The swamp persists....

The business of elected and tax payer funded officials should never be secret, especially the votes of a supposed representative of the people.

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
We all know how well secret voting works.
I voted, but do to secrecy I don’t know if my vote was adjudicated from Trump to Biden or not.

Secretly those 61 should be Primaried out along with the other 146.
We have no way of knowing who the 61 good guys are so let’s be safe and get rid of them all.

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"so let’s be safe and get rid of them all."

Works for me. Yes, we have a couple(!) of good ones there. Those can run to replace their current positions.

There is something to be said for gassing the entire house to get rid of the roaches!

I cannot wait until the impeachment farce is over.

I hope President Trump awakens from his much deserved winter slumber and comes out dropping bombs on everyone.

ALL
OF
THEM

I am personally done with the republican party and may never vote again for anyone calling themselves a republican. Let the dems have it all and destroy the country. It's bound to happen at some point and the faster it happens, the sooner we can establish America 2.0

Still hoping that the President's decision not to start a 3rd party was just a "place holder" until the impeachment was over.

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I am personally done with the republican party and may never vote again for anyone calling themselves a republican. Let the dems have it all and destroy the country. It's bound to happen at some point and the faster it happens, the sooner we can establish America 2.0

I understand your anger.
But... that's exactly what the Dems. want. If they get enough people to walk away and stop voting, they won't even have to cheat to win.
America is still worth fighting for.

You know what chemllin1?

It may be what the dems want, but it sure appears that the republicans, through their words and actions, want the same GD thing.

They have abandoned us. Except for a very few, the republicans do not want our vote, or to win or to lead this nation to prosperity. It has always been this way, they are just now open about it and flaunting it.

Nope... Unless I can vote for Jim Jordan (I can't where I am at) or another equally strong constitutionalist, then I am out.

Bring on the 3rd party President Trump... It will be much more successful than people want us to believe.

Don’t stop voting, it only helps the Dems, the next 2 years should be spent finding replacements for the RINOS, and voteing them in. Trump said he planned on helping the Republican Party for the next election. I’m reading that to mean Finding RINO replacements. It’s our party, time to take it back, and staff it with winners for a change.

I will vote to primary every last republican I can, but only if the primary opponent is on par with President Trump.

That is the only exception to my current stance that I can imagine right now.

This Lis Cheney BS and the other 9 turncoats has soured me to the point of saying F@$K IT. Let's burn this Mother F@$ker Down! I mean... It worked well for the other side.

Yes... America is good and worth fighting for, but the election box is no longer a fair fight and we may need to resort to other tactics to get our wins.

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Originally posted by bozman:
I cannot wait until the impeachment farce is over.

I hope President Trump awakens from his much deserved winter slumber and comes out dropping bombs on everyone.

ALL
OF
THEM

I am personally done with the republican party and may never vote again for anyone calling themselves a republican. Let the dems have it all and destroy the country. It's bound to happen at some point and the faster it happens, the sooner we can establish America 2.0

Still hoping that the President's decision not to start a 3rd party was just a "place holder" until the impeachment was over.

Of coarse that's your choice. I considered returning my next absentee ballot blank and scribbled with a notation to fill in the blanks with whatever the democrats want. But that reminded me of a person who wants their account 'deleted' on SIGforum because something didn't go their way.

It serves no real purpose other than venting your frustration. You're doing what the democrats hope will happen...less conservatives voting.

I'll vote for my candidates AND put a nasty note in the envelope.

You folks do realize that a significant number of these "votes" in Congress are orchestrated?

Bad guy this time, good guy next time, you take the hit this time, etc.

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:
You folks do realize that a significant number of these "votes" in Congress are orchestrated?

Bad guy this time, good guy next time, you take the hit this time, etc.

I have been nursing that suspicion for about 10 years. Theater for the masses is all it probably is.

Exactly... It is all a show that Trump was exposing.

