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doesn't say the source is Barr


Yep.

I have no faith at all from anything reported, as the lies and deception from almost every "news" source, is as obvious as the sky above.




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The Fight Will Continue

By Yaacov ben Moshe

The presidential election of 2020 has revealed America’s present state of social and spiritual chaos. It has also cast light on the paths we might choose going into the future. While we wait for the Georgia senatorial runoff that will begin that future in earnest, here is where we are right now.

There are two different world views in competition. The one that seems to be on the ascendant, calls itself by many names so it is hard to pin it down. Let me try. All of these various names have aggregated themselves under the “big tent” of the Democrat party. There is a kaleidoscope of ideologies from the Muslim Brotherhood to Greens and Communists but the three largest and most often cited groups are liberals, progressives and socialists. Leaving aside the serious and unresolved argument that liberal is not the correct term in any way for what passes for the ideologies that predominate in that party, there is one core belief that they all have in common. In one way or another, they believe that human life can be perfected through government.

They make it sound good by painting the benefits of government control with soothing words -- equality, security justice -- they leave out the part about the government the bullying involved. Liberals think that Social Justice can be achieved by passing laws to govern every aspect of social and personal interaction. Socialists believe that it is a legitimate governmental responsibility to see that no matter how hard one works, how intelligent one is or even how lucky one has been, that person must not have a vastly better position or wealth than anyone else.

Progressives just want to decide what is progress and what isn’t. They all, in their own way, want to increase the role of government in your life. When push comes to shove, to achieve any of that, government is a blunt instrument, a bully.

That is the nature of government. