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What a pleasant thought. ------------------------------ Knowing is half the battle! "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson | |||
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I am convinced that the news media is trying to influence the election, rather than just report on it. | |||
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Still finding my way |
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| Shit don't mean shit |
A few weeks/months ago I thought there would be some trick by the RNC to screw Trump or Cruz out of the nomination, but now I am not sure. I am wondering how the delegates get picked in states other than CO. In CO we elect delegates to the State, Congressional District and County Assembly at our Caucuses in March. I am going to all 3. At the Congressional Assembly is where we vote for who the National Delegates will be. Colorado has 37 delegates. 34 are elected at the CD Assemblies and 3 are appointed. There are a large number of people who are vying for the few spots to the National convention. Each person gets 30 seconds or something on stage to make their pitch. We will vote for them based on a few factors. The delegate I will be voting for will state WHO they are supporting. I point this out because I don't see HOW the RNC can bring in their own "anointed" individual, i.e. not Cruz or Trump. I can guarantee you that the person we send to the convention will NOT vote for this "anointed" person. They still need the votes and the votes are made up of individuals from each state. Maybe it's because I don't have my tin foil hat on today, but I just don't see how someone who has not been part of the primary process is going to get the 1237 votes from the delegates. Am I missing something? How are the National delegates chosen in your state? Hopefully this isn't a big thread drift. I can make my own topic if necessary. Here's a link to a story that tells how CO elects delegates. http://blogs.denverpost.com/th...p/125427/?source=rss | |||
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| Oh stewardess, I speak jive.  |
^ as I understand it, it's about influencing who the delegates are (by way of encouraging certain sorts and certain specific people to try to be a delegate, rather than some crooked process or puppeteers) and then persuading some of them to vote a certain way (whether approached by the party, a candidate, or otherwise). Typical lobbying, in a sense. it doesn't have to be overtly crooked or conspiratorial, it's more like the community organizing model, more like a subtle infiltration or twisted lobbying. I think the idea is that "they" are simply other delegates who are more aligned with the establishment or a certain candidate than not, perhaps covertly/silently until the votes come. "They" believe they're doing what's right, after all, "saving the country and party from nutjobs" in their minds. I think that's what people are getting at, at least. It's plausible enough, on the surface. It only requires the actors to be party loyalists who either favor the status quo or don't like a particular candidate to justify them entering into a protection mode - to them. | |||
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| Banned |
Throw him the fuck out. | |||
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Who elects the RNC Chairman? | |||
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Cursed be he who moves my bones! |
I've said exactly this before. It's the party picking its nominee, it's not "the will of the people" or whatever. If you think the R party is a democracy, you've been sadly mistaken. It's not. It's a political party. It'll end up doing what the party apparatchiks decide. As for a Trump third-party run, I think he'd actually relish that. If he's the nominee, he suddenly has to fund a real race with other people's money. And the MSM will shut him down cold. But if he's a third-party spoiler, man, they'll continue to heap all this media attention on him, and he can continue to "self-fund." That would be the dream scenario for him, I'm sure. I bet he'd love it. | |||
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Glorious SPAM! |
And if the RNC decids they don't need my support to select a nominee, as they can do, they obviously don't need my support in the general. And that will be the choice I make. | |||
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Lighten up and laugh |
I believe they are selected by the GOP committee members. This link supposedly has a list of the current members: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...e#Chairman_elections | |||
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| Freethinker |
So, what’s the weather like on the planet you came from? ► 6.4/93.6 “Most men … can seldom accept the simplest and most obvious truth if it … would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions … which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabrics of their lives.” — Leo Tolstoy | |||
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Unhyphenated American |
This post screams for a like button. __________________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always remember that others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself. Richard M Nixon It's nice to be important, it's more important to be nice. Billy Joe Shaver NRA Life Member | |||
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Priebus was just on Hannity and said it would be someone running. When pressed he said he believed it would be either Trump, Cruz, or Kasich. He also said it's ridiculous to think someone like Ryan would be able to steal it. | |||
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| Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
Ryan has repeatedly said, lately, that he doesn't want it, and he won't be it, and that in his opinion as well - it needs to (ambiguously) be "someone currently running". Is Kasich their backup plan? We'll find out soon enough. | |||
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If Kasich is "their boy", I'll REALLY have to hold my nose to pull the lever for that jack-wagon. "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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| Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
The theory is that he's just milquetoast / harmless / lukewarm enough to get by... | |||
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delicately calloused |
I still vote for him over HiLIARy, but I'd have to bleach my brain afterward. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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| Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
That's the corner we've been painted into, of course, and they surely know it. The threat of Hillary, and the unlikely odds of a full on party revolt / abandonment, and the lack of any real / immediate / tangible repercussions is what emboldens the RNC. Once tarring and feathering was no longer acceptable, the "threat" is fairly toothless. | |||
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Essayons |
[SARCASM] This is the way to unify the party: [/SARCASM]
This isn't the stuff of presidential leadership. Rather, it's a childish temper tantrum. It feels like the two things are happening: -- The establishment GOP is closing ranks behind Cruz -- The Trump campaign implosion has begun. Thanks, Sap | |||
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Given the combined success of Trump and Cruz in the Republican primary season, it is hard to imagine the current state of things as anything less than a full revolt. BTW, I found the GOPe governing committee addressing the base:  This space intentionally left blank. | |||
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