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The Donald is speaking in Erie, PA right now. Speaking of electric cars, he said "You wanna go into a good business? Towing. Go into towing. You'll be towing EVs all day long." Big Grin


Or invest into this company Fire Isolator



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^^^^^^^^

"now that Vivek Ramaswamy has been exposed..."

This week, I have come to the realization that Ramaswamy is a bit more establishment than he wants to admit, his latest issue is his support and re-entering in the TPP trade agreement, totally contrary to an America First platform.

And Styx is right- for those who are fed up, and 100% dissatisfied with the current political system, win or lose, Trump is the ONLY choice.



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Trump says Mar-a-Lago security tapes were not deleted, were voluntarily given to prosecutors

He called the allegations election interference and said it was the result of prosecutorial misconduct.

https://justthenews.com/politi...ere-not-deleted-were

Former President Donald Trump said on Sunday he did not delete the Mar-a-Lago security tapes, even as he faces new charges of allegedly conspiring to delete the footage, which he said he handed over to prosecutors.

"MAR-A-LAGO SECURITY TAPES WERE NOT DELETED. THEY WERE VOLUNTARILY HANDED OVER TO THE THUGS, HEADED UP BY DERANGED JACK SMITH," Trump posted on Truth Social in all capital letters. "WE DID NOT EVEN GO TO COURT TO STOP THEM FROM GETTING THESE TAPES. I NEVER TOLD ANYBODY TO DELETE THEM."

The new charges brought against Trump on Thursday came in addition to the 37 federal counts related to his alleged mishandling of classified documents. The former president pleaded not guilty to all 37 original charges.

Special counsel Jack Smith is separately pursuing a probe into Trump's efforts to challenge the 2020 election results and his involvement in the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol riot.


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Donald Trump's Op-Ed in Newsweek. The link is to the Conservative Treehouse instead of Newsweek.

Donald Trump: The Real Victim of the Russiagate Hoax Wasn't Me. It Was the American People | Opinion

“The report by Special Counsel John Durham makes clear beyond a shred of doubt that the Russia Hoax was the most atrocious weaponization of our government in American history. It was a crime like no other. Seven years ago, I ran for office taking on all the most corrupt forces and entrenched interests in our nation’s capital. My agenda was an existential threat to a Washington establishment that got rich and powerful bleeding America dry.

I vowed to stop mass illegal immigration, terminate globalist trade deals, end the sellout of our country to Communist China, stand up to the permanent bureaucracy and the corporate media, and break the neocon addiction to endless foreign wars.

In response, an unelected cabal in the senior ranks of our government, in concert with their chosen candidate, Hillary Clinton, and their allies in the media, launched the de-facto coup attempt known as the Russia Hoax.

Their goal was to prevent my election, and failing that, to throw me out of office or sabotage my presidency, undercut my agenda in Congress, block my domestic reforms, and interfere with my foreign policy.

For nearly three years, they carried out a massive disinformation campaign and lawless persecution based on the monstrous lie that I was a traitor to my country.

These Deep State plotters spied on my campaign. They forged false evidence to get illegal surveillance warrants and smear innocent people through leaks to the media. They offered $1 million for a fictitious dossier written by a foreign spy to try to frame me with treason. They shattered countless lives.

The Durham Report proves that the key figures involved knew from the start that the Russia Collusion conspiracy theory was a lie. The FBI launched their witch hunt without a scrap of legitimate evidence—and when they came upon exonerating information time after time, they covered it up and kept the hoax going forward.

The sickness was driven from the very top. FBI Director James Comey constantly pressured agents for more surveillance and warrants, demanding to know over and over “Where is the FISA, where is the FISA?”

Barack Obama and Joe Biden were in on it, too. They were briefed in August 2016 on reports that Clinton planned to “vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian Security Services.” They knew the truth, yet they put our country through hell.

As savage and cruel as the Russia Hoax was for me, my family, my staff, and so many innocent bystanders, the real victims were the American People.

The destruction this hoax caused to America is almost incalculable. It subverted our democracy, it threatened our security, and it endangered our freedom.

At a critical moment when we should have been reducing tensions with Russia, the Russia Hoax stoked mass hysteria that helped drive Russia straight into the arms of China.

