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I understand why someone in GA wouldn’t vote. The outcome is illegitimate. The two R’s are never Trump rino’s. But the thing is rigged for them to lose. Filing papers in court won’t accomplish anything. SCOTUS made it clear which side they are on. Nobody should still be looking at this as D’s vs R’s. This is about China and outside groups with big money staging a coup, warfare without firing a shot, color revolution where our government is compromised top to bottom, including 90% of elected officials. So why keep clinging to and hoping for process, law, and procedures to work in your favor when they don’t matter? | |||
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semi-reformed sailor |
Can the electoral college vote they way they want to, or are the y tied to the popular vote in their state? "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Frankly, they can vote anyway they want. But it is the legislature who chooses the set of electors who go and vote. If they choose the democrat set, which could have a Hillary Clinton as the elector for instance, I highly doubt she would vote for Trump if you get my drift. But I guess nothing is really stopping her. Though some states may have laws that fine or even jail faithless electors. That doesn't change their votes however. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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It's not you, it's me. |
I still fully believe Trump is gonna win. | |||
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If I could legally vote in Georgia, I would drive there from Southern Illinois to cast a vote in the runoff election-it is that important! President Trump has campaigned for these people. Consider the alternative. Anybody want to give Biden/Harris full control? | |||
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wishing we were congress |
listen to Biden in a recent Zoom call w black "leaders" https://www.powerlineblog.com/...-after-january-5.php video at link really recommend people watch this Warns blacks to keep things low key till after the Georgia run off elections "I just raise it with you to think about how much do we push between now and January 5 — we need those two seats — about police reform." "But I guarantee you, there will be a full-blown commission. I guarantee you it’s a major, major, major element." Just don’t talk about it until January 6. xxxxxxxxx this should be a major REP campaign ad what a lying snake | |||
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Bottom line is, that it is up to the state legislatures in their respective disputed states. They have the Federal constitutional power to appoint electors to the Electoral college. Now, do they have the stomach to do so, when they see the fraud / legal violations on the vote within their states? Lastly, on SCOTUS. I feel the majority of SCOTUS justices agree with our view, but, feel that there is a remedy to the issue without them getting involved. State legislatures have the sole right to run the elections within their state for federal elections. I think Thomas and Alito nearly said so, without being direct. I'm not sure if SCOTUS could just outright say it - 'Follow the Constitution regarding federal elections within your states, you dimwitted legislators'. Only state legislatures can affect a remedy the courts do not want to touch. We'll see what happens 12/14/2020 and then again on 1/6/2021. Then on 1/20/2021 12:01:01 EST the real fun starts. -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master. Ayn Rand "He gains votes ever and anew by taking money from everybody and giving it to a few, while explaining that every penny was extracted from the few to be giving to the many." Ogden Nash from his poem - The Politician | |||
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wishing we were congress |
President Trump: IF Biden gets in, nothing will happen to Hunter or Joe. Barr will do nothing, and the new group of partisan killers coming in will quickly kill it all. Same thing with Durham. We caught them cold, spying, treason & more (the hard part), but “Justice” took too long. Will be DOA! The Supreme Court had ZERO interest in the merits of the greatest voter fraud ever perpetrated on the United States of America. All they were interested in is “standing”, which makes it very difficult for the President to present a case on the merits. 75,000,000 votes! Why didn’t Bill Barr reveal the truth to the public, before the Election, about Hunter Biden. Joe was lying on the debate stage that nothing was wrong, or going on - Press confirmed. Big disadvantage for Republicans at the polls! | |||
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Counting on state appointed electors is the thinnest of hopes. As far as the Supreme Court goes that is about the strongest of rebukes you could get. Even Alito and Thomas said although they think it should have at least been heard they would not grant any relief. In hindsight the Texas suit never stood a chance. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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I understand the concern some of you have that voting doesn’t matter. But just because you are afraid the election will be stolen isn’t a good excuse to just give it away. Make them lie and cheat. Eventually maybe they will mess up so bad that the cheating is undeniable. Plus, the more they cheat the more people that have to know. “Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014 | |||
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When Texas filed suit for remedies did they forget that Gov. Abbott proclaimed early voting and mail in ballots to be extended. There seems to be a conflict here. | |||
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Ammoholic |
Catching up on the thread huh? alptraum posted this at the bottom of page 520 yesterday at 10:09 AM. Yes, this thread did move a bit yesterday... | |||
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You mean like... NOW? The eventually is here and now and there seems to be no stomach to even acknowledge it must less do anything about it. At least by the powers that be. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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Not your average kind of girl |
Thanks for this. Needed a moment yesterday to reset the sails. It is not over not by a long shot. And, whatever happens WE stand together in this. If it won't matter in 5 years don't give it more than 5 minutes. | |||
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Leatherneck |
That’s no reason for us to give up. The powers that be are only in power if we let them be. It’s clear some of the folks in this thread have given up. That’s fine. I just wish they’d do the rest of us a favor and give up silently and stop broadcasting their submission. “Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014 | |||
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I have a very particular set of skills |
First, DJT isn't 'going to win,' he did win. What we're watching is that Win being stolen in broad daylight, right in front of our face. Tell a lie big enough and often enough, and people will believe it. SCOTUS (and everyone else involved) at this point is trying to put a 'lid' on exposing how bad the theft is. They didn't want to hear the case because the d@mning evidence would be exposed on a national stage. Can't let that happen. 'Quiet, stop talking about it, bury it, run out the clock, shoehorn them in, remove him...install her, attach puppet strings...done.' As said before, if they succeed, we're an absolute laughing stock of the world...that a person who got their ass absolutely handed to them in the primaries winds up POTUS. That takes ALOT of deep state/big $$ to happen. The 'consolation' I'm trying to keep in mind is the down ballot...we picked up what, 12 seats in the house? The 'blue wave' got crushed. That's a very big 'America ain't liking what you're shoveling' to the Dems, and as goals #1-#10 of any politician is 'Get elected/re-elected,' they might start whistling a different tune if they want to stay at the trough.' We are definitely at the precipice tho. $.02 worth, Boss A real life Sisyphus... "It's not the critic who counts..." TR Exodus 23.2: Do not follow the crowd in doing wrong... Despite some people's claims to the contrary, 5 lbs. is actually different than 12 lbs. It's never simple/easy. | |||
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Didn’t really understand the Alito/Thomas comment. Did they mean that they just wouldn’t grant any temporary injunction while the case was heard, or that they were willing to hear the case, but it wasn’t going to be successful in the end anyway? | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
That last was my interpretation. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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If you are referring to me as to someone who is giving up and submitting please show me where I have said as much. Recognizing the reality of the situation is not equivalent to giving up. Remaining ignorant and paying silence to it serves no purpose. If you think it is then you must think Trump has given up because you can be sure he realizes the reality of the situation. If our votes are rendered null and void we have no say in who the powers to be are. They are chosen for us just like what they are trying to do now. As someone else here said avoiding reality does not prevent it from happening it just makes you unprepared for it. When and if Trump concedes is when it's over. My personal opinion is he will invoke the insurrection before he concedes. This is not over. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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