The Baio video is excellent. I don't know why you used that pull quote, Orguss, it is totally misleading.

2 new polls out today for Wisconsin.
One has Trump +10 and the other Cruz +5.
Very strange.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

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Originally posted by Ackks:

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Originally posted by HRK:
We don't have to wait on the convention, Cruz's team is already hard at work to upset the convention and circumvent voters will by going after delegates that should be committed to the winner of the primary in the state of AZ

http://www.washingtonexaminer....ates/article/2587556

Cruz supporters can stand high and mighty on any post they wish, and shout, "but those are the rules" then somehow try and label the RNC as unscrupulous if the RNC brokers the convention, which "are the rules"

Cruz will work back room deals and party favors for delegates to support him, and as such becomes exactly the same type of politician his supports dislike and he disowns.

Irony..

Well, what exactly is the problem with what Cruz is doing? He's being aggressive and he's fighting like crazy. He's clearly one of the top two and if Trump doesn't have the ground game or organizational strength to hold onto his delegates that should be on him for being weak.

The RNC would be throwing someone into the race that no one ever voted for, so it's different. Cruz isn't doing this just to beat Trump, he's gearing up to go toe to toe with the RNC as well. Instead of talking about how he's being mistreated Trump should put more time and money into doing what Cruz is doing. Cruz flew to North Dakota to fight for a handful of delegates while Trump decided to not show up. If he wants to win he is going to have to roll up his sleeves otherwise it's on him.

Cruz is doing the RNC job fr them by helping deliver a brokered convention

Don't you really think the GOPe wants him?

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Cruz is doing the RNC's job for them by helping deliver a brokered convention

Don't you really think the GOPe wants him?

This is what is difficult to understand about the come-lately support many Cruz supporters have for the convention route. Believing the RNC and convention delegates will swing in Cruz's favor, no matter what one thinks of Trump, seems folly as there is nearly zero evidence to suggest Cruz has the support of either the RNC or the so-called establishment, much less a nationwide popular vote. The odds are not favorable.

I'm inclined to agree that Cruz is essentially being used here. I stop just short of actual conspiracies, but I think the same end result is happening.

I hope I'm mistaken.

The GOPe and the RNC hate Cruz as much as they hate Trump. But they fear Trump more. If Cruz pushes this to a brokered convention to take down Trump, Cruz doesn't have a chance. It will be Ryan or Mittens.

And Hell to pay.

I agree. Don't rule out a rule change the week before the convention that would allow Kasich to be nominated.

Kasich repeating his earlier mantra:

"I believe that a convention will look at somebody like me, and that’s why I think I’m going to be the nominee,"

"It’s going to be so much fun. Kids will spend less time focusing on Bieber and Kardashian and more time focusing on how we elect presidents. It will be so cool."

so cool

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Originally posted by sdy:
I agree. Don't rule out a rule change the week before the convention that would allow Kasich to be nominated.

Kasich repeating his earlier mantra:

"I believe that a convention will look at somebody like me, and that’s why I think I’m going to be the nominee,"

Yep. Wait for it.

I like this guy. He gets it. Too bad he couldn't convince one single protestor. The protestors have zero argument against trump.



This fucker needs to go to whatever country that he respects the flag of. Don't like America, GTFO you racist fucker. I am so happy I wasn't in attendance wherever this is. I'd be behind bars.

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Yep. Wait for it.

You guys don't get it. The guy currently in 4th place is our best chance. He has to throw a wrench into the process because it's part of the rules, and he needs to do that to save us.

And if the RNC takes advantage of that situation, well then there'll be hell to pay. After they sink the ship.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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Yep. Wait for it.

You guys don't get it. The guy currently in 4th place is our best chance. He has to throw a wrench into the process because it's part of the rules, and he needs to do that to save us.

And if the RNC takes advantage of that situation, well then there'll be hell to pay. After they sink the ship.

Continuing with your flawed logic, you must vote for Hillary because she is #1 and has the most primary votes. Please find a valid argument.

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Originally posted by f2:
What Trump has wrought
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A MOST excellent article ! ! ! Thank you for posting that link

WHAT TRUMP HAS WROUGHT
Pat Buchanan: Candidate unleashed 'the mightiest force of the 21st century: nationalism'


As Wisconsinites head for the polls, our Beltway elites are almost giddy. For they foresee a Badger State bashing for Donald Trump, breaking his momentum toward the Republican nomination.

Should The Donald fall short of the delegates needed to win on the first ballot, 1,237, there is growing certitude that he will be stopped. First by Ted Cruz; then, perhaps, by someone acceptable to the establishment, which always likes to have two of its own in the race.

But this city of self-delusion should realize there is no going back for America. For, whatever his stumbles of the last two weeks, Trump has helped to unleash the mightiest force of the 21st century: nationalism.

Transnationalism and globalism are moribund.