Instead of having a better relationship with Russia as I worked to build, we now have a proxy war with Russia, fueled in part by the lingering fumes of Russiagate delirium. Ukraine has been utterly devastated. Untold numbers of people have been killed. And we could very well end up in World War III.

As the Twitter Files have proven, the Radical Left establishment also used the Russia Hoax to attack freedom of speech. They built a sprawling domestic censorship regime under the guise of combatting so-called “Russian disinformation”—which they quickly defined to include any content they did not like.

The intelligence community, the media, and the Silicon Valley tech companies then deployed this very pretext, “Russian disinformation,” to censor the Biden corruption scandal in 2020—censorship orchestrated, as we now know, by the Biden campaign.

In one poll last year, 79 percent of Americans following the story about Hunter Biden’s sordid laptop said truthful coverage of that wrongly censored story would have changed the outcome of the election. Our country is now paying a very steep price.

Perhaps most dangerous of all, the Russia Hoax normalized the weaponization of law enforcement against the Left’s political enemies. The Radical Democrats and their media partners now cheer as Biden’s DOJ demands the FBI investigate parents at school board meetings, deploys heavily armed teams to arrest pro-life activists, and pursues an all-out persecution of Joe Biden’s leading opponent for the presidency.

These corrupted agencies have interfered in every election since 2016—and they are interfering in the 2024 election before our very eyes.

There must be a reckoning. Accountability now lies in the hands of the voters. The Durham Report has made the stakes abundantly clear, and now the choice is ours: either the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.”

~ President Donald J Trump


https://theconservativetreehou...must-be-a-reckoning/



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"All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope."

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I just bailed off of the MSN webpage thing; red banner screamed "Trump Indicted....Etc". Closed it. Different day, same crap as before. Don't even want to read the story as no doubt the announcement was timed to be THE big news story on nightly news.

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And the next several days to divert what's going on with Snuffit and Poopie Pants.


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Moments after news broke of this latest indictment, The U.S. Credit rating got downgraded. One contributing factor:

Fitch also cited “increased political polarization and partisanship as witnessed by the contested 2020 election” in its June warning. The agency released its Tuesday downgrade within moments of former President Trump’s indictment for his conduct on and leading up to Jan. 6, 2021.


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I haven’t kept up with the firehose of information regarding all of these indictments. It seems the point is to hang them on legal theory flimsy enough that, in coordination with a corrupt media, they can construct an anti Trump narrative. As in no one wants to admit they have no clue what the actual legality of any of this is, and Trump is a Cheeto, and slept with a porn star, orange man bad, so sure. Why not go along with the story we’re being peddled.

My question is this…

Once these indictments go to trial (and I’m not sure they will). Will the discovery process finally reveal some truth to what’s going on? Put another way, as of now the case is in the hands of the punditry. What happens when it’s an actual trial.

Apologies if my question is muddled. But muddled is a condition these perpetrators work to achieve.

Edit: Eventually, they’re going to have to “show their work”. What do you think that will look like?





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They don’t care. If it hurts his electability or hampers him if he is elected they win. His four years were completely shadowed by the Russia stuff. My lib friends don’t even seem to care that it was all fabricated.
 
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President Trump's attorney said this indictment allows them to have subpoena power. He also said they will use it to expose the crimes of the 2020 election. This could be a good thing.
 
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DOJ Indictment Of Trump Is A Declaration Of War Against American Voters

By: John Daniel Davidson
August 02, 2023

It’s not about Trump. It’s about criminalizing dissent and punishing the millions who voted for him — and warning them not to do it again.

On Tuesday, President Joe Biden’s Justice Department took the unprecedented step of indicting former President Donald Trump — Biden’s chief rival in the upcoming 2024 election — for repeatedly expressing his opinion that the last election was stolen, rigged, and unfair.

It’s an opinion millions of Americans share, and to which they are unquestionably entitled thanks to the First Amendment. That includes Trump, who has said repeatedly (and recently) that the 2020 election was stolen. He’ll probably keep saying it until his dying day, and he has every right to do so.

