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....No leader, especially a religious leader, should have the right to question another man’s religion or faith....


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Didn't see Trump questioning Cruz's religion or faith in that snippet, unless I'm dumber than a rock. Confused


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I can't watch the video, but I'm guessing Southflorida-law is referring to how can Ted Cruz be an evangelical when he lies so much?
 
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I can't watch the video, but I'm guessing Southflorida-law is referring to how can Ted Cruz be an evangelical when he lies so much?

No, it was Trump's comment that "not a lot of evangelicals come out of Cuba."

Trump is, of course, absolutely correct about that.



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Yeah, it's a cheap shot at his dad, but it is true.

I looked it up and the exact quote was, "How can Ted Cruz be an evangelical Christian when he lies so much and is so dishonest?"

The Pope shouldn't have questioned his faith and Trump shouldn't be doing it to Cruz. Religious leaders should stay out of politics. All it is doing is making Christians as a whole look bad. The left has to be loving this because not only is this election ripping conservatives apart, but now it's weakening Christianity.
 
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Trump's tax plan is this: ... He is also a protectionist and wants to "discourage" overseas inversions. He doesn't say how, but typically that means tariffs on imported goods and breaks on domestic goods. Instead of letting the market drive the solution.


The market is driving the solution as we speak; corporations are moving operations overseas to stay viable. It will take more then reducing the corporate tax rate to promote industry. The disparity in currency, reduction in the costs of labor, raw materials, and environmental compliance far out way the taxation. In fact, a 10% flat corporate tax would do nothing to spark our economy when company's like: "CBS, General Electric, Interpublic Group, JetBlue Airways, Mattel, Owens Corning, PG&E, Pepco Holdings, Priceline.com, Prudential Financial, Qualcomm, Ryder System, Time Warner, Weyerhaeuser and Xerox paid no federal income tax on $23 billion in profits in 2014, and paid almost no federal income tax on $107 billion in profits during the past five years."

tax structure and artificially inflated wages are driving companies to look overseas for production. that is not the market, that is the government.



I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log.
 
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Yeah, it's a cheap shot at his dad, but it is true.

I looked it up and the exact quote was, "How can Ted Cruz be an evangelical Christian when he lies so much and is so dishonest?"



First, Trump lies about the lies he's told. Second, any follower of Jesus (Christian is a very loose term these days) accepts the fact that we are sinful in nature which is the exact reason we need Jesus to mediate on our behalf. That means that Christians sin just like everyone else. We are not perfect and should never claim to be.


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Originally posted by YellowJacket:
Trump's tax plan is this: ... He is also a protectionist and wants to "discourage" overseas inversions. He doesn't say how, but typically that means tariffs on imported goods and breaks on domestic goods. Instead of letting the market drive the solution.


The market is driving the solution as we speak; corporations are moving operations overseas to stay viable. It will take more then reducing the corporate tax rate to promote industry. The disparity in currency, reduction in the costs of labor, raw materials, and environmental compliance far out way the taxation. In fact, a 10% flat corporate tax would do nothing to spark our economy when company's like: "CBS, General Electric, Interpublic Group, JetBlue Airways, Mattel, Owens Corning, PG&E, Pepco Holdings, Priceline.com, Prudential Financial, Qualcomm, Ryder System, Time Warner, Weyerhaeuser and Xerox paid no federal income tax on $23 billion in profits in 2014, and paid almost no federal income tax on $107 billion in profits during the past five years."

tax structure and artificially inflated wages are driving companies to look overseas for production. that is not the market, that is the government.


Oh wow. Ding ding ding we have a winner now sit back and think about all this again from the beginning.


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OK, we've now explored the religion angle, and we're moving on.
 
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Originally posted by YellowJacket:
Trump's tax plan is this: ... He is also a protectionist and wants to "discourage" overseas inversions. He doesn't say how, but typically that means tariffs on imported goods and breaks on domestic goods. Instead of letting the market drive the solution.


