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Pretty sure Tulsi is antigun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T554Gt0iL5k

Didn't sound that way to me! Sounds like she is "coming around" to the truth of why we need the 2nd Amendment, and why people need guns. She specifically mentioned protection from a tyrannical government, then went on to provide examples. Sounds like she has awakened to reality to me... at least I hope so!


don't trust her

the 2A is part of the foundation and principle of the country and she has been against it until recently....

politicians seldom change their stripes when they are rabidly anti-gun for so long



Did you bother to watch that video? If not I would suggest doing so. You don’t even have to watch the whole thing to get an answer to your question.
 
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Yes. The ambiguous "crime" is the offense the 34 charges were made in furtherance of, that made the 34 charges felonies instead of misdemeanors with


Are you an attorney? I ask because I would like to use your points on another forum.

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I can't answer for Lefty, and I'm not a lawyer.

Look at the various articles written in the past few weeks by Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley who are experienced lawyers (and Dersh for sure has been a lifelong Dem).

Each count of the indictment was related to an entry in the Trump company books that said Legal Expense rather than something like "NDA payment to Stormy Daniels". At worst it was a misdemeanor whose statute of limitations was expired, though apparently it is common to account for NDA costs as part of legal expenses.

The crime he was convicted of is a felony because it was allegedly done to further another more serious crime. That is, it was alleged that he had deceptive accounting entries in order to enable or cover up another more serious crime. If there wasn't another more serious crime, then he is innocent of the charges whether or not the accounting entries were perfect.

The prosecution never clearly stated what that more serious crime was, though they hinted at some possibilities during the trial. Thus, Trump was not able to directly answer specific allegations. If the prosecution had provided testimony that Trump had committed a specific other more serious crime such as tax fraud or a federal election law violation, Trump would have been able to provide evidence to show that was false.

What happened was the following: Trump's defense knew the prosecution would hint at a vague election interference or illegal campaign contribution, so they wanted to have a former head of the Federal Election Commission testify that a non-disclosure payment is not a campaign violation, but the judge prohibited that testimony!

Then at the wrap up, in NY state the defendant's lawyer gives their closing statement to the jury first, followed by the prosecutor. AFTER Trump's lawyer finished, the prosecutor then stated as a fact (3 times iirc) that Trump committed an election violation.

As a result, Trump's lawyer was not allowed to refute that assertion! And the judge did not prohibit the prosecutor from making those assertions to the jury.

There is much more that was wrong with the trial and especially the judge's actions, but that is the gist of the issue about the higher crime.
 
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Thanks for this. I wrote to both of my senators and will be contacting my US representative as well.

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I pray that Trump somehow finds a way to remain in office after 2028. You know a man instills fear in the Democratic party when they bribe judges to pin felonies on him.
 
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I pray that Trump somehow finds a way to remain in office after 2028...

What "office"? The WH? How? By ignoring the Constitution?


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I pray that Trump somehow finds a way to remain in office after 2028...

What "office"? The WH? How? By ignoring the Constitution?


What comes after Trump? How far will Democrats go next time to win? 2020, largest documented organized voter fraud in US history. 2024, felonies are pulled out of thin air by a compromised judicial system. Roosevelt served 12 years and we are facing a combined threat greater than the Axis powers of WW2. Trump will need more than four years to drain the swamp, end the border invasion, win the trade war with China, etc.
 
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What comes after Trump? How far will Democrats go next time to win? 2020, largest documented organized voter fraud in US history. 2024, felonies are pulled out of thin air by a compromised judicial system. Roosevelt served 12 years and we are facing a combined threat greater than the Axis powers of WW2. Trump will need more than four years to drain the swamp, end the border invasion, win the trade war with China, etc.
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Code word from her - “common sense policies”

It’s in the Bill of Rights, it’s not a policy. It’s a RIGHT.

She has been and is still wrong and that video proves my point

She‘s coming around - yeah not so much.

She’s a squish on our Constitution.
 
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Yes. The ambiguous "crime" is the offense the 34 charges were made in furtherance of, that made the 34 charges felonies instead of misdemeanors with


Are you an attorney? I ask because I would like to use your points on another forum.