The idea that our Justice Department can indict someone, especially the sitting president’s main political rival, over speech that’s protected by the First Amendment is simply insane. It puts us firmly into banana republic territory, where tinpot dictators jail their political opponents ahead of election day to ensure their “reelection.”

Simply put, this indictment is nothing more than a declaration of war against American voters and their constitutional right to free speech. As Jonathan Turley noted on Twitter, “If you take a red pen to all of the material presumptively protected by the First Amendment, you can reduce much of the indictment to haiku.”

Consider what’s alleged, and what isn’t, by DOJ Special Counsel Jack Smith (who, let’s not forget, was once rebuked by a unanimous Supreme Court after he tried to put a GOP governor in prison during the Obama administration). The charges against Trump do not include incitement to violence on Jan. 6, 2021. You might be surprised to hear that after Smith’s hyperbolic press conference Tuesday, in which he went on and on about the Jan. 6 Capitol riot and how horrible it was.

Instead, the charges are that Trump committed conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of and an attempt to obstruct an official proceeding, and conspiracy against rights. Sounds scary, but what it amounts to is the criminalization of opinions with which Jack Smith and the Biden Justice Department happen to disagree.

Crucially, Smith’s indictment alleges that Trump’s claims about the 2020 election were false and that he knew they were false. As evidence, Smith cites a bunch of Trump officials and federal bureaucracies that told him there was no evidence of widespread election fraud. He even cites the infamous Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, which we now know, thanks to the “Twitter Files,” directly interfered in the 2020 election by censoring Americans by proxy.

Yet despite the likes of CISA telling him otherwise, Trump kept claiming the election was stolen, so he must have been lying. Or so goes the reasoning here.

I know, I know. You’re probably thinking this can’t be real, that no one would be so stupid as to hang charges on the idea that Trump secretly believed he’d lost the election because a bunch of deep-state officials told him so, but lied about it in hopes of pulling off a grand “conspiracy.”

But it doesn’t matter. Whether Trump knew he lost the election and lied about it is a political matter, not a legal one. It’s precisely the kind of thing that can only be settled by voters, not by DOJ thugs in the Biden administration.

Think of it this way. If Smith can indict Trump for speaking out about the election, for arguing that it was stolen or rigged, then rest assured the DOJ under Biden could indict every one of the millions of Americans who agree with Trump about 2020 and have said so publicly. Hell, Smith could probably indict me for writing this article (and especially this one).

Forget about Trump for a minute. This indictment sets a terrifying precedent that puts all Americans at risk. If the prosecution of Trump succeeds, it means the First Amendment is a dead letter in America. It means you’re not allowed to have opinions that contradict the Justice Department’s official narrative — and if you do, you’d better not have the temerity to run for high office.

Seen in that light, this latest indictment of Trump — who has now been charged with more than 75 crimes, many of them by the Biden DOJ — is an exercise in raw power. It’s not that Democrats are playing some kind of 4D chess in hopes of ginning up support for Trump among the base to ensure he’s the nominee because they think they can beat him in the general election.

No, they just want to put him in prison. They think Trump’s a criminal for opposing them, and they think the same thing about his supporters. The left wants to criminalize dissent. They don’t really think you should get a vote, much less an opinion. That’s what this indictment is about. If you think this is bad, just wait.

John Daniel Davidson is a senior editor at The Federalist.

https://thefederalist.com/2023...nst-american-voters/



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Jack Smith Admits Making False Claim to Court in Trump Case

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...tlsPnyNVSUmT%2FBLnGM

Special Counsel Jack Smith’s team made a startling admission in its case against former President Donald Trump, acknowledging in a new court filing that it failed to turn over all evidence to Mr. Trump’s legal team as required by law while falsely claiming it had.

Mr. Smith’s team said in a July 31 court filing (pdf) in its classified documents case against the former president that it had incorrectly claimed during a July 18 court hearing that it had provided all Mar-a-Lago surveillance footage to Mr. Trump’s defense attorneys, as required by law.

“On July 27, as part of the preparation for the superseding indictment coming later that day and the discovery production for Defendant De Oliveira, the Government learned that this footage had not been processed and uploaded to the platform established for the defense to view the subpoenaed footage,” Mr. Smith’s team wrote in the latest filing.