The market is driving the solution as we speak; corporations are moving operations overseas to stay viable. It will take more then reducing the corporate tax rate to promote industry. The disparity in currency, reduction in the costs of labor, raw materials, and environmental compliance far out way the taxation. In fact, a 10% flat corporate tax would do nothing to spark our economy when company's like: "CBS, General Electric, Interpublic Group, JetBlue Airways, Mattel, Owens Corning, PG&E, Pepco Holdings, Priceline.com, Prudential Financial, Qualcomm, Ryder System, Time Warner, Weyerhaeuser and Xerox paid no federal income tax on $23 billion in profits in 2014, and paid almost no federal income tax on $107 billion in profits during the past five years."

tax structure and artificially inflated wages are driving companies to look overseas for production. that is not the market, that is the government.


Are you saying that American workers should be paid less? Trump and possibly Kasich are the only candidates who have a clue how to grow the economy and balance the budget.
 
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Originally posted by stormwalker:
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Originally posted by YellowJacket:
Trump's tax plan is this: ... He is also a protectionist and wants to "discourage" overseas inversions. He doesn't say how, but typically that means tariffs on imported goods and breaks on domestic goods. Instead of letting the market drive the solution.


The market is driving the solution as we speak; corporations are moving operations overseas to stay viable. It will take more then reducing the corporate tax rate to promote industry. The disparity in currency, reduction in the costs of labor, raw materials, and environmental compliance far out way the taxation. In fact, a 10% flat corporate tax would do nothing to spark our economy when company's like: "CBS, General Electric, Interpublic Group, JetBlue Airways, Mattel, Owens Corning, PG&E, Pepco Holdings, Priceline.com, Prudential Financial, Qualcomm, Ryder System, Time Warner, Weyerhaeuser and Xerox paid no federal income tax on $23 billion in profits in 2014, and paid almost no federal income tax on $107 billion in profits during the past five years."

tax structure and artificially inflated wages are driving companies to look overseas for production. that is not the market, that is the government.


Are you saying that American workers should be paid less? Trump and possibly Kasich are the only candidates who have a clue how to grow the economy and balance the budget.

Depends on how much you want to pay for the goods. I am fine with letting the market set prices. If wages go up naturally, that's fine with me.

Do you think McDonalds workers should make upwards of $10 an hour?



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Originally posted by YellowJacket:
Trump's tax plan is this: ... He is also a protectionist and wants to "discourage" overseas inversions. He doesn't say how, but typically that means tariffs on imported goods and breaks on domestic goods. Instead of letting the market drive the solution.


The market is driving the solution as we speak; corporations are moving operations overseas to stay viable. It will take more then reducing the corporate tax rate to promote industry. The disparity in currency, reduction in the costs of labor, raw materials, and environmental compliance far out way the taxation. In fact, a 10% flat corporate tax would do nothing to spark our economy when company's like: "CBS, General Electric, Interpublic Group, JetBlue Airways, Mattel, Owens Corning, PG&E, Pepco Holdings, Priceline.com, Prudential Financial, Qualcomm, Ryder System, Time Warner, Weyerhaeuser and Xerox paid no federal income tax on $23 billion in profits in 2014, and paid almost no federal income tax on $107 billion in profits during the past five years."

tax structure and artificially inflated wages are driving companies to look overseas for production. that is not the market, that is the government.




Are you saying that American workers should be paid less? Trump and possibly Kasich are the only candidates who have a clue how to grow the economy and balance the budget.

Depends on how much you want to pay for the goods. I am fine with letting the market set prices. If wages go up naturally, that's fine with me.

Do you think McDonalds workers should make upwards of $10 an hour?


I'm for the American market setting the prices, not the Chinese, Mexican, or any other foreign market! Trump is spot on with levying import taxes and negotiating trade deals to eliminate free international trade which bends America over the barrel. Once the economy is up and running, the surplus of jobs will drive up wages. Government mandated minimum wage will be obsolete.
 
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Okay, I have to admit, this is funny.

