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Too bad she couldn’t have been held in contempt.


I think at least two of Trump´s men were held in contempt, one just got out of a 4 month stay and one in just now for the same, exactly for declining to answer questions.

Please explain the difference from them as concerns Cheatle (sp?).


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Cheatle was supoenaed. She came. And, although she was evasive, from my understanding, never refused to answer the questions. So, there is nothing to hold her in contempt for. She just pissed off members of Congress with her bullshit.

The two Trump's guys, Bannon and Navarro, refused to appear before Congress when subpoenaed, IIRC. So, they were held in criminal contempt of Congress.


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I think we may have reached conspiracy theory critical mass.

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A crummy commercial? Son of a bitch!


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Trump gunman had Michigan school shooter's photo, foreign encrypted apps, FBI tells Congress

https://justthenews.com/politi..._campaign=newsletter

While Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle frustrated lawmakers Monday with sparse details about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump, the FBI has disclosed to Congress that the shooter used three encrypted communications apps ostensibly tied to Germany, Brussels and New Zealand and also possessed an arrest photo of an earlier Michigan school shooter, Just the News has confirmed.

In multiple briefings, FBI leaders told lawmakers that the 20-year-old would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks’ primary cell phone has become an important focal point of the probe, including some 14,000 images that were found on it, according to multiple sources familiar with the briefings. The FBI has not issued an update on their findings to the public since July 14.

That phone included an arrest photo and other information related to Ethan Crumbley, who was convicted in the deadly 2021 shooting at Oxford High School in Michigan, as well as information about Crumbley’s parents, the sources said, speaking only on condition of anonymity.

The phone also included stock images of firearms and guns, articles regarding U.S. government figures as well as a screenshot of online live coverage of July 13 rally saved at 6:01pm, about 10 minutes before Crooks began shooting from a rooftop near the Butler, Pa., venue where Trump was speaking.

One of the most tantalizing pieces of evidence from the phone, according to the sources, was three foreign encrypted platforms used by Crooks that were apparently based in Germany, New Zealand, and Belgium. The encryption on the apps “poses a significant challenge,” according to one source.

The FBI’s closed-door briefings also provided a far more detailed timeline about the events leading up to the shooting than Cheatle offered the House Oversight Committee, including that the Secret Service first conducted a site survey at the Butler event venue on July 8 that included the AGR industrial building that Crooks eventually used as a shooter’s nest, the sources said,

That survey was five days before the event, and resulted in a security plan that relied on three concentric rings of security around the podium, according to the sources.

Crooks visited the Butler Farms venue twice before the shooting, once on July 7 and again at 10:30 a.m. the morning of the shooting. He returned to retrieve a gun and then bought some ammunition before returning to the venue, the sources said,

The FBI also told lawmakers that the Secret Service was first notified at 5:51 p.m. ET on July 13 by the Pennsylvania State Police about a “suspicious person” at the speaking venue, and that information was relayed just a minute later to the Secret Service counter sniper team and response agents on the ground.

That means the Service had at least 9 minutes warning before Trump began speaking and 20 minutes before Crooks began shooting, the sources told Just The News.

One minute before the first shots were fired, the Secret Service sniper was alerted that there was a local police incident at the 3 p.m. position to where Trump was speaking. One of Trump’s detail agents began inquiring what was going on just before the first shot was fired, the sources said.

The FBI said evidence that its agents recovered from Crooks’ body or nearby after a counter-sniper killed him included the AR-15 rifle he used, a remote transmitter, a receipt from Home Depot, and his primary cell phone. The bureau told lawmakers that evidence seized from his vehicle in the parking lot at the Butler venue included:

Two explosive devices that were to function remotely,
A Drone
A tactical vest with plates in the front and back
Four magazines full of same ammo used in attack
Evidence seized from his residence included:

14 additional weapons
One explosive device
A secondary cell phone
A Laptop and hard drive
3 USB devices
Agents said the most startling finding thus far has been the complete absence of evidence revealing any political or ideological motive for Crooks' shooting, the sources said, recounting what the FBI told Congress.

On his laptop, Crooks visited websites about building explosive devices and left a message in an online gaming platform with his profile picture that read: “July 13 will be my premiere.”


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Where did he get 14 additional weapons (if they were firearms)?



