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Originally posted by Stlhead:
Wish it one hand and shit in the other, see which one gets full first. Fraud or no fraud the elections over and Trump lost. The claims of fraud will be found baseless or insignificant and will be swept aside and the election will be certified. There are many members here that worship Trump, and many more that cling to the idea of a president that is capable and agrees with at least some of the ideals that they hold. When Trump rolled onto the political scene he was an ass clown, he has for the last four years been our ass clown, but now it is time to find another. No amount of foot stamping or posting on the internet where only others of like mind read will change the facts, flawed or not.


Okay..... you seem pretty content to be ripped off. I and most here are not going to roll-over. If the courts decide otherwise, then so be it. Until then, why not fight, and encourage the fight? After Jan 20, the conversation may well be different. I hope to god it isn't.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stlhead:

Being a liberal clown are we? I'm expecting a spectacular flame out from you. We do NOT need that negativity in here.


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Stlhead,
It’s time to put Inslee’s cock down. Take a deep breath and chill out.
 
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Wish it one hand and shit in the other, see which one gets full first. Fraud or no fraud the elections over and Trump lost. The claims of fraud will be found baseless or insignificant and will be swept aside and the election will be certified. There are many members here that worship Trump, and many more that cling to the idea of a president that is capable and agrees with at least some of the ideals that they hold. When Trump rolled onto the political scene he was an ass clown, he has for the last four years been our ass clown, but now it is time to find another. No amount of foot stamping or posting on the internet where only others of like mind read will change the facts, flawed or not.



Why did you even bother to post this crap? Is it for our own good? Does
it make you feel better? Are you a troll?


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On the side of 'Nazis': Arizona Democratic secretary of state issued anti-Trump tweets

https://www.washingtonexaminer...ti-trump-rage-tweets

Katie Hobbs, the Democratic secretary of state for Arizona who is overseeing the state's razor-close presidential election, launched many harsh critiques of President Trump on Twitter before she assumed her current office.

In tweets sent from her personal campaign account, Hobbs accused Trump of being "on the side of the freaking Nazis" and said that much of what happened at his rallies was "deplorable" and cheered for "stopping the Trump agenda."

“The President is on the side of the freaking Nazis. Don't just say stuff - DO SOMETHING!!!” Hobbs tweeted on Aug. 12, 2017, in response to then-Sen. Jeff Flake, a Republican, condemning the white supremacists at the Charlottesville, Virginia, "Unite the Right" rally, where a counterprotester was killed. Trump has condemned white supremacists.


If I remember correctly, she was behind her opponent in ballot count until the last, then a 'surge' of votes. Sounds familiar, huh.

If you think she's far left, read up on the leftist who ran against Gov. Ducey in the last election, david garcia. He and hobbs are typical of the 'blue wave' AZ candidates in the recent past.
 
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Fraud or no fraud the elections over and Trump lost. The claims of fraud will be found baseless or insignificant and will be swept aside and the election will be certified.


This apparently needs to be repeated:

“THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated”
Thomas Paine, 1776.

So you gave up when faced with a momentary setback. Good for you.

The REST of us are still fighting and supporting our President. Leave the adults alone and keep your negativity to yourself.



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If there was no Voter Fraud- Why not investigate, Prove the Accusations False and put it behind us?

We're asking to investigate and prove one way or another. We all need and deserve confidence in the election process.


P.S. Why copy the post? It's Copied 4 times in the next 6 posts?


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Fraud or no fraud the elections over and Trump lost. The claims of fraud will be found baseless or insignificant and will be swept aside and the election will be certified.

I see. Kind of like if rape is inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it? That's your position?

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... if 72 million people are cheated, effectively disenfranchised, how many of them will ever vote again?
If you know it's rigged there's no point in participating.

This is precisely the decision I may soon face if the apparent wide-spread fraud that took place in Michigan isn't either corrected or definitively shown not to have occurred.

I haven't missed an election in 50+ years, save a smattering of smaller, local issues. I have campaigned. I have poll-sat. I have donated.



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Hey if it plays out that the courts rule against Trump. I will look forward to 4 years from now when Trump wins his second term as president. And I wasn't a Trump supporter when he came onto the political scene
 
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Wish it one hand and shit in the other, see which one gets full first. Fraud or no fraud the elections over and Trump lost. The claims of fraud will be found baseless or insignificant and will be swept aside and the election will be certified. There are many members here that worship Trump, and many more that cling to the idea of a president that is capable and agrees with at least some of the ideals that they hold. When Trump rolled onto the political scene he was an ass clown, he has for the last four years been our ass clown, but now it is time to find another. No amount of foot stamping or posting on the internet where only others of like mind read will change the facts, flawed or not.


Stlhead I believe has posted truthfully. Whether we agree or not the battle axe from 4 years ago conceded with states having DJT the victor by less votes than what have decided the counts this year. Two things that I don’t argue are religion and politics so I am moving on to 2022 & 2024.
 
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Stlhead I believe has posted truthfully.

Do you understand the difference between truth and opinion?



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It’s that strange “secret ballot” principle that has been in effect for, oh perhaps, centuries.
If the ballot and the envelope with the voter’s name and signature were kept together after opening, it wouldn’t be secret.

Yes. The purpose of the “secret ballot” is so the voter is not intimidated into voting a certain way.
However, there should still be a way to audit ballots. I think the ballot should have identifying characteristics which link it to the voter. A name, a signature, or even a thumb print. The “secret ballot” can be cast in secret at the time of voting but it must remain possible to determine if a legitimate voter cast that vote.


Secret ballots are important. Being able to track fraud is also important.
First there should be a push to limit mail in ballots.
Next the address, and signature info must be removed from the ballot, but it also must be retained for audit purposes. Every ballot image should be available for review as should every security envelope.
While the ballots themselves can not be removed from the box, an election with more fake ballots than the resulting margin of victory should be nullified.
The penalty for election fraud must be severe, and the fruits must be withdrawn.
I don't know how seriously the courts will take the discovery of widespread mail in vote fraud, but they should be willing to ignore ALL mail in ballots if the system is proven to be rigged. That is the only way to make the cost of the fraud so high that it will not be attempted.


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Originally posted by Stlhead: the elections over and Trump lost.

How many Electoral votes have been certified ? “0”

The Media, does not determine the victor.

The election is being contested.

These are the “Truths”.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
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I am moving on to 2022 & 2024.

By resigning to that so easily you seem to think you're life will go on unaffected and unchanged. The only difference will be Biden is President and Trump is not. Perhaps it's true ignorance is bliss.


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Stlhead I believe has posted truthfully.

Do you understand the difference between truth and opinion?


I believe that Stlhead may have posted what he believes to be the truth.

He is still wrong.

This is NOT over.

A Trump defeat is NOT a foregone conclusion.

We CAN win this; I believe it's actually likely that we will win.

At best, he bought into the constant dem/msm deception campaign. At worst, he's a troll. Or, living in Washington state, maybe he's just over-whelmed with the moonbat liberal mentality.

Either way, he is NOT speaking 'truthfully.'



Here's an idea: why don't all the Negative Nellies, defeatists, and others who want to roll over and give up go over to the What's Your Deal forum and post there, and leave that negative crap out of this thread? Really, that ENTIRE forum is dedicated to people who want to gripe and/or complain. Go over there, complain to your heart's content, and leave the adults alone.



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Originally posted by Stlhead:
Wish it one hand and shit in the other, see which one gets full first. Fraud or no fraud the elections over and Trump lost. The claims of fraud will be found baseless or insignificant and will be swept aside and the election will be certified. There are many members here that worship Trump, and many more that cling to the idea of a president that is capable and agrees with at least some of the ideals that they hold. When Trump rolled onto the political scene he was an ass clown, he has for the last four years been our ass clown, but now it is time to find another. No amount of foot stamping or posting on the internet where only others of like mind read will change the facts, flawed or not.


Stlhead I believe has posted truthfully. Whether we agree or not the battle axe from 4 years ago conceded with states having DJT the victor by less votes than what have decided the counts this year. Two things that I don’t argue are religion and politics so I am moving on to 2022 & 2024.

FAT CHANCE - this is it boys - there won't be a fair election in 2022 and 2024. You're lack of perspicacity is alarming!



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What Dzozer said! If this goes to Biden, it will be hard to have honest elections in 2022 and 2024 and I’m afraid longer than that!
 
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FAT CHANCE - this is it boys - there won't be a fair election in 2022 and 2024.

Or, perhaps, ever again.

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You're lack of perspicacity is alarming!

Some don't seem to get the point: If what appears to have happened this time is allowed to stand there will be nothing to dissuade them from doing it in every election going forward.



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I actually like the turtle analogy. ...


Turtles never give up. They are most tenacious.




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I can see that call for “unity” is working already. Despots and ideologues on both the left and right have long thought that that secret ballot thing was bad public policy and therefore unnecessary: “If you vote correctly, Comrade, there is no reason why you would want to hide your choices.”

Roll Eyes

I have pretty much dropped “incredible” from my use vocabulary because I’ve learned that I’m capable of believing almost anything about people’s opinions.
But I can still be amazed.




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