ReasonsToVoteTrump.com

Thought I would end the week with a chuckle.




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Now Trump is calling for a boycott of Apple. Also he uses an iPhone. :roll eyes:
Donald Trump: We Should Boycott Apple

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GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump called for a boycott of Apple products on Friday at a campaign rally in South Carolina. Trump justified the boycott over Apple's refusal to unlock an encrypted iPhone that was used by San Bernardino terrorist Syed Rizwan Farook.

Despite the call for a boycott, Trump, or someone in charge of his Twitter account, continued to use an iPhone to send out tweets.

Personally, I don't think a boycott is necessary as the situation is an extremely sticky one with valid arguments for both sides. (Which I outlined in my piece on Wednesday.) Apple has a right to be wary of an order to build a backdoor into its products.



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Originally posted by YellowJacket:
Trump's tax plan is this: ... He is also a protectionist and wants to "discourage" overseas inversions. He doesn't say how, but typically that means tariffs on imported goods and breaks on domestic goods. Instead of letting the market drive the solution.


The market is driving the solution as we speak; corporations are moving operations overseas to stay viable. It will take more then reducing the corporate tax rate to promote industry. The disparity in currency, reduction in the costs of labor, raw materials, and environmental compliance far out way the taxation. In fact, a 10% flat corporate tax would do nothing to spark our economy when company's like: "CBS, General Electric, Interpublic Group, JetBlue Airways, Mattel, Owens Corning, PG&E, Pepco Holdings, Priceline.com, Prudential Financial, Qualcomm, Ryder System, Time Warner, Weyerhaeuser and Xerox paid no federal income tax on $23 billion in profits in 2014, and paid almost no federal income tax on $107 billion in profits during the past five years."

tax structure and artificially inflated wages are driving companies to look overseas for production. that is not the market, that is the government.




Are you saying that American workers should be paid less? Trump and possibly Kasich are the only candidates who have a clue how to grow the economy and balance the budget.

Depends on how much you want to pay for the goods. I am fine with letting the market set prices. If wages go up naturally, that's fine with me.

Do you think McDonalds workers should make upwards of $10 an hour?


I'm for the American market setting the prices, not the Chinese, Mexican, or any other foreign market! Trump is spot on with levying import taxes and negotiating trade deals to eliminate free international trade which bends America over the barrel. Once the economy is up and running, the surplus of jobs will drive up wages. Government mandated minimum wage will be obsolete.


Well then I disagree with you and Trump.

Imposing tariffs on Chinese goods is more likely to do harm than good. That is like raising a poker hand while holding crap cards. China has the advantage in labor so we must do something to level the playing field. But if we impose a tariff then the price of goods goes way up. That is the best case scenario. On top of that, China is likely to also place a tariff on American imports, effectively negating the good effects of our tariff.

Worst case scenario is China responds by closing its doors to American imports effectively crushing American export jobs while also raising cost of goods here.

The better plan, imo, which is what Cruz wants to do, is remove taxes on outgoing goods from the US. That means the cost of American goods abroad will go down, making us competitive again. It will also avoid an economic confrontation with China.



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What specific domestic goods and/or services would actually be competitive with Chinese goods simply by lowering the taxes on exported American goods?

Specifically...?

Because I have a hard time believing it.

While taxes are high, too high, they don't offset the significant wage differential.

Please explain, with specifics.
 
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Originally posted by stormwalker:
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Originally posted by YellowJacket:
Trump's tax plan is this: ... He is also a protectionist and wants to "discourage" overseas inversions. He doesn't say how, but typically that means tariffs on imported goods and breaks on domestic goods. Instead of letting the market drive the solution.


