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Didn’t really understand the Alito/Thomas comment. Did they mean that they just wouldn’t grant any temporary injunction while the case was heard, or that they were willing to hear the case, but it wasn’t going to be successful in the end anyway? | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
That last was my interpretation. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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If you are referring to me as to someone who is giving up and submitting please show me where I have said as much. Recognizing the reality of the situation is not equivalent to giving up. Remaining ignorant and paying silence to it serves no purpose. If you think it is then you must think Trump has given up because you can be sure he realizes the reality of the situation. If our votes are rendered null and void we have no say in who the powers to be are. They are chosen for us just like what they are trying to do now. As someone else here said avoiding reality does not prevent it from happening it just makes you unprepared for it. When and if Trump concedes is when it's over. My personal opinion is he will invoke the insurrection before he concedes. This is not over. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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A Grateful American |
A comparison. Exodus 17:1-13 Moses has brought the Israelites from Egypt to the Sinai desert. They are tired, hungry, thirsty and disenchanted and ready to eliminate Moses and, likely, head back to Egypt. God has provided Mana and Quail to eat, but might as well have been MRE's for it appeal. Now they are thirsty, so God instructs Moses to strikes the rock with the staff he had used to bring plagues to Egypt and out flowed water. Then they find themselves in a war with the Amalekites, and Moses stands, lifts his hands to the heavens and the Isrealites prevail, when he becomes weary, and his hands lower, the Amalekites prevail. This goes in a bit, and then Hur and Aaron seat Moses on a rock, and hold his hands up until the Israelites are victorious. So, now the comparison. Trump has led us out of the "Egypt" that the Obama rule had for eight years, as well as the many years prior by both the left and the right leadership, in effect, enslaving the people. We found ourselves in wilderness of sorts, with all the crap the GDCs continued to sling at Trump (and us), and the lack or even TDS from the right and in our midst (like the Erev Rav, the "mixed multitude" that came out with the Israelites, to vex them and whine and work against the effort of Moses and the will of the people to follow him) for the past four years. Leaving us "hungered, thirsty and weary". And now, War. So, we voted for Trump the first time, and then many sat back, as followers, expecting him to "do all the work", and many pissed and moaned about all manner of things for the past four years. And time to re-elect, and still people piss and moan about how Trump "speaks", and seldom stop and show gratitude for the many things he has done, in effect, blaming him for the place we find ourselves, (facing the Amalekites in battle) as if his tweets and other things are why he "did not have victory". So, now, in battle, he has done all he can to support us in this fight, because this fight is ours. He gets weary, and who will "hold up his hands" that we will prevail? If you have belief in God, then are you continually "holding his hands up" in prayer? Or are you as those that peeped and muttered, and spoke against Moses, in effect, demoralizing the people, and all the negative thoughts, deeds and what not, that go hand in hand? Seeing and hearing people's response, before a true "shot is fired", it becomes clear that a great many will fail to stand in a real and actual confrontation. I know. I have been down this road, and I have seen the same thing in people. If you do not believe in the cause of Freedom and Liberty, to the point of doing and giving all that it takes, then please move aside and be quiet. If you do, you are my brother or sister. It is nowhere near "over". Nope. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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The Swamp has total control of our country to the point they can do this in broad daylight. Sure, we keep going with the courts, but they have the game rigged. Tech and the media will cover it all up like it never happened. People who could help would rather keep their heads down. That doesn't mean it's over, but it's hard to win a fixed game. Not impossible. | |||
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Make America Great Again |
A few additional comments after "sleeping on" the latest news, and reading all the most recent updates/posts... 1) First and foremost, I have not given up. Trump has not conceded, and OBiden has not been sworn into office, so the fight is still on! My hopes have dimmed considerably, but I have not given up ALL hope yet. 2) Secondly, I also like to plan ahead to the best of my ability... if nothing more than figuring out what to possibly expect. What I do see happening, and am surprised nobody else has even mentioned the possibility of, is if the GDC do take the White House and "We the people" choose to not accept it, how will The People organize themselves for the battle? The internet of course, and freedom-loving websites like this one. Does ANYONE truly believe the GDCs will not take control of and shut down our only means of communication and organization??? With few exceptions, we as a forum are scattered all over the nation; indeed the world. Without the internet and forums like this one, how do we organize? I have zero idea how it could be affected, and I'm hoping many of you who are much smarter and more strategic than I can come up with a solution while we still can. If we are to organize, it must be done now while we can still communicate as a large group. Ideas? Comments? Should I just go pound sand because I'm bonkers??? _____________________________ Bill R. North Alabama | |||
