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Then tell his and his handlers to stop trading on his past, greatly diminishing it and him in many of our eyes. Listening to him speak, I'm not sure 'he' has any clue what he's talking about any more. He's served way beyond his expiration date, not unlike many others in Washington, and he needs to retire, content in the knowledge that all of us will be paying for his retirement for however long he continues to live. Although this is completely irrelevant, I'll answer it. I'm the only one in my family that didn't serve in the military. However, being raised by a father, grandfather, and uncle who all served for many years in the Navy and Air Force, I am very familiar with military life and concepts. And my father, who retired after 20+ years in the Navy holds Mr. McCain in rather low regard as well given his behavior. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Only if you've never served. For those of us that have...not so much.
Thats kind of like saying you've ridden in cars all your life so you know just what its like to drive one in a heavy rain storm. "Blessed is he who when facing his own demise, thinks only of his front sight.” Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem Montani Semper Liberi | |||
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Yep. There are many video clips of McCain insulting and chiding voters asking him tough questions at townhall events. I can give two shits about his war record, because like that old saying goes, what he is now is what counts, baby. He is an asshole. A horrible leader, a shitty politician with no honor in his political life. He is the Republican version of Pete Stark. And to think he was the only real choice over Barry in 2008. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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I mean no insult or diminution. It may seem irrelevant, but had you had that experience yourself, you would look at it a bit differently. That your dad holds him in low regard "given his behavior" must refer to his politics, not his years of military service. Ordinarily, the brotherhood, and sisterhood these days, of veterans does not show disrespect for the honorable service of another, no matter how undistinguished. We are thanked for our service, whether it was peeling potatoes in Texas or blowing up jihadists or sitting in an office in the Pentagon. When I was serving, the level of disrespect was palpable, but that's all changed now, properly so. You can lambast him all you want for his politics. When you go after his service, you demean yourself, and cause some to question your soundness. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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It Is apparent that McCain is off limits from any criticism because he was a POW. How convenient for him. | |||
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You have missed the point entirely. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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McCain was a fine solder and served honorably now, not so much his reputation is shot, his ethics and morals are questionable and his commitment to the country has taken a backseat to a lifetime pension and free healthcare he doesn't care about us - he doesn't have to he will tell you anything to get you to vote for him - he's no better than a roach-crusher actually, a roach-crusher has more class that McCain Swain wrote - No. Trump is not a pilot. And neither are you. And neither of you served in the military. Hate to disagree with you but you're wrong on both parts. I've been a pilot for almost 40 years - having gotten my license when I was 16. I was also a reservist but not active duty. And in case you're really curious, not only was most of my family military, my uncle achieved the rank of Rear Admiral. I had an appointment to BOTH military academies in Canada - Kingston and Royal Rhodes. A [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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When Trump said, “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured,” he not only insulted McCain, which several in this thread are OK with, but he also disparaged the other American servicemen that were captured and endured or died as a POW. He shot himself in his other bad foot yesterday. | |||
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For decades, John "Reach Across" McCain has been the Democrats' best friend. If you like what Obama has done to America, thank John McCain. McCain has been there every step of the way supporting and enabling Barack, right from when McCain was the Republican candidate and said, "You have nothing to fear from a President Obama." As far as I'm concerned, Trump can say any damn thing he wants to about that POS.This message has been edited. Last edited by: justjoe, ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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I for one applaud that distinction. Cheers for what he did as related to service/POW. And perhaps he was due a term or 2 as Senator given the hell he survived. I'd be willing to bet given 'non-POW status' even as a veteran, his political stance would not be adequate to secure campaign victory. Beyond that, his politics of the last 20 years has become increasingly more similar to the DNCers. re: Trump's classic blunder and "He was a war hero because he was captured. " IMHO McCain was/IS a hero because of his survival and conduct as relating to that POW situation. He was/IS a hero due to his service to his fellow servicemen during that era. He was/IS a hero because of his stance of being relatively intact mentally for so long post-release. His political actions of late, not so much. | |||
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FWIW it was Royal Roads while it was in operation. Calgary Shooting Centre | |||
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I agree, it's an interesting tape. But I'm sure that McCain supporters would dispute the claims, and it then all degenerates into a kind of he said she said. So-- I really don't care about all that. That he has been for decades a Democrat stooge and is now an Obama ass licker is plain to see. No speculation or conjecture. McCain has done immense harm to this country. I'm glad Trump is tearing into him. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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yeah, fat finger typo on my part [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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Hillary Clinton said the Republicans would tear each other apart,and she was right. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Yup, you're correct. So far, Republicans as their own worst enemy and democrats are loving this side show with Trump. Please open the barn door to let horses out.. | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
Last fall, I still lived in Alaska and Alaska's Demonrat held senate seat was one of the key US senate races. There were 3 serious contenders in the Republican primary. The guy who finished 3rd had polled 3rd for as long as I remember. Instead of running a clean 3rd place campaign he decided to get nasty (TV ads and in debates) with the guy who ultimately won the primary. The day after the primary, the Demonrat was running ads with the exact talking points as the sour grapes 3rd place guy. Ultimately, the Republican beat the Demonrat but it was closer than it should've been. I see nastier Republican primaries than Demonrat primaries, and it provides a lot of ammo against the Republican in The November election. I have a lot of respect for Ted Cruz being the exception to this norm. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/...ls-debates/30389993/ | |||
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No, the Republican Establishment are all unified against Trump. They are not tearing up each other, they are tearing up Trump, and to an extent, Cruz. The ones whining and crying are behind in the polls and ALL support giving slack to illegal Mexicans. They are all politically correct leftist morons when it comes to illegal immigration. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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I REPEAT: "Hillary Clinton said the Republicans would tear each other apart,and she was right." WE ARE EVEN DOING IT ON THIS CONSERVATIVE BOARD. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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