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No, I'm not an attorney. I just read what people like Alan Dershowitz say, and read court decisions when I have time.

Fly-Sig said the same as what I am saying.

Here is more info from https://abcnews.go.com/US/new-...y/story?id=110678995:

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"Under our law, a person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when, with intent to defraud that includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof, that person makes or causes a false entry in the business records of an enterprise," Merchan told the jury.

Merchan told jurors that the prosecutors only need to prove that Trump had the intent to commit or conceal another crime, rather than prove the other crime was committed or aided.

Prosecutors allege that Trump falsified the records to hide a violation of New York Election Law Section 17-152 – a rarely used law that prohibits groups from using unlawful means to influence an election.

"Under our law, a person is guilty of such a conspiracy when, with intent that conduct be performed that would promote or prevent the election of a person to public office by unlawful means, he or she agrees with one or more persons to engage in or cause the performance of such conduct," he said.

Prosecutors offered three theories about the unlawful means -- a tax crime, falsification of bank records or campaign finance violations. According to Merchan, the jury does not need to agree which of the three unlawful means was employed to convict the former president.

"Although you must conclude unanimously that the defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means, you need not be unanimous as to what those unlawful means were," Merchan told jurors.

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Now, NY has a state law regarding election interference, but NY does not have jurisdiction over federal elections. The Feds previously declined any prosecution in this matter. And the "fraudulent records" were made AFTER the election so there is nothing about them that could have misled the public in any way.

The case is a convoluted mess and will not stand up to any reasonable and unbiased scrutiny.

Hillary Clinton used campaign funds to pay for the Steele Dossier and was FINED later by the feds for the campaign finance violation. And the dossier was used to claim "Russian collusion" and interfere with the election. Thus she can be charted in the same way, and there is PROOF she committed the crime of the campaign violation because the feds pursued it and she paid the fine.
 
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Biden grins when asked about Trump:



Biden Mocked After Disturbing Grin When Asked If Trump Is A Political Prisoner

For anyone who hasn't decided if this was a political persecution of a rival, that fucking grin on Bidet's face says it all.
 
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Joe shouldn’t be smiling. He should be worried that the next president will do to him what he did to Trump.

Bidet has been treated with kid gloves. Time to take them off and treat him like the communist dictator he is. Puppet for Obama abs a Soros shill.

Payback must be a real bastard.
 
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Yes.

When the whole of the American people realize that the individual should be free to be the individual and not one group preferred over any other group, then all will realize, the "grouping" is nothing more than divide and conquer.

It's not about dividing the group into individual components and conquering, its about dividing the people in to groups and containing them, and eliminating them, and with that, goes the individual.

That means, it is only "you" against "them".

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Pretty damn good rant. I'll have to text that out in the morning - most of my peeps are asleep Smile


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Speaker Johnson Urges Supreme Court to Overturn ‘Dangerous’ Trump Guilty Verdict

‘I think they’ll set this straight, but it’s going to take a while,' Mr. Johnson said of his expectations for the verdict to be overturned.

House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) said that the U.S. Supreme Court should get involved and overturn former President Donald Trump’s guilty verdict in his business records falsification trial in New York, with the speaker arguing that the circumstances of the case have led to an erosion of public faith in America’s justice system.

“There’s a lot of developments yet to come, but I do believe the Supreme Court should step in, obviously, this is totally unprecedented—and it’s dangerous to our system,” Mr. Johnson said in a May 31 appearance on Fox and Friends.

A jury found the former president guilty on May 30 in a case in which he was charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records in order to conceal non-disclosure payments to adult film actress Stormy Daniels as part of a bid to influence the 2016 presidential election in which he was a candidate.

The guilty verdict made President Trump the first former president in U.S. history to be convicted of a crime, with the former president vowing to appeal the verdict and calling the trial “very unfair.”
“This is a scam. This is a rigged trial … this is a rigged judge,” President Trump said at a press conference on May 31, adding that a specific election expert wasn’t allowed to testify on certain issues related to the trial.

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