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^^^^^^ Most likely his dads. Thats what was said about the ar from the beginning.
 
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Sweet baby Jesus!

I agree with AOC's statement.

I never thought that would happen.



It's a cold day in Hell, and the Cubs are probably going to win the World Series again... I think I just agreed with her too.


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Johnson, Jeffries announce bipartisan House task force to investigate attempted Trump assassination

https://justthenews.com/govern..._campaign=newsletter



House Speaker Mike Johnson and House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries announced joint support on Tuesday for the creation of a bipartisan House Task Force to investigate the attempted assassination of 2024 presidential nominee Donald Trump.

“The security failures that allowed an assassination attempt on Donald Trump’s life are shocking. In response to bipartisan demands for answers, we are announcing a House Task Force made up of seven Republicans and six Democrats to thoroughly investigate the matter,” said Speaker Johnson and Leader Jeffries in a joint statement. “The task force will be empowered with subpoena authority and will move quickly to find the facts, ensure accountability, and make certain such failures never happen again.”

According to Johnson's office, the House will take a vote on a resolution this week to formally establish the task force and its seven Republican and six Democrat members.

His office said that the task force "will be empowered with all investigative authority of the House of Representatives including subpoena authority."

The panel will also "make recommendations for reform to the relevant government agencies and recommend any necessary legislation to implement the reforms."


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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^





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Secret Service head Kimberly Cheatle resigns after shocking failures led to Trump assassination attempt

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The only thing that makes sense at this point is Mace's motion to impeach. That will be the only way that vital information is ultimately gained so that we understand what in hell happened and how it happened.

--She resigned because she was going to be impeached. But now we can get all the information she withheld.


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She was waiting for the Golden Parachute settlement


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Sweet baby Jesus!

I agree with AOC's statement.

I never thought that would happen.



It's a cold day in Hell, and the Cubs are probably going to win the World Series again... I think I just agreed with her too.


Do not be fooled by these Democrats who are all of a sudden worried about the health and welfare of Donald J Trump. They are feigning outrage and concern at all the security failures and that such an attempt could even happen. It's all horse shit coming from them. They have to feign outrage and concern now only because the attempt failed.

All these Congressional hearings serve to do is give all the actors a stage to perform on. Think of all the things they have tried to do to Trump for the last eight years. No need for me to list them we all know. All the things they have said, worst threat to democracy, Hitler, dictator, time to put a bullseye on Trump and on and on.
Now all of a sudden they are all shocked. Ain't buying it one fucking bit. They wanted this to happen, they needed it to happen and they allowed it to happen. They missed, so now it's time to change face. Fuck 'em!


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She resigns, good riddance


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Sweet baby Jesus!

I agree with AOC's statement.

I never thought that would happen.



It's a cold day in Hell, and the Cubs are probably going to win the World Series again... I think I just agreed with her too.


Do not be fooled by these Democrats who are all of a sudden worried about the health and welfare of Donald J Trump. They are feigning outrage and concern at all the security failures and that such an attempt could even happen. It's all horse shit coming from them. They have to feign outrage and concern now only because the attempt failed.

All these Congressional hearings serve to do is give all the actors a stage to perform on. Think of all the things they have tried to do to Trump for the last eight years. No need for me to list them we all know. All the things they have said, worst threat to democracy, Hitler, dictator, time to put a bullseye on Trump and on and on.
Now all of a sudden they are all shocked. Ain't buying it one fucking bit. They wanted this to happen, they needed it to happen and they allowed it to happen. They missed, so now it's time to change face. Fuck 'em!

^^^^ agree
 
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Her resignation was necessary. The failures of the agency in her tenure were staggering. This is what happens when leaders appoint friends to key positions.

The real question is, who replaces her and how do they rebuild that disaster to what it once was?

I wonder if this gets her out of future congressional scrutiny. Does her Deputy Director get to sit in the hot seat now?




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I'd really like to know what her relationship to the Cheney's was in the last 10 months

particularly Liz
 
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The fact that it took 10 full days is just astonishing to me and shows just how arrogant these Democrats all are and how protected they all feel.

If that was a Dem Presidential candidate who got shot in the head and it was a Republican appointed USSS Director, they would have resigned THAT VERY DAY.


 
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