Get Kamala in there PDQ!!

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Originally posted by parabellum:

OMG

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Originally posted by arabiancow
Trump is the man in the Arena, you and I are not. It wasn't his best performance but I don't think his performance cost him any votes whereas Biden's performance will have certainly cost him votes.

So other than losing some style points, I'd say he did very well. and he is under a tremendous amount of pressure

I agree. It likely didn't cost Trump votes. But my point is that I think he missed some great opportunities to gain votes.

Good entertainment

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Originally posted by mojojojo:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by arabiancow
Trump is the man in the Arena, you and I are not. It wasn't his best performance but I don't think his performance cost him any votes whereas Biden's performance will have certainly cost him votes.

So other than losing some style points, I'd say he did very well. and he is under a tremendous amount of pressure[/QUOTe)

I agree. It likely didn't cost Trump votes. But my point is that I think he missed some great opportunities to gain votes.

With whom? Who do you think hasn't made up their mind at this point in the game?

If everyone's made up their minds already, then why debate at all?

I thought Trump did pretty well. He was quite measured, and the times he got a little hot, he was able to slowly bring his temperature right back down and continue on. That's what he needed to do tonight. I think that was the goal. To remain mostly cool. I think the debate helped him.

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Originally posted by Largefarva:
Wow even on cnn they are admitting that this debate went horribly for the democrats. They aren’t saying anything good about Trump but they are admitting that Biden is an embarrassment. This is certainly eye opening…they aren’t sugar coating anything.

I watched that also. It was pretty much ALL of the commentators saying "Democrats can't win unless they replace Joe!" A few tried to stumble around and knock Trump's performance, but it was all knives out for poor old Joe.

Time to get rid of Whitey, right, "Joy"?

Yeah, you're so fucking important, aren't you. You were on the phone with Obama, "world people" whatever the fuck that means, yadda yadda. Fuck you.

https://x.com/DogRightGirl/status/1806523463110164559

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Originally posted by SIG228:

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Originally posted by mojojojo:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by arabiancow
Trump is the man in the Arena, you and I are not. It wasn't his best performance but I don't think his performance cost him any votes whereas Biden's performance will have certainly cost him votes.

So other than losing some style points, I'd say he did very well. and he is under a tremendous amount of pressure[/QUOTe)

I agree. It likely didn't cost Trump votes. But my point is that I think he missed some great opportunities to gain votes.

With whom? Who do you think hasn't made up their mind at this point in the game?

Apparently, about 20% of voters still haven't made up their minds yet.

Jill and the handlers have no shame and they are responsible for seeing Biden's denigration.

So now, the Dems have to make a decision but they can't remove him unilaterally and Joe is too full of himself to agree. This is his reward for 50 years of Dem party loyalty, much like Bob Dole's run for the WH.

So assuming Joe agrees to step down, who's next up? It's Kamala and she polls worse than Biden.

If you want to really place blame for tonight, it falls on Joe and his team in offering to debate Trump and with the rules they proposed. I suspect they expected Trump to decline the terms but he said he'd meet them. Based on tonight's disaster, I doubt there will be a second debate.

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Originally posted by Southern Rebel:


I watched that also. It was pretty much ALL of the commentators saying "Democrats can't win unless they replace Joe!" A few tried to stumble around and knock Trump's performance, but it was all knives out for poor old Joe.

The only way they replace Joe at this point is if he steps down. I just don't see him doing that.

To be clear, while I feel there were some missed opportunities tonight, I hope DJT wins in a landslide. I hope he surpasses the Regan/Mondale results. I hope he finishes what he started in 2016. He's got my vote.

This increases the likelihood that Donald Trump will receive at least some actual jail time. It's the only way to cancel the second debate.

However...

This means people will become more outraged at the sham trial and this further damages the Dems and strengthens Trump.

Do any of you guys believe there will be a 2nd debate? I can't imagine it in this universe. I believe that even Trump will state, "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed pathetic vegetable."

Biggest surprise of the night for me, was that I felt the CNN moderators did a good job.
Seemed pretty even-handed to me.

ETA: There was one question asked of Trump that wasn't asked of Biden, however. And that was 'will you accept the outcome of the election'?

So not perfect I guess, but more even-handed overall than I expected.


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Originally posted by mod29:
Biggest surprise of the night for me, was that I felt the CNN moderators did a good job.
Seemed pretty even-handed to me.

The moderators and even the format were actually good. Yes, I agree.

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Originally posted by mojojojo:
To be clear, while I feel there were some missed opportunities tonight, I hope DJT wins in a landslide. I hope he surpasses the Regan/Mondale results. I hope he finishes what he started in 2016. He's got my vote.

You would have been better off prefacing your expressions of frustration with that, but since you say you feel this way, I don't understand the criticism of the way things went tonight.

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Originally posted by Southern Rebel:
Do any of you guys believe there will be a 2nd debate? I can't imagine it in this universe. I believe that even Trump will state, "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed pathetic vegetable."

Donald Trump wants to curb stomp that obnoxious, lying old bastard.

Just as Trump said, he is willing to debate Biden "anytime, anywhere." If there is to be no second debate, it will be the doing of the Dems, not Trump, and, yeah, they're going to be looking for a way out.

But, oh, I forgot: IT'S A TRAP!!!!!!111

Told you guys, didn't I? Have faith.