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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
It wouldn't matter how concretely fraud is proven to have flipped the election at this point. The Biden administration isn't going anywhere for at least the next four years. That is the straight up hard reality.

Nevertheless, he will be seen and known in history as a fraud which is why the investigation and ultimately the ability to prove fraud if possible must go forward.


No reason for being proven a fraud should bother him. He has been a fraud (a very successful one, at that) for his whole adult life.


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I doubt obiden will voluntarily leave the Oval Office when the election is finally proven to be a fraud. Maybe that's why the National Guard won't be leaving anytime soon?


Perhaps the national guard is there in case enough lawsuits get through that disqualify enough votes to show that Trump and the Republican Senators in GA actually won. When the truth comes out, Biden and his ilk are counting on the National Guard to keep them in power. THAT is the real military coup.


Are the NG currently in DC federalized? I'd think, if they were really there to prop up the current regime, plenty of state governors would order them back home.
 
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^^^^^
They have NOT been "Federalized". They were only "Deputized" by the U.S. Marshal's Office right before the inauguration.



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In the weeks and months leading up to the election, several dims (Pelosi, Hillary?, others) predicted Trump would have to be physically pulled out of the White House by some sort of martial forces.

Two points come to mind: the dims knew the election would be illegitimate and, as always, they accuse us of what they would do (if justice were to be served).




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Regarding election fraud. I'm afraid the tech generation would be all in for voting on their smart phones. If it's secure enough for banking then why not voting? Sorry, I can't trust mine for voting. Seems like it would be ripe for cheating. But be prepared. That's the next thing we will be up against.


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A show of hands
 
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A show of hands

A show of hands would be better than what we had in November. Trump drew huge crowds wherever he went. That was a "show of hands", so to speak that Biden could never compete with.

Heck, I'd be in favor of dipping the thumb in ink when voting to keep people from going in for their friends. Of course, we have to eliminate mail-in voting.



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Judge Releases Dominion Audit Report: System 'Designed' to 'Create Systemic Fraud'
Court unseals details of audit on machines in Michigan’s Antrim County

By: Jay Greenberg

A Michigan judge has released the bombshell report on the audit of Dominion Voting Systems, revealing that the machines and their software were "designed" to "create systemic fraud.

"Judge Releases Dominion Audit Report: System 'Designed' to 'Create Systemic Fraud'
Court unseals details of audit on machines in Michigan’s Antrim County.

The report covers the forensic audit of Dominion's machines in Michigan’s Antrim County — which received national attention after it was discovered that 6,000 votes for President Donald Trump were "flipped" to Democrat Joe Biden due to an "error."

13th Circuit Court Judge Kevin Elsenheimer ordered the report's protective order to be lifted on Monday night, allowing the details of the audit to be unsealed and released to the public.

The data firm that conducted the forensic audit of Dominion Voting Systems determined that the machines and software in Michigan showed that they were designed to create fraud and influence election results, the report reveals.

"We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results,” Russell Ramsland Jr., co-founder of Allied Security Operations Group, said in a preliminary report.

"The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors."


https://neonnettle.com/news/13...eate-systemic-fraud-


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Sweet. A day late and a dollar short as the saying goes.
 
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Yes but it simply reinforces the illegitimacy of the current administration and proves that we were right.

This is just the start. I can’t wait until AZ gets through its audit and comes to similar conclusions.

The people have been cheated. And it’s about time we rectify that.
 
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Judge Releases Dominion Audit Report: System 'Designed' to 'Create Systemic Fraud'
Court unseals details of audit on machines in Michigan’s Antrim County

By: Jay Greenberg

A Michigan judge has released the bombshell report on the audit of Dominion Voting Systems, revealing that the machines and their software were "designed" to "create systemic fraud.

"Judge Releases Dominion Audit Report: System 'Designed' to 'Create Systemic Fraud'
Court unseals details of audit on machines in Michigan’s Antrim County.

The report covers the forensic audit of Dominion's machines in Michigan’s Antrim County — which received national attention after it was discovered that 6,000 votes for President Donald Trump were "flipped" to Democrat Joe Biden due to an "error."

13th Circuit Court Judge Kevin Elsenheimer ordered the report's protective order to be lifted on Monday night, allowing the details of the audit to be unsealed and released to the public.

The data firm that conducted the forensic audit of Dominion Voting Systems determined that the machines and software in Michigan showed that they were designed to create fraud and influence election results, the report reveals.

"We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results,” Russell Ramsland Jr., co-founder of Allied Security Operations Group, said in a preliminary report.

"The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors."


https://neonnettle.com/news/13...eate-systemic-fraud-


Disclosed on page 666, 671 and 700. Bears repeating.


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Judge Releases Dominion Audit Report: System 'Designed' to 'Create Systemic Fraud'
Court unseals details of audit on machines in Michigan’s Antrim County

By: Jay Greenberg

A Michigan judge has released the bombshell report on the audit of Dominion Voting Systems, revealing that the machines and their software were "designed" to "create systemic fraud.

"Judge Releases Dominion Audit Report: System 'Designed' to 'Create Systemic Fraud'
Court unseals details of audit on machines in Michigan’s Antrim County.

The report covers the forensic audit of Dominion's machines in Michigan’s Antrim County — which received national attention after it was discovered that 6,000 votes for President Donald Trump were "flipped" to Democrat Joe Biden due to an "error."

13th Circuit Court Judge Kevin Elsenheimer ordered the report's protective order to be lifted on Monday night, allowing the details of the audit to be unsealed and released to the public.

The data firm that conducted the forensic audit of Dominion Voting Systems determined that the machines and software in Michigan showed that they were designed to create fraud and influence election results, the report reveals.

"We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results,” Russell Ramsland Jr., co-founder of Allied Security Operations Group, said in a preliminary report.

"The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors."


https://neonnettle.com/news/13...eate-systemic-fraud-


Why is this being posted now? It’s from mid December. Tubestone posted the same old news on page 700. Am I missing something?




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Why is this being posted now? It’s from mid December. Tubestone posted the same old news on page 700. Am I missing something?


There are still those who do not know. The actual forensic report can be found HERE.


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Yes but it simply reinforces the illegitimacy of the current administration and proves that we were right.

This is just the start. I can’t wait until AZ gets through its audit and comes to similar conclusions.

The people have been cheated. And it’s about time we rectify that.


Yes and we need to stay steadfast and see it through to the end.


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The impeachment is in my view completely unconstitutional, and stupid and bad for the country on top of that. I heard this morning that Trump's legal team for the impeachment has left. All of them. Supposedly the reason is that Trump wants his defense to be that he was right about the election all along and he really did win. The lawyers all said that's a losing strategy. The lawyers wanted to focus on the constitutionality issues and the issue of whether there was really any incitement. They believe they can prove their was no incitement. They were prepared to give examples of Dems saying crazy stuff (and the violence that followed) and there were no charge of incitement. They say that in the context of an impeachment trial, it will be impossible to prove he really did win the election.

It looks like there will not be enough votes in the Senate for a conviction, regardless. But the consensus of opinion from the talking heads is that this strategy (Trump was right - he really did win) is a loser. That's why the legal team left. He may still be acquitted, but it will make it more difficult for some on the fence moderate Republicans to vote for acquittal.

My own view is that the Republicans do have to focus on election integrity, and to do it with everything they have. But I am not sure that the impeachment trial is the best place to do it. The media will be able to pound all over Trumps arguments, and there will be nobody (in the media) who will push back on it. A state by state strategy will make that more difficult.

Republicans in every state need to raise the election integrity issue whenever and where ever they can. It needs to be done in state legislatures, in the courts, and where ever possible. Most importantly, the best path to progress on the issue is to win back the House and Senate. That means to nominate candidates who can win. Some nut job who says that the fires in California were started by Jewish space lasers, or that the Clintons murdered JFK Jr so he wouldn't run against Hillary, might be able to win in a district in GA, but they won't be able to win any place else.
 
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The impeachment is in my view completely unconstitutional . . . the fires in California were started by Jewish space lasers
  • Unconstitutional? Isn't impeachment a tool for removing a serving official? President Trump is no longer serving; he is now a private citizen. How can a private citizen be impeached? What would they do with this meshuggeneh plan if they were successful? Remove his status as ex-president? Give me a phucken break.

  • I didn't know that we had space lasers. Nobody tells me anything. Frown



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I believe the point of this charade is to disqualify Trump from holding any Federal Office in the future. he scares them that much they want to prevent any run for anything in 2024.
 
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  • Unconstitutional? Isn't impeachment a tool for removing a serving official? President Trump is no longer serving; he is now a private citizen. How can a private citizen be impeached? What would they do with this meshuggeneh plan if they were successful? Remove his status as ex-president? Give me a phucken break.[/QUOTE]

    In case I didn't make myself clear - you are absolutely correct.
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    Seems to me that Fed161 impugned the intelligence of Georgians. And he is from Jersey?
     
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    Seems to me that Fed161 impugned the intelligence of Georgians. And he is from Jersey?


    Is the average Jersey voter dumber than the average Georgian voter? Absolutely! No defense of Jersey voters from me. Our governor is one the worst in the country. However, the voters in that particular district had a chance in the Republican primary to vote for a solid Trump supporting successful Christian conservative. He came in second. Now the Republican party has to deal with this huge distraction.

    But I digress. I don't think the impeachment trial is the place to prove election fraud - or that Trump really won. Why? Because it won't work. I didn't say it shouldn't work. I said it won't work.
     
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