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Well I sure as hell haven't given up and I see only a few of us who have (mostly those members that have shown themselves to be RINO's, trolls and agitators). Stating fact and realizing the doors are closing quickly is not giving up. We are potentially in a transition from working within the current system or having to invoke parts of the Constitution that I thought we would never have to invoke. Discussing this is not "giving up" or "throwing in the towel" or whatever euphemism you want to use. It is the discussion necessary to prepare for and to invoke those clauses. I am ready to leave my family, walk away from a very comfortable life and everything I have worked for to take up a rifle. This is not giving up.This message has been edited. Last edited by: bozman, The "Boz" | |||
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Even the 'leaders' in that video look like they're wondering why they're wasting their time listening to that corrupt fool. He can't complete a full sentence. | |||
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| Lighten up and laugh |
https://noqreport.com/2020/12/...-still-going-to-win/ | |||
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Spiritually Imperfect |
You’re a little too far out in the future, bud. Why manufacture your own misery like this? We need you here, in the present. | |||
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| Leatherneck |
If I was referring to you I would have said “you” instead of “some people” and “they”. I write what I mean. “Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014 | |||
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| Freethinker |
I do not interpret the word “battle” as you and many others here evidently do. I strongly doubt we will see any sort of battle that fits my definition—and which I am familiar with—and as a consequence “when all is said and done, far more is said than done.” ► 6.4/93.6 | |||
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| Make America Great Again |
While I respect your opinion, I'm not convinced I'm any further into the future than I should be at this point! January 20th is only slightly more than a month away, and at the rate things are going, time to overturn this debacle of an election is growing VERY slim. I like to believe that I am only considering the alternatives, and TRYING to plan accordingly! Waiting on the door to slam shut before you attempt to go out of it does not sound very wise to me. Just my opinion... _____________________________ Bill R. North Alabama | |||
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| Nullus Anxietas |
Were it to come to that, they wouldn't shut it down. They'd use it as an information source. There's a series my wife and I started watching on Netflix: Designated Survivor. (More on that elsewhere.) In it there's an organization of the kind to which you're referring. They're off the grid entirely. No Internet. No smart phones. They use no credit cards. Low-tech, off-the-radar entirely. That would be the only way to achieve that which you describe. And, of course, even then you can have moles. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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| Make America Great Again |
My use of the term "battle" is open to readers interpreting however they want. It could be a physical war-time battle, it could be a battle in the courts, it could be a battle of words, it could be simply moving to where more like-minded people are and starting over; your choice on how you wish to read it. Edit to add: And just for the record, my health has declined to the point where taking up arms and going into "battle" with my rifle is no longer an option. The best I can hope for is to hunker down and defend my home and family to the best of my ability, or until the ammo runs out. _____________________________ Bill R. North Alabama | |||
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The ambiguity of the keyboard and usage of terminology leaves much to interpretation of meanings and context. No worries my friend. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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Your entire post is extremely appreciated, monkey. I grew up in the church and know just about every passage of the Torah. I bolded the part I did because it reminded me of Patrick Henry's quote ending with, "Give me Liberty of give me death." Now, that's the kind of commitment I think you're talking about. Amen! Of all the enemies that the American citizen faces, the Democrat Party is the very worst. | |||
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| Freethinker |
That is true of many of us, but not some of us if they really wanted to engage in that sort of battle. When all is said and done, though—and even by them—far more will be said than done. And for the record, it would be physically possible for me to take up arms to go into battle as I define it, but what I don’t do is talk about it when the who and where to fight questions are simply fantasies. ► 6.4/93.6 | |||
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Thank you, both. I am my monkey's brother!!! | |||
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I used to hear the phrase often, "Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle!" It looks now like the monkey has a lot of brothers, while the uncle count is still unknown.  God bless America. | |||
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