No one in Biden's inept administration resigns, and no one gets fired.

They clearly promote incompetence.

Yesterday was strange. I lost power and cable/internet at 2 PM, expecting it was just a heat related brownout. Turns out a semi truck hit a pole outside the subdivision that routes all power and telecom cables, and it took the power company until 10 PM to get power on, and until noon today to get cable/internet.

So I was on iPhones and using backup batteries all night to keep up with what was happening.

I had a strong feeling this would happen at some point. The TDS rhetoric was too over-the-top. This is the first shots fired at a President since Reagan, which I remember hearing over the intercom in elementary school. That's 43 years ago.

I am aghast at the failure of the USSS to secure a rooftop within close range of President Trump, and their failure to heed witnesses that SAW THE SHOOTER CLIMB UP ONTO THE ROOF WITH A RIFLE. Biden's administration is punctuated by incompetence at all levels, and this is just the latest example. We all know BHO is in charge and calling the shots. I can only conclude that he is trying to destroy the USA so he can implement a marxist state. BHO was the true Manchurian Candidate of our litetimes.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
Latest headline on the NewsX video news crawl says the FBI has yet to determine a motive

Why in the fuck are they wasting their time to figure out a motive

Have they not been paying attention? Oh yeah, the FBI is part of the problem. They don’t want to find a motive because anyone connecting the dots
will find the FBI is one of the dots

Is motive really that hard of a puzzle?

Somebody shoots gun at someone else’s head, why? Maybe cause they want to kill the person?

Why do they want to kill the person? Maybe because they don’t like or disagree with the person?

Ain’t rocket science…

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Originally posted by oddball:
…Cheatle, should resign tomorrow.

She should be fired for incompetence, and fired in such a way she can never again work in the government.

Not even as a fertilizer taster in the Department of Agriculture.

I'm not well versed in rifles and scopes, having only 24 hours or so of formal training on an AR platform with a dot. But what I'm reading online from pundits concerning the counter sniper team on the roof is bugging me, so I figured asking here makes sense.

Zones of fire are not just left to right (degrees) but also include distance and elevation. After watching the video the first time, I thought the counter sniper freaked out and knocked the tripod out of whack.

The second time I heard the audio, I had a different take. I think the counter sniper on the tripod was looking for a possible threat at a higher elevation and/or further away. I think there were communications happening trying to define where the threat was, and if if it was a threat.

The counter sniper on the tripod quickly looked up immediately before the shots were fired to get a better overall view (maybe). Then, the tripod was purposefully adjusted for a lower and closer shot. Does this make sense?

The counter snipers look to be about 20 to 21-feet above ground level (1365' elevation). The shooter was found on that rooftop at about 1357' elevation, and the building behind was at 1368' elevation.

The video does not make it clear if that team took the shooter out or if it was someone else.

There are so many pundits - including well-known "conservatives" saying the team "had him in their sites and did nothing." I'm disgusted at those comments since I don't think they know WTF they are talking about.

I also think they were trying to determine whether it was just someone on a roof outside the perimeter or a real threat. The comments about the shooter being "ignored" is also bothering me. As I noted, I'm thinking there was communications going on trying to figure out what was happening on a roof in that area.

Concerning elevation and distance, the building directly behind the shooter seems to be at least one story higher (12') than the building roof he was on. There is also a water tower to the left of the shooter, but it seems at least 45-degrees to the right of the building from the counter sniper's position. There is nothing to the north higher than the building behind the shooter that is at a higher elevation. (Google Earth will show you the difference between the elevation each building.)



https://x.com/realErikDPrince/.../1812538250931642534
(That link is Erik Prince's post on the wind yesterday and some other comments including his comment about the counter sniper...)

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The law enforcement sniper (unclear if USSS) in newsreels was clearly overwhelmed as his face came off his rifle instead of doing his job to kill the shooter. Clearly they were watching the shooter but apparently have a no "first shot" policy. The only positive action was an apparent 488yd shot by one USSS sniper which despatched the assasin but after the assassin launched at least 5 rounds, wounding DJT and killing and severely others in the crowd.

Would it be considered treasonous if she intentionally denied augmented protection levels knowing that current levels were insufficient for the threat level?

Is it just incompetence or is it worse?

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Originally posted by konata88:
Would it be considered treasonous if she intentionally denied augmented protection levels knowing that current levels were insufficient for the threat level?

Is it just incompetence or is it worse?

She's an incompetent DEI hire whose highest priority is having 30% female agents by 2030. The treason is putting such a jackwad in charge in the first place.

Steve,

A rooftop within 200 yards of Trump with IDEAL shooting position was left un-controlled by USSS. This is the most incompetent thing I have ever seen the USSS allow. Don't make excuses for them. They screwed the pooch royally on this and there is no excuse whatsoever.

This was 100% a failure of site prep and planning. The officers on the scene I will assume did their best to react to the situation as it unfolded.

But there is still CLEAR evidence that witnesses SAW the shooter climb onto the roof and set up his position and nothing was done by the LEO's it was reported to.

I will await the congressional hearings on the matter and the testimony of the witness and the officers. But mark my words, HEADS WILL ROLL over this.

The #1 purpose of the USSS is TO NOT LOSE A PRESIDENT ON YOUR WATCH. They came within millimeters of losing President Trump due to gross incompetence. The fact that anyone was allowed within close shooting distance is a massive failure.

BREAKING NEWS: Cop confronted Trump shooter but RETREATED when rifle was aimed at him - then would-be assassin quickly fired at ex-president

By CHARLIE SPIERING, SENIOR POLITICAL REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM IN BETHEL PARK, PENNSYLVANIA
PUBLISHED: 08:18 EDT, 14 July 2024 | UPDATED: 15:46 EDT, 14 July 2024

Donald Trump has vowed to attend the Republican Convention on Monday in Milwaukee, one day after he was nearly assassinated by a 20-year-old in Pennsylvania - while new details begin to emerge about the abhorrent security failures that took place.

