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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Georgia Monitor Catches 9,626-Vote Error in Hand Recount

Wow... that "Error" alone makes it extremely close.
It's very likely that Georgia flips to Trump based on all that's being found.

I just read the affidavit signed by the R. monitor. Looks like the correction is 2 votes and not 9600

Midwest Guy...

I think you need to read that again.

That is not what I am reading. The box total and count total were 2 off. The box did not contain 10,000 votes for either side.

Link to the affidavit:Affidavit

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Originally posted by RichardC:
Another fraggin' bombshell?

This time it's a smoking gun.

Reading more of this brazen crap makes me mad enough to bite the head off a ten penny nail.

If I had a lawyer, they would advise me not to comment further on any of this in my present state, so I won't.

I dont think this is a surprise, given that the PA supreme court ruled it was OK for Gauleiter Wolf to ILLEGALLY (only state legislature can do this legally) change the voting regulations.

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Originally posted by Ackks:

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Lin Wood
@LLinWood
Twitter is removing My Followers so please share that users need to make sure they have not been removed.

I am also on Parler with account names linwood.
https://twitter.com/LLinWood/s.../1329125492356763652

Also, "holding Tuesday that the law did not specify that observers had to be close enough to see details."

What in the Sam Hill??? This is what PA has to offer as the highest court in the state? That is like saying a jury doesn't need to hear what is being said during a trial. Get the heck out.

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It’s rapidly approaching the point where the people are going to rescind their consent to be governed.

And when government refuses to uphold its own laws, then the people withdraw their consent; and the next step is vigilantism and anarchy, which really isn’t all that different from each other.

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Originally posted by bozman:
Midwest Guy...

I think you need to read that again.

That is not what I am reading. The box total and count total were 2 off. The box did not contain 10,000 votes for either side.

Link to the affidavit:Affidavit

Thanks for that point, however that affidavit was on 11/16 and subsequent statements by Dekalb county states the correct number as 2 votes .

I think that we are nearly there, esp in Blue states.

The Portsmouth VA chief of police lost her job for enforcing the law against people vandalizing a Confederate monument by a group that included a VA state legislator...

The charges were also thrown out by a local judge.

If we're not nearly at the point of selective enforcement of laws based on political affiliation, someone please remind me what that looks like. It sickens me.

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Originally posted by 2BobTanner:

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It’s rapidly approaching the point where the people are going to rescind their consent to be governed.

And when government refuses to uphold its own laws, then the people withdraw their consent; and the next step is vigilantism and anarchy, which really isn’t all that different from each other.

Sorry Midwest Guy...

I don't see a statement or article to that affect.

Can you provide a reference?

The article I am looking at is dated today and references the 11/16 affidavit.

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Originally posted by midwest guy:

I just read the affidavit signed by the R. monitor. Looks like the correction is 2 votes and not 9600

What the freak? How do all those numbers equal 2 votes?

Well, you have 1,081 votes and 13 for Trump that were marked as 10,707 for Biden and 13 for Trump, which is a 9,2626 vote error...so the answer is 2 votes. Nobody check our math. Nothing to see here...

Anyone have a subscription to The Epoch Times?

I am unable to read this article, so I am unsure if this is more evidence of ballot stuffing or not:

Possible Ballot Stuffing Discovery

Well, you have 1,081 votes and 13 for Trump that were marked as 10,707 for Biden and 13 for Trump, which is a 9,2626 vote error...so the answer is 2 votes. Nobody check our math. Nothing to see here...[/QUOTE]

The kicker is it was only a 12000 vote delta. This brings it into flip territory, especially when they are finding hundreds of "missed" votes in multiple counties. A recount has never uncovered this many missing votes before.

I think the 2 votes comes from the box label indicating that there were 1,105 ballots supposedly in the box and when they were counted a second time, the vote total equaled 1,103. So 2 ballots in the box did not scan or the label on the box was incorrect.

Still does not change that the original vote count was 9,600+ ballots off in favor of Buyden.