I hope he comes out breathing fire and naming names. He does not have to placate any of these bastards any more and his base will only grow stronger because of it.

I think the President is the most influential politician in the world who does not officially hold an office at this moment. Never has a retired President been this powerful. I hope he wields it like a Norse God.

I will follow the man almost anywhere.

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:
You folks do realize that a significant number of these "votes" in Congress are orchestrated?

Bad guy this time, good guy next time, you take the hit this time, etc.

It’s either time to close the theater down or get a whole new slate of actors. Enough is enough.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:

It’s either time to close the theater down or get a whole new slate of actors. Enough is enough.

At it's most basic level, Marxism is about tearing everything, repeat everything down, rebuilding a pretend brave new world created by out betters.

Our present day one-party system is setting the table for a complete national collapse. If that blank slate is created, there will be two choices, a proven system of government based on our Constitution or an insane world of unicorns. We'll have to be the ones to pick up the pieces, we better be prepared to do so.

We've heard too many times that socialism has a history of failure because the "right" people never implemented it, implying there are people of wisdom and good-will that'll make it work.

Those right people don't exist but the are people existing today who are prepared to rule, a suffocating media oligarchy that has intruded into all our lives. They are the enemy to be overcome.

I was right there with bozman. Pissed at the GOP for hanging Trump out to dry. I still am, but when Trump announced that he was dropping the 3rd party idea and instead is going to work to help them take back the house next year....that spoke volumes about him. I too will follow him to the end of the earth, and I’ll follow him here. I’ll give support back to the GOP, but only to help Trump do what he says he’s going to do. We need to get the RINOs and other turncoats out of there ASAP. It’s the only hope we have to stopping this radical agenda of Biden’s (or whomever is controlling him, rather) in the next two years.

Largefarva...

Like I said, I hope his statement about supporting the republicans and not starting a 3rd party was a "place holder" to see how the republicans performed leading up to and including the impeachment votes.

I hope that he "circles back" on that statement when the masturbatory impeachment fap show is over and he is found not guilty.

He could easily, without being a hypocrite, decide at the end of the impeachment that the party is lost and no amount of work he could do would fix it. For that reason, the only way forward would be establishing a 3rd party.

I know it may be a pipe dream that never materializes, but dreams are part of what established this big, crazy country.

Yeah I know exactly what you’re saying, and its why I didn’t try to guilt you into voting GOP if you don’t want to. I was just giving my point of view, and that is if Trump can give support to help the GOP then I can too. But that’s the only condition that I’ll do it.

If he decides to do what you’re suggesting, which is a possibility, then I’ll follow as well. I have since stopped receiving GOP fund raising emails after sending a couple of scathing replies to them stating they will not get one fucking penny from me after hanging Trump out to dry. That still stands until we know Trump’s end game here.

They are scared shitless right now because they know how much power he has, his support gets stronger by the day. It’s amazing to me to see what is happening regarding this.

Yep... You and I are on the same page.

I will only vote for a republican if they are fully espousing Trumpian philosophies and in the mold of Trump.

I have been saying this since the election. Having an "R" after you name no longer guarantees my vote.

If a candidate cannot prove this through action and their record, then F them... I will assume they are simply giving lip service to Trump's supporters with no intention of governing as such.

Trump could do to the Republican party, like what the Bolsheviks did to Petra Kelly's Green Party in West Germany. The reds basically took the party away from her and really made it the red party, under the green party name.

Trump has done so nearly with the Republican party as of now. He took the party from the Neo-Con Never Trumpers and right now Trump has a strangle hold on the party with what 72+ percent support?

Third Party is doable, but using the same basic approach that the reds did to the green party in West Germany, also makes sense.

The 'purge' of the new-cons / never trumpets from the republican party, will be the equivalent to the purge of the blue dog democrats (Reagan Democrats) by the democrats in the 90's under Clinton and company.

Obama seemed pretty powerful ex-president, running a coup against a sitting president as we have witnessed.