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Unflappable Enginerd |
I'm actually curious to hear how the jury instruction shakes out. Seems to me Merchan will have to include the laws that were broken in the instructions and I'm not convinced that will end up being all that clear. Likely his last chance to manipulate the trial, guess we'll see. __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Alan Dershowitz Op-Ed today:
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Baroque Bloke |
^^^^^ Thank you for that post, PASig. Serious about crackers | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Incredible. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1792938444273963335 ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Well that's cute. Was the FBI expecting to get into a gun battle (a FIRE FIGHT!) with the Secret Service? Just what type of resistance did they think they might encounter? https://x.com/gatewaypundit/st.../1793003717542764831 https://x.com/julie_kelly2/status/1792969008657948733 ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Biden's Praetorian Guard and NKVD stooping to new lows. Nothing shocks me any longer with this illegitimate regime occupying the WH. | |||
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For reasons I can not delve into here, this does not surprise me at all. This space intentionally left blank. | |||
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Never miss an opportunity to be Batman! |
The jury instructions will be very interesting. Knowingly how this Judge has acted and ruled so far, this will be the first time a jury will be told via the instructions that the Defendant NOT testifying CAN and SHOULD be held against him, making his entire defense not credible. As far as the FBI getting in a gunfight with the Secret Service, the FBI would have to use massive overwhelming force, including an attack helicopter and explosives, to have a chance. Those Secret Service Agents can shoot (as long as they are not the DEI hires guarding Kackles Harris). | |||
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Political Cynic |
I sincerely hope that someone is keeping a list of names. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
There's no there there: | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
I been fortunate enough to meet Donald Trump (twice at the same event), and have conversation(s) w/ him when he filed w/ the Secretary of State for the NH Primary last fall. He has multiple Secret Service Agents like this guy around him...I'm not sure where thy conceal their weapons, but they are SERIOUSLY 'Armed'! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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would not care to elaborate |
judge goes for the stall tactic. they could easily have had a verdict by noon on friday | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Alan Dershowitz was in the courtroom when the judge lost his shit. Dershowitz was not there in an official capacity. He was sitting in the front row when the judge cleared the courtroom and says that for whatever reason, he- Dershowitz- and three or four other people sitting next to him were not asked to leave when the court was cleared. He doesn't think the judge recognized him, but Dershowitz instead thinks he may have just been overlooked. Who knows with this whacko judge. Anyway, this video is a half hour long, but I've got it queued up to the part where Dershowitz is relating this remarkable story about how egregious is this judge's behavior. If not a hung jury or an outright acquittal, this case should be quickly overturned on appeal, but, it's New York, so... Have a listen. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Irksome Whirling Dervish |
I'm not getting too worked up over the deadly force authorization for the search warrant execution. My SO participates in search and arrest warrants and deadly force is always on the table, if necessary. As SOP, the search and arrest teams are always armed. I would be very dubious of claims that the FBI op plan had language that said, "It's President Trump's house. In this case, we authorize deadly force." The FBI didn't go out of their way and authorize force that isn't routinely authorized on all other warrants. | |||
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This wasn’t a routine warrant, this was an ex-President; a warrant that has never been done in the history of our country. Deadly force shouldn’t have been on the table at all. You’re trying to justify and rationalize the most egregious abuse of LE in my lifetime. There is zero reason the agents should have been armed, I don’t care what your SO does with the local crackheads. This was an unprecedented situation and clearly political. Was deadly force authorized for the early morning armed FBI raid on Biden’s garage or Hilary’s illegal email server? Oh wait, they never raided those compounds. If you see any possible justification in these actions you are blind to the corruption and hypocrisy. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Yes it was boiler plate, standard to all of these types of warrants. Except this was on a former President. Even if they knew Trump wasn't going to be there, the raid itself was extraordinary. To treat it just like any other is ridiculous IMO. https://x.com/dbongino/status/1793069975927705781 This is absolutely a big deal. Don’t buy the bullshit otherwise. It was not a standard op. The MAL raid was an unprecedented action with significant potential for confusion and blue on blue issues and conflict. It also involved competing equities between federal agencies (FBI & USSS) with equal statutory claims to interrupt the other’s activities. Anyone telling you otherwise is either dumb, or playing dumb. I’ve done more deconfliction with Russians in a foreign op I did for the USSS than the FBI did in their search warrant at MAL. Only a dumbass would pitch the “it’s the standard paperwork” line. Go serve a search warrant at the White House in the cocaine case while filling out your “standard paperwork” and see how that works out for you. Wake up. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Help! Help! I'm being repressed! |
@Flashlightboy Agreed. I've participated in a small number of warrant executions. I wouldn't participate in a warrant service if I was told under no circumstance are you allowed to defend yourself. ETA: But I also agree it should have never gotten to this point. | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
This was a documents case. Not a drug case, assault, probation violation, etc. It was not in Compton, International Blvd in Oakland, etc. It was at Mar-A-Lago. And it wasn't a cartel member, a known violent felon, a gang member. It was the f*cking former President of the United States. Anybody who thinks this was routine is a fucking moron. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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Irksome Whirling Dervish |
Resorting to name calling only emphasizes that you know little about warrant execution. There are no Ops Plans for warrant execution that say, "We don't anticipate trouble so let's leave the guns behind on this one." There is always a threat assessment in executing the warrant and that's why deadly force is authorized in the ops plan. It's not inserted, depending on the person or location. While the entire documents case is BS and was undoubtedly done with WH coordination, the fact that the agents were armed means nothing in the context of the warrant. Agents are always armed whether it's in the office, driving their BuCar or in the field. In the field they do interviews - armed. They do knock and talks - armed. Warrant executions - armed. | |||
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Maybe I've gotten really liberal since leaving Police work and becoming a lawyer, but I'm sure the SAC or ASAC of the FBI with the warrant, could've called the SAC or ASAC of USSS detail to former President Trump and said we have a warrant will be by at 9am? Must be me. | |||
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