“The Government’s representation at the July 18 hearing that all surveillance footage the Government had obtained pre-indictment had been produced was therefore incorrect,” it added.

Under the so-called Brady rule, prosecutors in a criminal trial have a constitutional duty to disclose all evidence to a defendant’s legal team, including information that is favorable to the accused and could reduce a potential sentence.

The Department of Justice (DOJ) did not immediately return a request for comment from The Epoch Times.

Mr. Smith’s team’s admission carries a hint of irony as it accused Mr. Trump in a new “superseding indictment” (pdf) filed on July 27 of conspiring with his staff to delete some security footage so that the grand jury in the case would not see all the evidence.

Trump Denies Deleting Tapes
In the superseding indictment, the special counsel charged Mr. Trump with willful retention of national defense information and two charges in connection to claims that he allegedly told a Mar-a-Lago worker to delete security tapes to prevent a grand jury from seeing them.

Mar-a-Lago staffer Carlos De Oliveira has been named as a third defendant in the superseding indictment, along with Trump aide Walt Nauta and the former commander-in-chief himself.

Mr. Trump took to his social media platform to deny the new charges, claiming that Mr. Smith’s claim of security tapes being deleted as false and tantamount to election interference ahead of the 2024 contest.

“THE SECURITY TAPES BEING DELETED WAS A MADE UP LIE BY DERANGED JACK SMITH! ELECTION INTERFERENCE,” Mr. Trump wrote in all caps in a post on Truth Social on Aug. 1.

In the superseding indictment, prosecutors allege that Mr. De Oliveira told another Mar-a-Lago employee that “the boss” wanted a server “deleted” on June 27, 2022. That came about two months before FBI agents raided the Palm Beach resort owned by the former president, uncovering allegedly classified documents at a storage area.

Mr. Trump has said he used presidential authority to declassify all the relevant documents in the case against him and has denied that he hid any materials from the government.

In a statement following the July 27 announcement of a superseding indictment and new charges, Mr. Trump’s campaign said it was a “continued desperate and flailing attempt” to harass the former president.

“Deranged Jack Smith knows that they have no case and is casting about for any way to salvage their illegal witch hunt and to get someone other than Donald Trump to run against Crooked Joe Biden,” the campaign team wrote.

An average of polling data compiled by RealClear Politics shows a very close matchup between President Joe Biden and Mr. Trump, with the former enjoying a slight 0.9 percentage point lead.

Mr. Smith’s superseding indictment increases the total number of charges in the classified materials case to 40.


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ALAN DERSHOWITZ: Here's why THIS Trump indictment may collapse

“I can imagine the sound of champagne bottles popping from Martha's Vineyard to Washington D.C., as President Donald Trump's haters celebrate this third, historic federal indictment.

If only they were able to drop their partisan blinders and see the grave damage this legal lunacy is doing to our country!

On Tuesday, U.S. Special Counsel Jack Smith revealed felony charges against the former president for allegedly subverting the will of the American people and attempting to overturn the results of an election.

Yes, Trump's behavior following his 2020 loss was wrong. But was it criminal?

Not on the basis of what I've seen thus far. …”

DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/12366013



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The globalists/dims have shown they will do anything to keep DT out of power. They started a pandemic with what I think the primary or immediate purpose was to change voting laws. I think this proves DT is our only hope.
 
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Pence statements prior to Jan. 6 undercut his claims on election integrity, constitutional duty

Pence has repeatedly maintained he lacked the constitutional authority to send the elections results back to the contested states for review and insisted he saw no evidence of voter fraud swaying the outcome of the 2020 election.

https://justthenews.com/politi...e-election-integrity



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Pence statements prior to Jan. 6 undercut his claims on election integrity, constitutional duty

Pence has repeatedly maintained he lacked the constitutional authority to send the elections results back to the contested states for review and insisted he saw no evidence of voter fraud swaying the outcome of the 2020 election.

https://justthenews.com/politi...e-election-integrity

And I would categorize Pence as an unprincipled, paid-and-bought-for, two-faced (not to be confused with dog-faced), lying (not to be confused with pony-soldier lying), RINO, sack of fecal matter Swamp Creature. FHATHHRIO...no offense to the horse.



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