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Originally posted by jhe888:
One in 10,000 trials (and probably far fewer) would be of any interest to anyone. One in a million hearings would be of interest. I wouldn't burden the government with the cost and duty to broadcast those proceedings. If you want to watch it, go down to the courthouse. We've got far better things to spend government money on.

Unfortunately, those are not the things that the Progressives want to spend it on.

flashguy

Folks have lots of different interests. The same arguments were put forth in terms of filming Congress. Perhaps just a few. The Maxwell and Holmes trial would be of interest. Kim Potter's trial would also be pertinent.

After seeing a few trials where video evidence was either purposefully "mis-represented", or the video captured (being two dimensional) provides a false "fact" (perspective, depth of field/distance) that a person "sees" things that are/were not as they actually occurred.

People are conditioned to "believe" a picture/video, and we have all seen CGI, "shopped" images and simple "optical illusions" that are definite articles in photo/video.

Not that the intentional manipulation is the greatest concern, but the taking advantage of the "natural" variances that present a "false fact" and those shown in a manner to accentuate them.

And all the recording devices in use today, do very little to prevent people from "doing wrong", (watching people brazenly break the law, and get away with it). To think those that would abuse power, or commit violations would not do so because they are recorded, would simply figure out more cunning and devious methods to get around recording. And to go as far as to use recording in such subterfuges that would help them cover what they do.

Magicians, Film/stage actors, Comedians, Politicians, Sales and Marketing, children and men who want to get laid.

Solomon said, "nothing new under the sun".

Mankind is the same ol' same ol', from the time he was drawing animals on the cave walls and making the dinosaur bigger than it really was on the hunt, to Binger, and his twenty seven eight-by-ten color glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against us.

Pictures of the approach, the getaway, the northwest corner the southwest corner and that's not to mention the aerial photography.

Throwing money and technology at another problem does not fix the problem, fixing the problem fixes the problem.

Try, convict and sentence them that abuse, disbar them, shame them, humiliate them that violate the ethics and the laws.

"We the People... have the power, but it means we have to roll up sleeves and reach in the clogged commode and start clearing the crap. O complain about the smell. Again, and again, and...

We have seen some of our own get involved in politics or other means to effect change.

-Pogo
(paraphrasing...)

so has anything happened to the persecutors?

Crowder just had him LIVE:
Pretty well composed kid FWIW.

^^^ Kyle ripping on Dave Landau for being fat was cracking me up.

Good discussion all around with Crowder.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:

Mankind is the same ol' same ol', from the time he was drawing animals on the cave walls and making the dinosaur bigger than it really was on the hunt, to Binger, and his twenty seven eight-by-ten color glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against us.

I wonder if they got food from Alice's Restaurant during the trial?

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by 46and2:
We (nationwide) do need to stream all trials, almost always.

Too much behind the scenes shit goes sideways. Too many side deals. Too many lies.

Too many people in positions of power can't be trusted, too many abuses of power.

One in 10,000 trials (and probably far fewer) would be of any interest to anyone. One in a million hearings would be of interest. I wouldn't burden the government with the cost and duty to broadcast those proceedings. If you want to watch it, go down to the courthouse. We've got far better things to spend government money on.

We'd need a decade or two of incredibly close scrutiny to see what's what.

1 in 100,000 or 1 in 20, we'll never know the way things currently happen.

Shine some light into these dusty corners, show what really goes on to all.

A transparent government with substantial oversight is a good government.

^^ Well, as long as you can keep everyone from playing to the cameras. Something like that would mean that every traffic ticket hearing in LA could stretch out for months.

Playing to the cameras is an infinitesimally small concern as compared to backroom fuckery, crooked DAs and Judges, and other miscarriages of justice that go largely unnoticed because most never see what actually happens in each case.

Shine some light on things, lots and lots of bright light. In judges chambers, in the rooms where DAs make deals, in grand juries, in most every step where shit goes sideways but goes unseen and gets swept under the proverbial rug again and again.

The so called halls of justice are as fucked up as a football bat in as many ways as they are good... from Traffic Court to Murder cases. Countless little fiefdoms scattered about the country, from Kenosha to the rest. Shine light on it all...

Short of some literal national security issue, or something with a child victim perhaps, other edge cases I'm sure, there are scant few things and cases that are genuinely, reasonably, too sensitive and damaging for the public/victims to see.

Fuck the court's reputation and what not, this is about public trust/transparency, and Kenosha is simply the most recent, most visible, most blatant example of what can and does actually happen, and under the guise of law and order and the rest.

Put these motherfuckers under a microscope, for forever more, on tape, visible... never again should a single ADA/DA, anywhere, ever, be able to make such absurd arguments as they did in the Rittenhouse case without extraordinary fallout.