According to sources, a police officer sheepishly backed away when the would-be assassin pointed a gun at him, just moments before he then fired in Trump's direction, clipping his ear.

Trump announced he will not be delaying his Wisconsin trip - less than 24 hours after he was shot by Thomas Matthew Crooks from a rooftop 130 yards away.

The former president said he would remain 'Defiant in the face of Wickedness' hours after being shot on stage at a rally in Pennsylvania.

Trump echoed Ronald Reagan who said 'I owe my life to God' after he survived being shot in 1981.

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14:48
BREAKING:Local police officer came face-to-face with would-be assassin but backed away, sources say

Not long before shots rang out, rally goers noticed a man climbing to the top of a roof of a nearby building and warned local law enforcement, according to two law enforcement officials.

One officer climbed to the roof and encountered Crooks, who pointed his rifle at the officer.

The officer retreated down the ladder and Crooks quickly took a shot toward former President Donald Trump, and that’s when the U.S. Secret Service counter snipers shot him, said the officials who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Steve,

... Don't make excuses for them.

I'm not. It's kind of obvious that those rooftops should have had law enforcement presence lock them down to prevent any sort of access. My comment is focused on the action and reaction of the counter sniper on the roof.

I'm just hearing different things, including the stuff about them "letting" him shoot before engaging him and I think that's wrong.

Given the pics and what seems to be a high power scope on the sniper rifle, one would imagine that a rifle would be easily discernible at 150 yards. And perhaps even that the shooter was not tactically geared up (wearing a t-shirt?).

It's not clear what sight image the sniper really had. Or the prone one.

But if the shooter was at all visible and spotted, it doesn't seem like it would be difficult to determine.

Fox just referred to a "five-fifty-six" rifle.

Mike Glover of FCS talks about and gives insights to several of the things we are discussing in this thread.

He starts off giving a quick overview of what is happening in his personal life. Skip ahead to the 3min mark to start his assessments regarding the shooting.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Fox just referred to a "five-fifty-six" rifle.

Could it have been a Ruger or some other AR-15 style rifle with a 556 name?

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Originally posted by 911Boss:

quote:

Originally posted by nhtagmember:
Latest headline on the NewsX video news crawl says the FBI has yet to determine a motive

Why in the fuck are they wasting their time to figure out a motive

Have they not been paying attention? Oh yeah, the FBI is part of the problem. They don’t want to find a motive because anyone connecting the dots
will find the FBI is one of the dots

Is motive really that hard of a puzzle?

Somebody shoots gun at someone else’s head, why? Maybe cause they want to kill the person?

Why do they want to kill the person? Maybe because they don’t like or disagree with the person?

Ain’t rocket science…

It is possible this kid had no real motive, or one so convoluted it has to yet be pieced together. Hinckly tried to kill Reagan as an attempt to impress Jodie Foster. Politics never came into it.

I'm not saying that the left's hate rhetoric didn't play a part or wasn't the reason, but this kid also wasn't out lighting fires for BLM or antifa (that we know of). He donated 15 bucks to a lefty organization a couple of years ago but otherwise doesn't really seem to be political so far.

I don't know what this kid's motive really was or what influenced his decision to do something this stupid. I'm not part of the investigation.

But I do know people do stupid shit all the time for the most illogical or delusional of reasons. Every first responder on this board can attest to that.

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Originally posted by kkina:

quote:

Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Fox just referred to a "five-fifty-six" rifle.

Could it have been a Ruger or some other AR-15 style rifle with a 556 name?

The media knows fuckall about guns.

Recall the Navy Yard nutcase. He used a sawn off pump Remington 870 shotgun.

The local media called it a “Bushmaster” after the type of weapons were announced.

^^^ Headline should have read "Standing for America".
It's how I see it.

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Originally posted by OcCurt:

It is possible this kid had no real motive, or one so convoluted it has to yet be pieced together. Hinckly tried to kill Reagan as an attempt to impress Jodie Foster. Politics never came into it.

I'm not saying that the left's hate rhetoric didn't play a part or wasn't the reason, but this kid also wasn't out lighting fires for BLM or antifa (that we know of). He donated 15 bucks to a lefty organization a couple of years ago but otherwise doesn't really seem to be political so far.

I don't know what this kid's motive really was or what influenced his decision to do something this stupid. I'm not part of the investigation.

But I do know people do stupid shit all the time for the most illogical or delusional of reasons. Every first responder on this board can attest to that.

The current Wikipedia article article on him describes him as an oft-bullied student in high school. It's possible his actions were more psychologically motivated. (I understand a Wiki entry this early on is especially fraught with spurious information.)

Still searching for a motive. Preventing Tromp from being reelected is a little too easy is it? Media always has to find that 'something else' to blame.

Reddit managed to stay relatively civil yesterday mainly because I think mods there were forced to start banning people right and left for their vile behavior.

But today? Here’s a breakdown:

“This really wasn’t an assassination attempt you know. Trump was ‘only’ wounded with shards of glass and not hit by a bullet so it doesn’t count.”

“This was all staged by the Trump campaign.”

Many Redditors today: “I’m only sorry that the guy missed, I’m not sorry for Donald Trump. He had it coming.”

What a toxic, vile cesspool of liberal filth. This is the perfect place to see the true mindset of your typical leftist.

If it weren’t for some useful subs there, I’d already have bailed on that place.

The only thing I have to look forward to is watching these shitheads melt down in November when Trump wins again.