Per Bozman’s request:

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A Georgia poll worker who said she has 20 years of experience in handling ballots and recounts said in a sworn statement on Nov. 17 that she noticed an unusual batch of ballots in which the sheets had no signs of use or markings, and approximately 98 percent were marked for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.

Only about two of the ballots from that batch were marked for President Donald Trump, recount worker Susan Voyles said. Voyles filed an affidavit in support of attorney Lin Wood’s lawsuit against Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in which she claimed that Raffensperger made changes to the state’s election policy, arguing that only Georgia’s legislature can make a change in a federal election.

Raffensperger has said on social media and in interviews that there is no evidence to suggest that fraud occurred on a wide enough scale to affect the election’s outcome. “My team secured and strengthened absentee ballots for the first time since 2005. As Secretary of State the first thing I did was push legislation that—OUTLAWED—absentee ballot harvesting in Georgia,” he wrote on Facebook this week in a bid to dispute Wood’s lawsuit.

But Voyles’s allegations are sure to draw fresh attention and scrutiny to the vote-tabulation efforts in Georgia.

Voyles said she worked at Fulton County’s Sandy Springs poll station and accepted the Fulton County Board of Elections’ request to carry out its hand recount of the election.

At one point, Voyles said she noticed a batch of ballots that “was pristine,” while noting that “most of the ballots” she observed “had already been handled; they had been written on by people, and the edges were worn,” showing obvious signs of use.

The “pristine ballot” batch, however, showed “a difference in the texture of the paper—it was if they were intended for absentee use but had not been used for that purposes,” and there “was a difference in the feel.”

“These different ballots,” Voyles added, “included a slight depressed pre-fold so they could be easily folded and unfolded for use in scanning machines.” Also, “There were no markings on the ballots to show where they had come from, or where they had been processed,” she said. “These stood out.”

“In my 20 years’ of experience of handling ballots,” she said, “I observed that the markings for the candidates on [the ‘pristine ballots’] were unusually uniform, perhaps even with a ballot-marking device.”

“By my estimate in observing these ballots, approximately 98 percent constituted votes for Joseph Biden,” she said.

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Suspect fraud in the count, get recount, recount is done by the same people as the original count, no fraud found. Sounds about right. If they cheated once, the same poll workers will not self incriminate during a recount. That's why there is never "evidence" of widespread fraud. Sure, they will flip a few votes here and there, find some missing ballots, correct some clerical errors, and make some new errors, but in the end, nothing will change the outcome.

Without an independent 3rd party auditor supervising the recount, it is meaningless. But I suppose the state laws don't require or allow for this. So they just go through the motions for appearance's sake.

Every dem secretary of state, dem election official, dem poll worker, and dem judge is going to do everything possible to favor Biden.

People need to get arrested and charged with multiple felonies and face 10 years in prison, and then maybe they will talk and expose the corruption. But local LE and prosecutors in dem districts aren't going to do that. Barr and Federal LE need to be doing this.

Thanks sjtill...

I will get a subscription as I have heard good things about Epoch.

As for the article... My only response is "Fuck Me!!!".

Lefty... I agree that dems are going to cheat, even if they are REALLY bad at it.

However, Georgia is run by republicans (small r on purpose).

This does not compute with me... Baffled

Thanks springnr...

The Georgia Republican politicians are just like all other Republicans. They sit on their hands and let Democrats do whatever they please. All of this happened right under these idiots noses and they really could care less and there is zero motivation to fix any of it.

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Lefty... I agree that dems are going to cheat, even if they are REALLY bad at it.

On the contrary the dems have refined cheating into an art form. The fact that we cannot definitely state how long they have been doing it and the magnitude of the results that have been tainted in the past, is the first clue. Second the fact that oversight (if it can even be called that) of their cheating is either asleep at the wheel or folds like a lawn chair when hard decisions have to be made is the second clue. Then when the average citizen who demands accountability gets treated to a rigged game of three card monty between the courts, politicians and various government agencies is the third clue. The fact that the cheating is now so openly brazen shows that the dems have never acquired any fear of consequences from the overseeing agencies, and past history shows this hubris is not unfounded is the fourth clue.

The only thing working against the dems is their unconventional and wily opponent and some recently appointed USSC justices that can give Thomas and Alito some company. Time will tell if this is enough.

Rep. Mo Brooks: Congress Has ‘Absolute Right’ to Reject a State’s Electoral College Votes

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...reaking-2020-11-18-3

Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) said that the presidential election’s final outcome may boil down to the invocation of the 12th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution in early January when Congress convenes.

“The ultimate say over whether to accept or reject” Electoral College votes for any state “is not a court’s job,” he said. “It is Congress’s job under” Article II of the 12th Amendment of the Constitution “coupled with federal statutes that govern this issue.”

“Congress has the absolute right to reject the submitted electoral college votes of any state, which we believe has such a shoddy election system that you can’t trust the election results that those states are submitting to us, that they’re suspect,” Brooks told Epoch Times this week. “And I’m not going to put my name in support of any state that employs an election system that I don’t have confidence in.”

Brooks noted that he doesn’t have confidence in the election results in several states, including Georgia and Pennsylvania, where Democrat Joe Biden is the projected winner by razor-thin margins. President Donald Trump’s campaign has filed lawsuits in several states, alleging irregularities, voter fraud, and violations of state election laws.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS)’s cybersecurity division said this week that the Nov. 3 election was the “most secure” in history, while several secretaries of state have said there is not enough evidence of voter fraud that would result in overturning the election. However, Federal Elections Commission Chairman Trey Trainor has said otherwise, claiming he believes “there is voter fraud” in several key states that went for Biden.

Brooks, perhaps in laying out a potential strategy the GOP will employ, said that “on January the sixth at 1 p.m. eastern time, the 50 states will report to Congress, the president [of the] Senate will preside over this meeting” and “will report to Congress what they contend are their electoral college results in their state.”

“If a House member and a senator objects to the submission of electoral college votes by any state, that immediately triggers a House floor vote and a Senate floor vote on whether to accept or reject those electoral college votes submitted by that particular state,” the Alabama Republican said. “The amount of debate on the House and Senate floor is limited to two hours under federal law.”

Brooks said Congress will then determine whether to reject certain Electoral College votes, thereby taking them “out of the mix.”

His reasoning for removing votes from certain states is because they’re “running a poor election system” and “a system so suspect that you can’t give credibility to the results that are being reported.”

Brooks said under the 12th Amendment, the House would then determine who the president will be, while the Senate will determine the vice president. In the House, he noted, it’s not a simple majority vote, but “it is a majority of the states who determine who the president … will be.”

“Based on the election results we just had, the GOP will control 26 states out of 50,” Brooks said. “That’s a majority with a possible 27th” as one election hasn’t been called yet, he added.

“Presumably, the Republican nominee would be favored, because the GOP controls a majority of the state delegations in the House of Representatives,” Brooks said.

The congressman noted that a similar situation unfolded nearly 200 years ago during the contingent election of 1824, which saw John Quincy Adams—who was the “second-place finisher”—elected president as no candidate won a majority of the electoral vote.

Several days ago, Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz predicted that Trump might attempt to settle the election in Congress.

“Let’s look at the big picture: The big picture now has shifted,” Dershowitz told Newsmax. “I do not believe that President Trump is now trying to get to 270 electoral votes. I think he thinks that’s out of the question.”

“What he’s trying to do is to deny Joe Biden 270 votes, by challenging in Pennsylvania, Georgia, in Nevada, in Michigan, in Arizona,” Dershowitz said, adding that not allowing Biden to reach 270 out of 538 votes would eventually force House state delegations to vote, where Republicans have an advantage over Democrats. Currently, the GOP has a 26-23-1 state delegation majority in the House of Representatives.

“If he can keep the Biden count below 270, then the matter goes to the House of Representatives, where, of course, there is a Republican majority among the delegations of states, and you vote by state if it goes to the House,” Dershowitz said. “He’s trying to follow the playbook of three elections of the 19th century.”