https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr2SLCnJWBw
The Irrational Hatred of Donald Trump #NeverTrump
Is a long video if you spend time to listen to it lots of what he's talking do make sense, I rather listen to him than Levin or all these so call conservative talk show host.

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Originally posted by skyline009:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr2SLCnJWBw
The Irrational Hatred of Donald Trump #NeverTrump
Is a long video if you spend time to listen . . . .

I have listened to all of your posted links. I have other things that I'd like to add to them but do not have time. The earlier links were a great methodical resource. Thanks.

Wow. This latest one is very indirect. Using the caller format is not as good as the earlier ones you posted. The other ones were more to the point.

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Absolutely ridiculous- looking at the world post obama. Where was the concern when an inexperienced fool was elected to the presidency of the United States of America?

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'Deportations to begin': Boston Globe unveils lampoon Trump edition of Sunday newspaper... to give a taste of what America would be like if The Donald became President

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...unday-newspaper.html

The RNC has thrown all its support to Cruz. See the article linked. Cruz is a smart guy, surely he must realize that they are with him for one purpose only: to knock out Donald Trump. If Trump were gone, they would turn on him in a second. Their plan seems to be: Nobody gets 1237. Second ballot, their boy makes an appearance-- Paul Ryan, my bet-- and takes the nomination.

Cruz is acting as their stooge.

His political career will be over.

The Republican Party will be dead.

We'll have a POTUS who got into the White House because she managed to avoid prison. Ponder that a while.

I think Donald Trump--assclown, and with all his flaws-- cares about America. He's one of the very few politicians in America about whom that can be said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/polit...t-colorado-delegates

Justjoe
The is exactly how I feel about Trump, he is an assclown but he do care about his country, he could continue to play the game he got enough money to brought off all these corrupted politician instead of risking everything that he has. Crus will not win the white house this country has gone to far to the left, he won't have enough vote.

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Originally posted by justjoe:
The RNC has thrown all its support to Cruz. See the article linked. Cruz is a smart guy, surely he must realize that they are with him for one purpose only: to knock out Donald Trump. If Trump were gone, they would turn on him in a second. Their plan seems to be: Nobody gets 1237. Second ballot, their boy makes an appearance-- Paul Ryan, my bet-- and takes the nomination.

Cruz is acting as their stooge.

His political career will be over.

The Republican Party will be dead.

We'll have a POTUS who got into the White House because she managed to avoid prison. Ponder that a while.

I think Donald Trump--assclown, and with all his flaws-- cares about America. He's one of the very few politicians in America about whom that can be said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/polit...t-colorado-delegates

The current 8 state rule makes it so Ryan can't get on the ballot at any point in time. The same rule applies to Kasich as well. As I understand it Cruz and Trump will have a major say in what rules are adopted prior to the convention. If they choose to eliminate the 8 state rule it's on them, but I don't think they will let that happen.

http://www.politico.com/story/...ertrump-tweet-221766

Moments after announcing that Ted Cruz had swept all 34 delegate slots at the Colorado GOP convention Saturday, the state party tweeted: "We did it. #NeverTrump."

Within minutes, the tweet had been deleted.


Steve House, the Colorado GOP chairman, insisted his staff had nothing to do with the tweet and is now investigating.

"There's no way we tweeted that," House said, although he acknowledged that the state party was responsible for deleting it.

Even though it only existed in the ether of cyberspace for a few minutes, the optics of such a tweet coming from the neutral arbiter of Saturday's delegate selection process amidst a hard-fought trench war between Cruz and Donald Trump to secure the Republican presidential nomination rankled a number of Colorado Republicans.

Several local GOP operatives were quick to suggest that the tweet, which was quickly deleted, was the work of the two young Republican operatives at D/CO, a newly formed Republican consulting firm that caters on outreach to Millennials. Caleb Bonham and Kyle Forti, who formed D/CO in December, just took over a number of clients from another local firm, Avinova, which used to assist the Colorado GOP with social media.

But Forti denied that he or Bonham were responsible and said they don't have access to the state GOP's Twitter feed.

Ackks, Though I'd like to, I don't find your post reassuring. These "rules" are in place via the RNC. They are the kinds of rules that can easily be screwed with-- interpreted, loopholed, parsed-- in a word, "lawyered."

Yeah, all we can do is hope. I'm sure some games will be played, but if they do in fact have a major say in that June rules meeting they should be alright. Nothing can be changed prior to that meeting, so we'll know then. That's where the real fight needs to take place. Keeping that 8 state rule will take care of any chance of Ryan or Kasich. If they box everyone else out we'll have nothing to worry about in Cleveland.

If they are able to eliminate it even with Cruz and Trump having a major say then we know something is up. Until thing things aren't as bad as people are saying

PS One thing not being discussed is what happens to Kasich's delegates if they do in fact keep that 8 state rule in June? If he can't use them to win he'll probably use them to become Trump's VP.

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Originally posted by justjoe:
The RNC has thrown all its support to Cruz. See the article linked. Cruz is a smart guy, surely he must realize that they are with him for one purpose only: to knock out Donald Trump. If Trump were gone, they would turn on him in a second. Their plan seems to be: Nobody gets 1237. Second ballot, their boy makes an appearance-- Paul Ryan, my bet-- and takes the nomination.

Cruz is acting as their stooge.

His political career will be over.

The Republican Party will be dead.

We'll have a POTUS who got into the White House because she managed to avoid prison. Ponder that a while.

I think Donald Trump--assclown, and with all his flaws-- cares about America. He's one of the very few politicians in America about whom that can be said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/polit...t-colorado-delegates

Yes, Cruz is a smart guy. Certainly smart enough to understand what's going on. That doesn't really require much intellectual horsepower. But, he's certainly smart enough to use Romney, Graham, and GOPe et.al. right back.

The RNC does not write the rules for the 2016 convention, they only pick the committee chairman. It's actually 2 delegates from each state chosen by each state's party who draw up the rules days before the convention. If Trump did a good job of working and securing delegates, then he would have delegates on the Rules Committee and have influence over the rules. He hasn't so far, but Cruz has.

Cruz has paid attention to the arcane granular aspects of politics on the ground. He is wrangling the necessary delegates and made sure they are in the critical positions. This not only makes it tougher for Trump both going in and after the first ballot when delegates start to become unbound to him, it significantly diminishes the possibility the GOPe can hijack the convention. Among other things, the rules determine who can even appear on the ballot.

If you think Cruz is allowing himself to be used as a stooge, you have seriously underestimated him. He knows exactly what he is doing. Trump is finding that out the hard way.

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Yeah, all we can do is hope.

Not really. We could get a candidate to 1,237 because:

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I'm sure some games will be played,

So how about we focus on what's best for the country and do something that puts us in the strongest position possible.

That way we don't have to worry about whats, ifs, or waste a bunch of time hoping.

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So how about we focus on what's best for the country and do something that puts us in the strongest position possible.

That way we don't have to worry about whats, ifs, or waste a bunch of time hoping.

Well, that's up to Trump, isn't it? You keep talking about the will of the people, but you want to take the choice of Cruz away from the states who haven't voted and force Trump on them by default. I've said it before, but this isn't a race to see who is eliminated first mathematically it's to cross the finish line.

If I was a Trump supporter I'd be looking at that June meeting with anticipation. There is no reason they shouldn't be able to keep the 8 state rule and if they do Kasich's only play will to become VP. His delegates should give Trump enough to cross the line and if not get close enough that a handful of the 200 unbound "super" delegates will. We just have to let it play out.

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If you think Cruz is allowing himself to be used as a stooge, you have seriously underestimated him. He knows exactly what he is doing. Trump is finding that out the hard way.

Cruz is very smart. He's also very desperate. He is way behind Trump, with no real hope to secure the nomination. If Trump gets 1237, it's all over. So, first: Stop Trump from getting 1237. Even if he IS the stooge of the RNC. What choice does he have?

Let me answer that: He could think about what is best for the country, as a1abdj says. He might not like Trump... he might despise him, who knows?... but for sure he realizes that Trump is better than Hillary. As Para says-- and it is simple and absolutely true-- it's going to be Trump or Hillary. Take your pick.

^^^ I'll simply say I believe you are wrong.

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Well, that's up to Trump, isn't it? You keep talking about the will of the people,

I'm not talking about the will of the people. I'm talking about reality. The people are speaking, and you Cruz guys are ignoring them.

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but you want to take the choice of Cruz away from the states who haven't voted and force Trump on them by default.

Mmmmhmmm. That's exactly what I want.

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I've said it before, but this isn't a race to see who is eliminated first mathematically it's to cross the finish line.

Is the finish line the opportunity to represent the Republican party on the ticket, or to win the Presidency?

Because the people are speaking, and you're not listening. Fourth place. Against Hillary, he looses (at this point, absent a major change).

It took me 5 minutes to Google all of the past elections and see that fourth place contenders in the primaries are not being elected President. If Cruz is so smart, he should Google it himself.

Trump is behind too, but is well within striking distance. As it currently stands, he is close enough to stand a chance. Cruz isn't.

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^^^ I'll simply say I believe you are wrong.

Gut feelings are better than looking at the primary results.

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Originally posted by sdy:
http://www.politico.com/story/...ertrump-tweet-221766

Moments after announcing that Ted Cruz had swept all 34 delegate slots at the Colorado GOP convention Saturday, the state party tweeted: "We did it. #NeverTrump."

Within minutes, the tweet had been deleted.

Imagine that.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

It took me 5 minutes to Google all of the past elections and see that fourth place contenders in the primaries are not being elected President. If Cruz is so smart, he should Google it himself.

In how many of those elections were "fourth-place" contenders still running and in second place for their party's nomination 90 days out from the primary?

In how many of those elections was there a viable chance for no one to get the majority of the delegates 90 days before the convention?

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In how many of those elections were "fourth-place" contenders still running and in second place for their party's nomination 90 days out from the primary?

In how many of those elections was there a viable chance for no one to get the majority of the delegates 90 days before the convention?

Why don't you tell us? You seem to know the answer, but are posing the question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDiZ5HW2wqU
The Truth About The Colorado Delegate Controversy | Donald Trump vs. Ted Cruz
I don't know about you guys but I am really turn off by Cruz.

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Originally posted by jigray3:
^^^ I'll simply say I believe you are wrong.

I believe your are in the wrong spot go back to your Cruz area.