The man is only gaining steam.

Fucking baller, rolling out with Kid Rock blasting. I think Trump is the only man in politics that can pull that off.



Trump and Joe Rogan

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were you better off four years ago?

Absolutely! No contest. Obama's third term (with Biden fronting) is even worse than his first two.

Joey D
7/10/23

NSFW...language.

Not really sure why Trump would be so critical of the Iowa governor for staying neutral in the primary. Iowa governors have traditionally stayed neutral at least until well after the Iowa primary. Making an enemy out of a popular Republican governor, especially one who is neutral and has not endorsed any other Republican candidate, doesn't make a lot of sense. Why make enemies out of fellow Republicans?

https://www.politico.com/news/...er-reichman-00106201

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Originally posted by Fed161:
Not really sure why Trump would be so critical of the Iowa governor for staying neutral in the primary.

Not sure, eh? It's amazing to me how some people after seven years still don't understand Trump.

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Not sure, eh? It's amazing to me how some people after seven years still don't understand Trump.[/QUOTE]

You have a good point. I should know better. I do know why this would be Trump's reaction. He is far more interested in personal grievances and settling scores than he is in doing anything positive for the Republican party as a whole. Since the governor is remaining neutral (which has almost always been the case) Trump is just fine with making her an enemy, even at the cost of losing the support of a state senator and who knows how many other Iowans. Which isn't to suggest that he will lose the Iowa primary. He will probably win. But when it comes time to with the general election, whether it's against the brain dead Biden or whoever, this kind of behavior won't help.

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I'm just gonna say, with all due respect, you STILL don't get it.

President Trump doesn't give two popcorn farts about the "Republican Party" as it is. What he DOES give a shit about is...
This country
Patriotism
Americans
The U.S. Constitution
the Economy
strongly regulated borders
energy independence
Judeo/Christian Values
Kicking the shit outta our enemies instead of bowing down to them
etc.
etc.

If you don't get that, then I don't think anyone here can help you.

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I'm just gonna say, with all due respect, you STILL don't get it.

Well, you may be right. My number one political goal is to defeat Biden and his Democrat allies in the upcoming election. That's clearly not Trump's number one goal. Not saying he doesn't care about all of the things you listed, but he cares about settling scores and himself more. He will most likely be the Republican nominee, but if for some reason he isn't, do you think he will make every effort to help the Republican nominee win? Of course he won't. He would rather see Biden win if he is not the nominee.

I STRONGLY disagree with your last sentence…

Me too.

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Originally posted by Fed161:
He would rather see Biden win if he is not the nominee.

You don't know what you're talking about. You reveal your bias against Donald Trump. You have no objectivity on the matter.

If you actually believe that Donald Trump is that selfish, then nothing you say about the man can be taken seriously. You're flat-out wrong.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Fed161:
He would rather see Biden win if he is not the nominee.

You don't know what you're talking about. You reveal your bias against Donald Trump. You have no objectivity on the matter.

If you actually believe that Donald Trump is that selfish, then nothing you say about the man can be taken seriously. You're flat-out wrong.

I hope I am wrong. I really do. To be clear, if he is the nominee, I will support him and hope he wins. My opinion is no doubt affected by a friend of mine who worked directly for Trump and spoke with him on almost a daily basis while he was running a casino in Atlantic City. Virtually all of Trump's relationships ended very poorly when he left Atlantic City. My friend's opinion of Trump has no doubt affected my objectivity.

My friend's opinion of Trump has no doubt affected my objectivity.[/QUOTE]

There's always 2 sides to every story.

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There's always 2 sides to every story.[/QUOTE]

Very true. I would point out that you really can't find virtually anyone in AC who had dealings with Trump that has a nice thing to say about him. But I am sure there is another side to the story of all of them.

"The failure of the now president’s five Atlantic City businesses resulted in thousands of job losses and put dozens of local contractors out of business because they were, much like the elephant sculptor, unpaid. Yet, during his 2016 presidential campaign, Trump boasted of how he took “incredible” amounts of money out of Atlantic City, borrowing cash from third parties so his own wealth wasn’t affected by his various businesses going under. According to Rose, his legacy is best reflected by Atlantic City’s 7.4% unemployment rate – nearly double the national average. “When Trump failed with his casinos,” says Rose, “he turned Atlantic City into a ghost town. His legacy still haunts the boardwalk.”

As far as my doubt that Trump would support the Republican nominee if it is not him - I am sure that my opinion is colored by the words of one man - Donald Trump himself. Trump originally said in 2016 that he would support the Republican nominee if it wasn't him, but then promptly changed his mind and said he wouldn't at the first debate.

https://www.npr.org/sections/t...t-republican-nominee

I've already said way too much about this. Like I said, if Trump is the nominee, I will support him. Over and out.

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Originally posted by Fed161:

My number one political goal is to defeat Biden and his Democrat allies in the upcoming election. That's clearly not Trump's number one goal.

Of course Trump's main goal is to beat Biden, there is no other motivation. The man clearly loves this nation, and sees Biden and those in the Uniparty deep state to be the ones who do not have the country's best interest at heart. If one opines that it is massive ego that drives one to think they may be the only chance for the U.S. to get out of this shit, yes, then Trump has a massive ego. Because it is true.

As far as him "supporting" the Republican nominee, unless something dire happens, it will be Trump, and he knows it, the Republicans know it. If you have been paying attention, DeSantis has been faltering for months, and is basically becoming a non-factor now; big donors are already looking into Tim Scott as possibly the man who can run against Trump. DeSantis' campaign is in a disarray, they can't muster any voter enthusiasm for their candidate, not getting any bump after his announcement. And already Chris Christie, of all people, is closing in on DeSantis in New Hampshire, looking to over take him as the #2 Republican in that state.

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Originally posted by Fed161:

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There's always 2 sides to every story.

Here is a little bit of the other side.
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36205223
A lot of the Republican party didnt support Trump!

^^^In MARCH of 2016, early in a GOP Primary, against a pretty large field (14?) at the time! How is that BBC article even remotely relevant to the current discussion? Polls during this past week have Trump leading DeSantis be TWENTY points...in Florida!

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:
^^^In MARCH of 2016, early in a GOP Primary, against a pretty large field (14?) at the time! How is that BBC article even remotely relevant to the current discussion? Polls during this past week have Trump leading DeSantis be TWENTY points...in Florida!

Go up about 4 posts.This was in reference to Fed61. He posted a link to Trump not supporting/not supporting the Republican nominee if not him.

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Originally posted by triggertreat:

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:
^^^In MARCH of 2016, early in a GOP Primary, against a pretty large field (14?) at the time! How is that BBC article even remotely relevant to the current discussion? Polls during this past week have Trump leading DeSantis be TWENTY points...in Florida!

Go up about 4 posts.This was in reference to Fed61. He posted a link to Trump not supporting/not supporting the Republican nominee if not him.

Well I guess it is relevant to the link Fed161 posted, be he doesn't have a grasp of anything Trump anyway! Nevermind...