First among the issues on which Trump has triumphed – “We will build the wall – and Mexico will pay for it!” – is border security.

Republican candidates who failed to parrot Trump on illegal immigration were among the first casualties.

For that is where America is, and that is where the West is.

Consider Europe. Four months ago, Angela Merkel was Time’s Person of the Year for throwing open the gates to the “huddled masses” of the Middle and Near East.

Merkel’s Germany is now leading the EU in amassing a huge bribe to the Turks to please take them back, and keep them away from the Greek islands that are now Islam’s Ellis Island into Europe.

Africa’s population will double to 2.5 billion by 2050. With 60 percent of Africans now under 25 years of age, millions will find their way to the Med to cross to the Old Continent where Europeans are aging, shrinking and dying. Look for gunboats in the Med.

If immigration is the first issue where Trump connected with the people, the second is trade.

Republicans are at last learning that trade deficits do matter, that free trade is not free. The cost comes in dead factories, lost jobs, dying towns and the rising rage of an abandoned Middle America whose country this is and whose wages have stagnated for decades.

Economists who swoon over figures on consumption forget what America’s 19th-century meteoric rise to self-sufficiency teaches, and what all four presidents on Mount Rushmore understood.

Production comes before consumption. Who owns the orchard is more essential than who eats the apples. We have exported the economic independence Hamilton taught was indispensable to our political independence. We have forgotten what made us great.

China, Japan, Germany – the second, third and fourth largest economies on earth – all owe their prosperity to trade surpluses run for decades at the expense of the Americans.

A third casualty of Trumpism is the post-Cold War foreign policy consensus among liberal interventionists and neoconservatives.

Trump subjects U.S. commitments to a cost-benefit analysis, as seen from the standpoint of cold national interest.

What do we get from continuing to carry the largest load of the defense of a rich Europe, against a Russia with one-fourth of Europe’s population?

How does Vladimir Putin, leader of a nation that in the last century lost its European and world empires and a third of its landmass, threaten us?

Why must we take the lead in confronting and containing Putin in Ukraine, Crimea and Georgia? No vital U.S. interest is imperiled there, and Russia’s ties there are older and deeper than ours to Puerto Rico.

Why is it the responsibility of the U.S. Pacific Fleet to defend the claims of Hanoi, Manila, Kuala Lumpur and Brunei, to rocks, reefs and islets in the South China Sea – against the claims of China?

American hawks talk of facing down Beijing in the South and East China Seas while U.S. companies import so much in Chinese-made goods they are fully subsidizing Beijing’s military budget.

Does this make sense?

Patriotism, preserving and protecting the unique character of our nation and people, economic nationalism, America First, staying out of other nation’s wars – these are as much the propellants of Trumpism as is the decline of the American working and middle class.

Trump’s presence in the race has produced the largest turnout ever in the primaries of either party. He has won the most votes, most delegates, most states. Wisconsin aside, he will likely come to Cleveland in that position.

If, through rules changes, subterfuge and faithless delegates, party elites swindle him out of the nomination, do they think that the millions who came out to vote for Trump will go home and say: We lost it fair and square?

Do they think they can then go back to open borders, amnesty, a path to citizenship, the Trans-Pacific Partnership and nation building?

Whatever happens to Trump, the country has spoken. And if the establishment refuses to heed its voice, and returns to the policies the people have repudiated, it should take heed of John F. Kennedy’s warning:

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.”

""By the way, this is a nomination for the Republican Party," Priebus told 620 WTMJ in Wisconsin. "If you don't like the party, then sit down. The party is choosing a nominee."

http://www.washingtonexaminer....inee/article/2587688

"If you don't like the party, then sit down."

The Republican Party is dead.

It's certainly dead to me.

^^^^^
Code for "the nomination goes to Kasich"! followed by his slobbering acceptance speech....

The arrogance of that statement by Priebus is... appalling. Disgusting.

"The party is choosing a nominee."

Translation: "You raggedy-assed peons clear a path and be quiet! Make way for The Party! All kneel!"

*procession of Karl Rove, Reince Priebus, George Will, David Brooks, Charles Krauthammer, Bill Kristol, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Bob Dole and GHW Bush carried on palanquins, all in black robes and wearing powdered wigs*

"All kneel! All kneel!"

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The arrogance of that statement by Priebus is... appalling. Disgusting.

He's just reminding us that it is NOT *our* party, we're just staff...

Time for an awakening, when there is no one to clean up after *your* party.

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Originally posted by justjoe:

The Republican Party is dead.

It's certainly dead to me.

Yup, dead to me too.

There's been lots of cannoli taken.

How much more are we gonna take of this Preibus asshole?

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Originally posted by maximus_flavius:
How much more are we gonna take of this Preibus asshole?

What is it you think we might do to him?

I might be satisfied if some old grandma took after his royal hiney with a switch. ^

Don't... swat... Mess... swat... Around... swat... With.... swat... The People... swat... swat...

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