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Originally posted by gw3971:
Benny 6, Good question. Where do we go from here? Something I have been wondering for a week. Since it appears Biden is out next president(God help us) what do we do next. Republicans appear to be willing to capitulate and allow the dems to have their way with us. I guess that is nothing new. I have been working to get out of debt. I have hoarded ammo for the last four years in case this shit show occurred. I have been planning on higher taxes etc.... But politically where do we go? New Party or reforming the old? I don't know. Curious what others think?

Even worse, Biden won’t last 2 years before the demands of the office take him out. Think about that.

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How do we unite and take our country back? How do we defeat the establishment run media?

Great questions. No easy answers.

SEN. JOSH HAWLEY: "We do need an investigation into irregularities, fraud. We do need a way forward together. We need election security reforms."

That would be a start.

gw3971,

I think a new Party is required... but only if a huge percentage of registered Repubs will convert, a groundswell can be created against the media and efficient/honest election processes were put in place.

I think it may be possible given the series of events we've witnessed, but who the fuck knows with the Commies in charge and it's one hell of a mountain to climb. There's no time to lose as two years will go by in the blink of an eye.

Were it up to me, I'd call the new party... Patriots for America or simply the America First Party

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Originally posted by aparoche:

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Originally posted by coloradohunter44:

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Originally posted by gw3971:
McCarthy just said we need to unite. I guess he forgot what the dems did over the last four years to the republicans. Not a word from the democrats on election hearings... Of course its the republicans who need to change.

Swamp creature. Screw him. Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz are the only two I'd let in my home. And Gaetz is questionable with his soon to be bride.

What is so questionable about his soon to be bride? Gaetz is 38 and his fiancé is 26. Trump is 74 and Melania is 50. My father is 10 years older than my mother. I am previously divorced from a woman 9 years my senior but I am now 41 and currently dating a 29 year old. Many women like older men. This is nothing new.

Did I say anything about her age? NO. Look at her family ties. Then come back n we'll visit. K

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Originally posted by Jimineer:

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Originally posted by gw3971:
Benny 6, Good question. Where do we go from here? Something I have been wondering for a week. Since it appears Biden is out next president(God help us) what do we do next. Republicans appear to be willing to capitulate and allow the dems to have their way with us. I guess that is nothing new. I have been working to get out of debt. I have hoarded ammo for the last four years in case this shit show occurred. I have been planning on higher taxes etc.... But politically where do we go? New Party or reforming the old? I don't know. Curious what others think?

Even worse, Biden won’t last 2 years before the demands of the office take him out. Think about that.

Eh, maybe. I think there’s a fair chance he stays for the whole thing, unless it looks like he might lose re-election in which case I think there’s a good chance he resigns so that Kamala gets to be all historic and whatnot.

The reasonable answer is you have to get involved on the local level. No more lukewarm political candidates.

Each of these problems we face start at the local level.

If you live in a place where there is no chance of taking the majority, you need to move to someplace that you can shore up a supermajority.

In many places, even conservative holds, Democrats run for local offices unopposed. That has to stop, right down to the dog catcher.

It may not seem like much, and it certainly isn’t the answer for places like Atlanta, but if you look at the rest of GA, if we elect fighters to the rest of the state, they won’t roll over and show their under belly.

We need people ghat will actually fight for us. In the absence of that, nothing will change.

Did I just hear Shannon Bream say the attempt to block the certification in Congress failed? Surely not.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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How do we unite and take our country back? How do we defeat the establishment run media?

Great questions. No easy answers.

Stop watching. Stop clicking. They need to sell ads. If the ratings tank, they’re done.

Think about this. How many people actually show up for Trump? They showed up because he's not the GOP. I don't know anyone who voted for the GOP. They all voted for Trump. And the establishment sees his support and they shudder. They shudder because they fear what we are capable of if we can be united.

The GOP was the poisoned pill that sabotaged this election. Sure, dems interfered as well, but we had lots of republicans in places of authority that could have done the right thing. Even Pence failed us. If the republicans were even half as united as the dems, we would have overturned this election easily.

We don't need the parasite that is the GOP when we start over. I left the GOP in 2015 under Ryan, and I never went back to them. I knew who they were all along. There are some good guys in the GOP, but they will follow us to another party.

And let's not ignore how divided the democrats are as well.

Tony.

Democrats today asserted WITH NO EVIDENCE that President Trump conspired with his supporters on the storming of the Capitol. They also asserted WITH NO EVIDENCE that he was mentally unfit to perform his duties as President.