And on and on.

Our justice system doesn't need to go faster, it needs to slow down, be scrutinized, be... transparent.

Kyle Rittenhouse appears to be facing harassment from both individuals and organizations who want to take it into their own hands to hold him "accountable", despite the fact that he was acquitted by a jury of his peers.

Shortly after that incident, Rittenhouse himself received a warning from EA Games for featuring language that could "harm others or negatively disrupt the game", according to an email shared by Rittenhouse on his platform.

The language in question? Rittenhouse's own name, which is featured in an online handle.

Interestingly, Rittenhouse didn’t even use his name on EAs own online platform, but rather the company found that he used it on Steam, the world’s largest PC games distribution service which players use to buy and download games created by different developers. The name, EA’s email continued, is an "inappropriate reference" to "violence, terror, and tragic events."

So, put another way, EA doesn't even want Rittenhouse buying its games, unless he does so anonymously.

Link

One wonders how EA might react if Rittenhouse's supporters decided to call for a boycott of its games?

I think Kyle needs to think about changing his last name. It is not that expensive. Rap artists do it regularly.

Agreed, he should go after the handle of "McLovin".

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
I think Kyle needs to think about changing his last name. It is not that expensive. Rap artists do it regularly.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
I think Kyle needs to think about changing his last name. It is not that expensive. Rap artists do it regularly.

I would never surrender my name, the name my father passed down to me, to these cackling pond scum.

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I would never surrender my name, the name my father passed down to me, to these cackling pond scum.

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Well in Kyle's case it would make sense. It did not seem as if his father was very involved with his life, so there is no great legacy there. It is about going on with your life not being a moving target.

I have never been in his position, but I’ve often pondered what I’d do if I were. I guess it really comes down to what you want out of life. Now that I’m on the downhill side of my life, I would cherish peace and anonymity above all other. However, I cannot say that I would have felt the same back when I was eighteen, so full of life and optimism.

Now I’d choose to move someplace remote and disappear from the world. I would be happy to move someplace like Kettle Falls, WA, perhaps load trucks for Boise Cascade, or better, drive them. Nobody can track you down when you’re constantly on the road. Become a local in a small, remote town, and let that town become your friends and family. Spend your summers fishing on the Columbia River and perhaps raising a couple kids. That’s what I would do. If anybody was hell bent on tracking me down, I’d make it a pain for them. No nearby airport, an all day drive, etc. Perhaps Eureka, NV?

I certainly wouldn’t be all over the news and social media. I wouldn’t even have a Steam account, so my name wouldn’t ever keep coming up in the news. I would be a nobody. I’d be like the guy who hijacked the first commercial jet, invisible. What’s his name? Cooper? Not sure, he seems to have vanished.

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It is hard to disappear. Richard Kimble, the doctor chasing the one armed bandit taught us that. Whitey Bulger did a pretty good job.

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
Nobody can track you down when you’re constantly on the road.

If I thought somebody was tracking me down I'd become very visible and set up an ambush for them. I don't react well to people coming after me.

Kyle has very little chance of a normal life now. The left isn't going to let this go, not now. Already, Instagram cancelled his newly reestablished account and when questioned they said it was a "mistake". He's going to be screwed around by "woke" social media, banks, credit card companies, lawyers, you name it. They will deny him service until called out publicly so they can claim "mistake". Funny how the mistakes never go on the other direction.

His best course of action is to win the defamation lawsuits, hire competent and trustworthy financial managers. In the mean time he needs to found a 2nd Amendment Self Defence 501C3 for fundraising to defend other people who are charged unjustly after defending themselves, and pay himself a salary as the head of the organization. This is a tall order for an 18 year old, but perhaps beyond his understanding now. Hopefully the right people advise him and don't take advantage.

You might say that he will fade from public discourse like George Zimmerman, but that case was different. There wasn't any video, only one person was shot, it was not a BLM riot, Zimmerman was an adult with a carry permit, his handgun was not visible before he drew and fired it, and it was pre George Floyd. It was also pre-"woke" media and corporations.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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It is hard to disappear. Richard Kimble, the doctor chasing the one armed bandit taught us that. Whitey Bulger did a pretty good job.

Not really hard at all.
Just get way away from the USA.
Stay off the radar. "Hi, my name is Jose'..." with an accent after he clears Customs in whatever warm country he finds nice.
"Hey, you look familiar..."
"Yeah, I get that a lot. I'm in gay porn."
Then walk away.

Go somewhere else about a year later, lather, rinse, repeat.
Come back well after the dust has settled, and 95% of the population forgets about him.