The market is driving the solution as we speak; corporations are moving operations overseas to stay viable. It will take more then reducing the corporate tax rate to promote industry. The disparity in currency, reduction in the costs of labor, raw materials, and environmental compliance far out way the taxation. In fact, a 10% flat corporate tax would do nothing to spark our economy when company's like: "CBS, General Electric, Interpublic Group, JetBlue Airways, Mattel, Owens Corning, PG&E, Pepco Holdings, Priceline.com, Prudential Financial, Qualcomm, Ryder System, Time Warner, Weyerhaeuser and Xerox paid no federal income tax on $23 billion in profits in 2014, and paid almost no federal income tax on $107 billion in profits during the past five years."

tax structure and artificially inflated wages are driving companies to look overseas for production. that is not the market, that is the government.




Are you saying that American workers should be paid less? Trump and possibly Kasich are the only candidates who have a clue how to grow the economy and balance the budget.

Depends on how much you want to pay for the goods. I am fine with letting the market set prices. If wages go up naturally, that's fine with me.

Do you think McDonalds workers should make upwards of $10 an hour?


I'm for the American market setting the prices, not the Chinese, Mexican, or any other foreign market! Trump is spot on with levying import taxes and negotiating trade deals to eliminate free international trade which bends America over the barrel. Once the economy is up and running, the surplus of jobs will drive up wages. Government mandated minimum wage will be obsolete.


Well then I disagree with you and Trump.

Imposing tariffs on Chinese goods is more likely to do harm than good. That is like raising a poker hand while holding crap cards. China has the advantage in labor so we must do something to level the playing field. But if we impose a tariff then the price of goods goes way up. That is the best case scenario. On top of that, China is likely to also place a tariff on American imports, effectively negating the good effects of our tariff.

Worst case scenario is China responds by closing its doors to American imports effectively crushing American export jobs while also raising cost of goods here.

The better plan, imo, which is what Cruz wants to do, is remove taxes on outgoing goods from the US. That means the cost of American goods abroad will go down, making us competitive again. It will also avoid an economic confrontation with China.


That would only hold true if we were on the winning side of the trade deficit which we are not(-531.5 billion) last year alone. China exports mountains of cheap crap that ends up in our land fills. Ten Chinese products are usually out lasted by one made in the good old USA. You do the math. When we pay more for American made products, our wages rise in accordance to the premium paid for its manufacture.
 
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Do you guys really need to quote every layer of the previous parts of the conversation?
 
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Do you guys really need to quote every layer of the previous parts of the conversation?


Yeah, like I'm going to read EVERY nested paragraph in that. . .



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Tariffs on chinese goods? We need to make our goods more competitive not their goods less competetive. Stupid is talking too much.

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When we pay more for American made products

We limit our ability to export and make money. We can't rely on the domestic market to buy all of our overpriced output.

Maybe enact something like the Smoot-Hawley Tariff.
"The great majority of economists then and ever since view the Act, and the ensuing retaliatory tariffs by America's trading partners, as responsible for reducing American exports and imports by more than half"

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The Smoot-Hawley Tariff was one of the causes of The Great Depression


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Now Trump is calling for a boycott of Apple. Also he uses an iPhone. :roll eyes:
Donald Trump: We Should Boycott Apple

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GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump called for a boycott of Apple products on Friday at a campaign rally in South Carolina. Trump justified the boycott over Apple's refusal to unlock an encrypted iPhone that was used by San Bernardino terrorist Syed Rizwan Farook.

Despite the call for a boycott, Trump, or someone in charge of his Twitter account, continued to use an iPhone to send out tweets.

Personally, I don't think a boycott is necessary as the situation is an extremely sticky one with valid arguments for both sides. (Which I outlined in my piece on Wednesday.) Apple has a right to be wary of an order to build a backdoor into its products.

Tell me gentlemen, do we really want the loose cannon we call Trump, advocating we boycott a company because it philosophically disagrees with a government judge's order? Which is arguably an unconstitutional order at that...

I understand his appeal, that he'll shake up DC. Trouble is, you don't know what he stands for or what he'll do. Think very carefully before you commit to Trump, he's not the conservative you think he is or that he claims. He rides the political winds. Today it's Apple, tomorrow it could be Colt or Sig in his "cross hairs."
 
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