That's about right, no?

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Originally posted by jljones:
The reasonable answer is you have to get involved on the local level. No more lukewarm political candidates.

Each of these problems we face start at the local level.

If you live in a place where there is no chance of taking the majority, you need to move to someplace that you can shore up a supermajority.

In many places, even conservative holds, Democrats run for local offices unopposed. That has to stop, right down to the dog catcher.

It may not seem like much, and it certainly isn’t the answer for places like Atlanta, but if you look at the rest of GA, if we elect fighters to the rest of the state, they won’t roll over and show their under belly.

We need people ghat will actually fight for us. In the absence of that, nothing will change.

Very well said.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
I drink water from the stream, with the cup of my hand...

Cruz right now is the only guy in the GOP that is worth a shit. His actions in support of Trump despite the primary battles between them speaks volumes. Right now he is the only one with whom I hold a favorable opinion.

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Originally posted by coloradohunter44:

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Originally posted by gw3971:
McCarthy just said we need to unite. I guess he forgot what the dems did over the last four years to the republicans. Not a word from the democrats on election hearings... Of course its the republicans who need to change.

Swamp creature. Screw him. Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz are the only two I'd let in my home. And Gaetz is questionable with his soon to be bride.

What is so questionable about his soon to be bride? Gaetz is 38 and his fiancé is 26. Trump is 74 and Melania is 50. My father is 10 years older than my mother. I am previously divorced from a woman 9 years my senior but I am now 41 and currently dating a 29 year old. Many women like older men. This is nothing new.

Did I say anything about her age? NO. Look at her family ties. Then come back n we'll visit. K

Yes, she must be evil because her family has ties to Facebook! I wonder how many people she has committed fraud against or killed at the ripe young age of 26? She must be an evil witch in disguise.

I think we need to go work in the voting systems. Here in Utah most of these people are volunteers helping a couple of paid employees. Mainly to keep an eye on what happens in the polls. Most of these people doing the work during elections are blue haired, pony tailed, sandal and socks wearing types. Yeah I am not sure I trust them. Liberals would jump off cliffs for their beliefs. I guess I can get off the couch next election. Maybe if we took part as a party it would help safe guard or elections.

Yep... the republican party is dead.

And I am not sure elections are even worth it anymore.

The revolution has started. We had the shot heard round the world version 2.0 today (my opinion).

The number of forum members packing mags tonight and cleaning rifles should say something to all of us.

Remember the Biden/Harris platform. At the very top of the list is gun confiscation/buy backs. If you do not voluntarily allow the government to buy your guns, then you will be a felon. Now I am not saying that I am putting on my plates tonight to "go get some", but if they make me a felon and try to confiscate my property then that is that.

Who knows... Maybe something will happen before they get to that. Maybe there is a skirmish somewhere, and then another, and so on. It would not take much for this to go fully kinetic.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Excellent post. Consider, we have an administration ready to be sworn in that is the most liberal, anti-American, anti-Constitution group in history. When they take what happened today and opt to overreach and pass legislation to further restrict or remove our rights (after all they are liberal retards), what we saw today will look like a Boy Scout Jamboree. Today only scratched the surface on what I foreseen is coming. And the Repubs, with their cowardice and disdain for us on display today, have earned their own share of the backlash that's coming.

You're correct. And look where the ultra-Left House members from the "Squad" ended up after voting for for Pelosi as Chair.... Committee leadership positions.

It seems that members of Trump's cabinet are resigning already. The rats are jumping ship. Its beyond tragic that the greatest President of the last 100 years is being treated like a pariah. Damn them all to hell, I've never felt such hatred toward people before.

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Originally posted by Largefarva:
Cruz right now is the only guy in the GOP that is worth a shit. His actions in support of Trump despite the primary battles between them speaks volumes. Right now he is the only one with whom I hold a favorable opinion.

It's also a good idea to come up with a list of acceptable (swamp free, non-idiots) people from the GOP to take into a new party. I figure that will be a shorter list to work with than a ban list. Surely at least some people that would be put forth are debatable.

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Also key to this comment is there are 12 voting districts across many of the states you mentioned that every polling...

Great point, Mike.

Also the bellweather counties, Trump won 19 of the 20, which essentially guarantees the win. The same with winning Florida and Ohio. Winning those 2 states has guaranteed a win all but twice since 1896, 124 years.

https://flashnewss.net/2020/11...trumpand-biden-wins/



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