When our side suggests Biden was hopped up on something at the State of the Union, it's a tacit admission that he did pretty well. But look at the difference here. No teleprompter and speech writers and he was a bumbling fool.

I’m watching CNNs post debate spin room and they’re having a sobering moment, otherwise known as a meltdown.
Even the most hardcore are coming right out and saying the Democrats will all get clobbered if Biden is on the ticket.
They are saying they have talked to elected governors and other high level officials and all are in a total panic this minute.
You never know if others see things the way you do, that’s why I watched this, but this is confirmation.

Glad that abortion is over. I agree Biden looked terrible and did not help his cause much if any. But IMHO Trump wasn't much better. SO many opportunities to bury Joe and instead discussed golf handicaps and joined in the "you're lying" elementary school antics.

"Presidential" debate. Uh huh

I imagine Dr. Jill is having some anxiety this evening.

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Originally posted by mojojojo:
"Presidential" debate. Uh huh

Yeah, you don't like Donald Trump. Got it.

https://x.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/s.../1806501841955655733

I think the Democrats knew exactly how this would go. This wasn’t a surprise for them. The plan was to put him out there to flop so they can replace him.

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Originally posted by mojojojo:
Glad that abortion is over. I agree Biden looked terrible and did not help his cause much if any. But IMHO Trump wasn't much better. SO many opportunities to bury Joe and instead discussed golf handicaps and joined in the "you're lying" elementary school antics.

"Presidential" debate. Uh huh

Trump blew quite a few opportunities tonight but overall he did well but he missed some gems. Too much beating up on Joe when Joe when was beating up on himself. Joe could have moved on to a unity message but he didn't.

Total meltdown on CNN and one panelist said tomorrow morning the Dems need to have a conversation on this disaster.

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Originally posted by cooger:
I think the Democrats knew exactly how this would go. This wasn’t a surprise for them. The plan was to put him out there to flop so they can replace him.

You may be correct, but I don't think anyone the Dems put up will defeat Trump.

One line that stuck with me and Trump missed an opportunity to rip him was, when FJB said that no soldiers have died in foreign countries on his watch.

I was waiting for Trump to say- what about the 13 soldiers at the airport during the Afghanistan withdrawal…

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by mojojojo:
"Presidential" debate. Uh huh

Yeah, you don't like Donald Trump. Got it.

I didn't say that, not at all. I said he misssed a lot of chances to bury his opponent. Neither seemed very presidential to me. Yes, Trump was much better than Biden, but I think he could have sealed the deal had he not gotten into the tit for tat back and forth.

The Democrats know they cannot go with someone else at this late in the game. The Trump Juggernaut is operating on all 8 cylinders, the Democrat brand is ruined right now, and to suggest someone like Newsom (unelectable outside of CA) or Big Mike (she will not be a politician) to step in and take it all away from Trump is ludicrous.

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Originally posted by cooger:
I think the Democrats knew exactly how this would go. This wasn’t a surprise for them. The plan was to put him out there to flop so they can replace him.

Bingo! Fix is in. Hillary, Newsom, Whitman, Big Mike...?

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Originally posted by mojojojo:
Glad that abortion is over. I agree Biden looked terrible and did not help his cause much if any. But IMHO Trump wasn't much better. SO many opportunities to bury Joe and instead discussed golf handicaps and joined in the "you're lying" elementary school antics.

"Presidential" debate. Uh huh

Trump is the man in the Arena, you and I are not. It wasn't his best performance but I don't think his performance cost him any votes whereas Biden's performance will have certainly cost him votes.

So other than losing some style points, I'd say he did very well. and he is under a tremendous amount of pressure

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...but I think he could have sealed the deal had he not gotten into the tit for tat back and forth.

doggone it that's a shame

At one point did Trump refer to Biden as Brandon, or was that wishful hearing on my part?

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Originally posted by mojojojo:
I didn't say that, not at all.

You've been saying it all evening.

Where have you been for the last nine years? This is how Donald Trump speaks. For you to be surprised and dismayed at what you saw tonight is, I think, silly.

John King of CNN:


"this debate was extremely consequential and has Democrats in a massive and full panic considering approaching the White House to encourage Biden to step aside as the Democrat nominee.

This is a five alarm fire for Democrats."

Just did a check here:

Wow… Even all the Commies on Reddit are admitting Biden did horribly!

You know it was truly bad if those knob-polishers are in a panic.