every play might be your last" and some such crap... I was like, you ever heard of the military? ya bone head?

People have a need to create "heroes" who can be exalted, and when real examples are not found, these heroes are created out of whatever is at hand, and in this phony culture we have, this stuff is everywhere.

What really gets me is the cliched and cloying language of this false idolatry- talking about "unique bonds" as you mentioned. Ridiculous. It's a professional sport. Any such bonds exist between a player and his contract. They're out there for self-enrichment. The "bond" they have is with the almighty dollar.

I’m curious about his Covid vaccination status…

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
I’m curious about his Covid vaccination status…

Apparently, so is half of twatter...

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Originally posted by BMR:
I don't get why they stopped the game and now postponed it. Players get hurt all the time and the game goes on. There was absolutely nothing anybody there could do for the young man injured. To add to what stoic-one said, the NFL is always making analogies to the players and "warriors." Well, a military operation continues when there are casualties. People payed a lot of money to see the game, not only for tickets, but everything else in order to get there, and the game had big playoff implications.

TPTB could not take any risks of discussion or mention on a live national tv broadcast about what possibly could have a contributing factor of his collapse (other than a hard hit), like the covid-19 vaccine for example.

As others have mentioned, games have always continued after player’s sustain terrible injuries.

Why is this different? What has changed?

Is it now NFL policy to discontinue playing a game when a player gets badly hurt?