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Yes but it simply reinforces the illegitimacy of the current administration and proves that we were right.

This is just the start. I can’t wait until AZ gets through its audit and comes to similar conclusions.

The people have been cheated. And it’s about time we rectify that.


Yes and we need to stay steadfast and see it through to the end.


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The impeachment is in my view completely unconstitutional, and stupid and bad for the country on top of that. I heard this morning that Trump's legal team for the impeachment has left. All of them. Supposedly the reason is that Trump wants his defense to be that he was right about the election all along and he really did win. The lawyers all said that's a losing strategy. The lawyers wanted to focus on the constitutionality issues and the issue of whether there was really any incitement. They believe they can prove their was no incitement. They were prepared to give examples of Dems saying crazy stuff (and the violence that followed) and there were no charge of incitement. They say that in the context of an impeachment trial, it will be impossible to prove he really did win the election.

It looks like there will not be enough votes in the Senate for a conviction, regardless. But the consensus of opinion from the talking heads is that this strategy (Trump was right - he really did win) is a loser. That's why the legal team left. He may still be acquitted, but it will make it more difficult for some on the fence moderate Republicans to vote for acquittal.

My own view is that the Republicans do have to focus on election integrity, and to do it with everything they have. But I am not sure that the impeachment trial is the best place to do it. The media will be able to pound all over Trumps arguments, and there will be nobody (in the media) who will push back on it. A state by state strategy will make that more difficult.

Republicans in every state need to raise the election integrity issue whenever and where ever they can. It needs to be done in state legislatures, in the courts, and where ever possible. Most importantly, the best path to progress on the issue is to win back the House and Senate. That means to nominate candidates who can win. Some nut job who says that the fires in California were started by Jewish space lasers, or that the Clintons murdered JFK Jr so he wouldn't run against Hillary, might be able to win in a district in GA, but they won't be able to win any place else.
 
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The impeachment is in my view completely unconstitutional . . . the fires in California were started by Jewish space lasers
  • Unconstitutional? Isn't impeachment a tool for removing a serving official? President Trump is no longer serving; he is now a private citizen. How can a private citizen be impeached? What would they do with this meshuggeneh plan if they were successful? Remove his status as ex-president? Give me a phucken break.

  • I didn't know that we had space lasers. Nobody tells me anything. Frown



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I believe the point of this charade is to disqualify Trump from holding any Federal Office in the future. he scares them that much they want to prevent any run for anything in 2024.
 
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  • Unconstitutional? Isn't impeachment a tool for removing a serving official? President Trump is no longer serving; he is now a private citizen. How can a private citizen be impeached? What would they do with this meshuggeneh plan if they were successful? Remove his status as ex-president? Give me a phucken break.[/QUOTE]

    In case I didn't make myself clear - you are absolutely correct.
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    Seems to me that Fed161 impugned the intelligence of Georgians. And he is from Jersey?
     
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    Seems to me that Fed161 impugned the intelligence of Georgians. And he is from Jersey?


    Is the average Jersey voter dumber than the average Georgian voter? Absolutely! No defense of Jersey voters from me. Our governor is one the worst in the country. However, the voters in that particular district had a chance in the Republican primary to vote for a solid Trump supporting successful Christian conservative. He came in second. Now the Republican party has to deal with this huge distraction.

    But I digress. I don't think the impeachment trial is the place to prove election fraud - or that Trump really won. Why? Because it won't work. I didn't say it shouldn't work. I said it won't work.
     
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    Originally posted by Fed161:
    The impeachment is in my view completely unconstitutional, and stupid and bad for the country on top of that. I heard this morning that Trump's legal team for the impeachment has left. All of them. Supposedly the reason is that Trump wants his defense to be that he was right about the election all along and he really did win. The lawyers all said that's a losing strategy. The lawyers wanted to focus on the constitutionality issues and the issue of whether there was really any incitement. They believe they can prove their was no incitement. They were prepared to give examples of Dems saying crazy stuff (and the violence that followed) and there were no charge of incitement. They say that in the context of an impeachment trial, it will be impossible to prove he really did win the election.

    It looks like there will not be enough votes in the Senate for a conviction, regardless. But the consensus of opinion from the talking heads is that this strategy (Trump was right - he really did win) is a loser. That's why the legal team left. He may still be acquitted, but it will make it more difficult for some on the fence moderate Republicans to vote for acquittal.

    My own view is that the Republicans do have to focus on election integrity, and to do it with everything they have. But I am not sure that the impeachment trial is the best place to do it. The media will be able to pound all over Trumps arguments, and there will be nobody (in the media) who will push back on it. A state by state strategy will make that more difficult.

    Republicans in every state need to raise the election integrity issue whenever and where ever they can. It needs to be done in state legislatures, in the courts, and where ever possible. Most importantly, the best path to progress on the issue is to win back the House and Senate. That means to nominate candidates who can win. Some nut job who says that the fires in California were started by Jewish space lasers, or that the Clintons murdered JFK Jr so he wouldn't run against Hillary, might be able to win in a district in GA, but they won't be able to win any place else.


    Yes, focus on something already known to the whole world. That will help a lot in fixing this mess. Not really, just being facetious.


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    Trump should just ignore the whole impeachment scam, like Justice Roberts. Give them the big F.U. No lawyers, don't show up, don't comment, nothing. Let them make fools of themselves. Let his few friends in the Senate fight it. If they convict him, then sue the US Govt for violating the Constitution by trying a normal citizen.

    Also, the more time they waste with this the less time to fuck up other things (but they'll eventually find a way).
     
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    I wish Trump would send a lawyer to say that since Mr. Trump cannot be impeached as a private citizen, he must be reinstated as the President of the United States. Then the impeachment may proceed.


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    Trump should just ignore the whole impeachment scam, like Justice Roberts. Give them the big F.U. No lawyers, don't show up, don't comment, nothing.


    Nah. He should roll into the Senate chamber like Ron Livingston in Office Space. Jeans, t-shirt, and flip flops. Stroll in with a coke and a happy meal. Find a seat, kick his feat up on a railing or desk, toss some French fries in his mouth and say, "let's do this."


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    He should roll into the Senate chamber like Ron Livingston in Office Space. Jeans, t-shirt, and flip flops. Stroll in with a coke and a happy meal. Find a seat, kick his feat up on a railing or desk, toss some French fries in his mouth and say, "let's do this."


    disgree


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    disgree


    My goodness. Can't people simply laugh at a joke?


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    My goodness. Can't people simply laugh at a joke?


    Sure, when the joke is funny.
     
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    My goodness. Can't people simply laugh at a joke?


    Sure, when the joke is funny.


    That was actually very funny. Maybe you didn’t see the movie.




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    I thought so too

    Maybe he should clean some fish while they are spewing their bile... and then just up and leave saying "Ive got somewhere else Id rather be, and since Im out of office already you cant call this sham an impeachment, so good luck with whatever you are doing. Later haters"

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    Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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    My goodness. Can't people simply laugh at a joke?


    Sure, when the joke is funny.


    That was actually very funny. Maybe you didn’t see the movie.


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    I believe the point of this charade is to disqualify Trump from holding any Federal Office in the future. he scares WE SCARE them that much they want to prevent any run for anything in 2024.


    Just made a little modification...

    If we're going to have Trump do movie/tv skits, then how about The Otter Defense from Animal house! Tell this to the Limpeachment crewand we all get up and stream out humming the national anthem.... Not sure if they can get the keys to the Beast and modify it like Dorfmans Lincoln though....

     
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    Balzé, I thought it was funny.
     
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