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Originally posted by EmpireState:

And you've missed my point, which is that it shouldn't matter.

I didn't miss that at all. I acknowledged that point by saying "Perhaps that is unfair and shouldn't be relevant to a political campaign. It isn't relevant in many other parts of the world." Hell, I even agree with your point.

All I was was saying is that, whether right or wrong, it does matter because it does matter to some voters.

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Originally posted by HRK:


Every divorced person in America just related....

Every woman who has been dumped for a younger model, and every woman who worries about that happening just crossed his name off the list to vote for. That's just about all of them.

Maybe he has them rich and happy, unwilling to rock any boats.

I don't know anything about his ex wives, but have observed certain behaviors in human behavior.

There is a risk.

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by HRK:


Every divorced person in America just related....

Every woman who has been dumped for a younger model, and every woman who worries about that happening just crossed his name off the list to vote for. That's just about all of them.

Maybe he has them rich and happy, unwilling to rock any boats.

I don't know anything about his ex wives, but have observed certain behaviors in human behavior.

There is a risk.

Just so I'm clear, are we saying this matters to the minority of the voting public who are conservatives? Or does this matter to the progressive majority who support things like 50% divorce rates, Planned Parenthood, gender ambiguity and other progressive lifestyles? Both equally?

(Monday Night)

Megyn Kelly: Mr. Trump, I hold in my hand a list of some 40 women - various ex-wives of yours, Trump employees, high-priced escorts, strippers, party girls, etc. Many of them claim you pressured or even paid them for sex. Some say you snorted cocaine off their asses and lapped champagne puddled between their boobies. How do you respond to that?
The Donald: You better believe I did! Look Megyn; it's called being a rich motherfucker and getting, some, ass! OK? I took advantage of the system, and that's what I'll do for America. We'll all be getting high-priced ass when I'm president. Besides, all of those women were sluts and pathetic losers, just like you.

(Tuesday Night)
Megyn Kelly: BREAKING TONIGHT: DONALD TRUMP AGAIN SURGES IN THE POLLS!

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Originally posted by TXJIM:
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Indeed !

Thank you for the big LOL ! ! !

MK hasnt figured it out yet, but she is in waaaaay over her head

there is probably a good reason why she is a 'former attorney'

and I'm also pretty confident that The Donald doesn't give a rats ass about any apology from her as she just isn't that important

^ right... because as unsettling (or even gauche) such a statement from him would be seen as by many, it pales in comparison to the overall dismal opinion most have of all things D.C. and of politicians in general (often so because they are essentially Trumps too, they just sugar coat it or lie about it). that's the rub, that our government and those who run it have become so much of a joke and so generally despised that they actually make The Donald seem reasonable.

the Establishment, on both sides, all but asked for this circus, demanded it even.


jackasses, almost every damn one of them.

I tuned into Fox News yesterday afternoon and there was a noticeable difference in the tone towards Trump, compared to before the debate. Every last talking head who mentioned Trump seemed to be choosing their words more carefully and- what's this- making an effort to be objective?

It ain't hard to figure out. Really, it's not. How's that foot in your ass feelin', Fox News? Well, smile and say you like it, jerks. That's what you're going to have to do as long as the Trump Train keeps bringin' da pain.

I don't think Trump has anything to worry about with his ex wives. I believe they are all pretty friendly with one another. You may even hear from a kid or two that you never knew he had that also happen to like him.

Remember this? Don't think a former "Well paid off" wife will make waves. Unless she wishes to be very poor.

Ivana Trump: Donald didn’t rape me — and he’d be a great president

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Originally posted by konata88:

Just so I'm clear, are we saying this matters to the minority of the voting public who are conservatives? Or does this matter to the progressive majority who support things like 50% divorce rates, Planned Parenthood, gender ambiguity and other progressive lifestyles? Both equally?

Are you being deliberately blind? Or is it clumsy sarcasm? If you like The Donald, of course none of that matters to you. And even social progressives or liberals will still sympathize with a dumped spouse, especially when the dumping spouse then moves on to a younger and blonder woman. I think you have acknowledge that Trump can be a hard guy to like. He is abrasive.

And while we don't agree, many women in the U.S. do think the GOP is hostile to women's concerns. Those women are valuable voters, and no Republican can win without them. I don't mean you have to sell your soul to get their vote, but we can't pretend that sentiment doesn't exist.

If we are blind to the concerns that some moderate voters have (whether or not we agree with them), and nominate someone that they will not vote for, leaving only the hard core of the GOP base to vote for the GOP candidate, we will lose the presidential election. And could lose the Congress. I know many here claim they'd rather burn down the house than compromise, but I'd rather give a little and win.

(Rusbro, that is funny.)

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by HRK:


Every divorced person in America just related....

Every woman who has been dumped for a younger model, and every woman who worries about that happening just crossed his name off the list to vote for. That's just about all of them.

Maybe he has them rich and happy, unwilling to rock any boats.

I don't know anything about his ex wives, but have observed certain behaviors in human behavior.

There is a risk.

Minuscule IMHO risk if best, Trump doesn't give a shit about that and the press taking that attack mode against him, Trump isn't Herman Cain, he won't turn and run from the fight and his supports love him for it, the tactic isn't effective with Trump.

As Para said, he's pushed the press back on their collective asses, who wants to be the next national pariah by lambasting the man on personal issues that are not germane to the job hes applying for, heck the D women and men won't care, the only ones that do are the Extreme Right church my candidate can only be Huckabee people.

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Originally posted by rusbro:
We'll all be getting high-priced ass when I'm president.

I guess that will be Trump's New Deal, his version of "a car in every garage, and two chickens in every pot," so to speak.

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If we are blind to the concerns that some moderate voters have (whether or not we agree with them), and nominate someone that they will not vote for, leaving only the hard core of the GOP base to vote for the GOP candidate, we will lose the presidential election. And could lose the Congress. I know many here claim they'd rather burn down the house than compromise, but I'd rather give a little and win.

McCain? Romney? Jeb?
Go (moderate) team!

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Originally posted by konata88:

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by HRK:


Every divorced person in America just related....

Every woman who has been dumped for a younger model, and every woman who worries about that happening just crossed his name off the list to vote for. That's just about all of them.

Maybe he has them rich and happy, unwilling to rock any boats.

I don't know anything about his ex wives, but have observed certain behaviors in human behavior.

There is a risk.

Just so I'm clear, are we saying this matters to the minority of the voting public who are conservatives? Or does this matter to the progressive majority who support things like 50% divorce rates, Planned Parenthood, gender ambiguity and other progressive lifestyles? Both equally?

Doesn't that wind up depending on what kinds of stories the ex-wives tell on-camera? An ex-wife is one thing. An ex-wife's reason for being an ex-wife is another. The way a news channel reports the ex-wife's reason for being an ex-wife is a third and entirely different thing. Each of those things has the potential to be anything from a PITA to a campaign killer.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Doesn't that wind up depending on what kinds of stories the ex-wives tell on-camera? An ex-wife is one thing. An ex-wife's reason for being an ex-wife is another. The way a news channel reports the ex-wife's reason for being an ex-wife is a third and entirely different thing. Each of those things has the potential to be anything from a PITA to a campaign killer.

Personally, I would hope that this type of stuff does matter. I think it speaks to character. However, I'm not sure this is an issue for large segments of the voting public in large metro areas like NYC, LA, SF, Miami. This may be an issue for conservative voters but probably not for the younger, more progressive voters even if they did consider a republican candidate. I think a smoker would be more unappealing. Womanizer = par for the course; what's his position on other things. Smoker = yuck.

But don't mind me --- I'm only following this superficially. I don't have anything intelligent to contribute here, just wondering out loud.

Ah, but women are everywhere, and how a guy treats the women in his life could easily matter to any one of them regardless of where they are.

Put it this way: Hillary's essentially become the first ex-wife of every guy in the country because of the way she speaks, acts and thinks. Donald is showing the potential to be the first ex-husband of every woman in the country in precisely the same way. No politician in his or her right mind ever wants to occupy that space in the public's consciousness regardless of the politician's politics because it gains them nothing and it's a clinical major pain the ass when you're trying to win an election.

I just don't see his ex-wives being any problem. Everybody has an ex-wife nowadays. BFD.

I'm it saying the media won't lie ormdistort facts about Trump. But face it, if you support Trump, you don't support the media or believe their bullshit. The more Trump "keeps it real", the higher his numbers go.

The majority of people nowadays don't believe the fuckin media. Those that are easily swayed by the media are Democrats anyway.

I dont know what's gonna bring Trump down, but it ain't gonna be ex-wives or fabricated media stories.

Those of y'all here that don't see any problem with Ms Kelly's questions about the War on Women are being naive. If you don't like Trump, fine. But how can anyone say that the question is relevant in any way.

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Originally posted by konata88:

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by HRK:


Every divorced person in America just related....

Every woman who has been dumped for a younger model, and every woman who worries about that happening just crossed his name off the list to vote for. That's just about all of them.

Maybe he has them rich and happy, unwilling to rock any boats.

I don't know anything about his ex wives, but have observed certain behaviors in human behavior.

There is a risk.

Just so I'm clear, are we saying this matters to the minority of the voting public who are conservatives? Or does this matter to the progressive majority who support things like 50% divorce rates, Planned Parenthood, gender ambiguity and other progressive lifestyles? Both equally?

Just so you can be clear,

1. His ex-wives may be happy as clams, not have a bad thing to say about him.
2. His ex-wives may have some incentive to say some things that have been traditionally hurtful to someone running for office, or have said such things in the past.
3. If there are some negatives, it might not matter to many, but Presidential elections are often close things where a few votes in a few states can be the difference between winning and losing. It wasn't that long ago that a divorced man would gave no chance whatever to be elected to anything.
4. I believe Reagan was the first President to have been divorced. As best I can recall, his ex-wife was a non-factor. There was nothing to cause concern, except among those who felt divorce was a big no-no.

To me, it is a risk. I don't know enough to be able to evaluate it, but whatever is out there is almost certain to be uncovered.

Capishe?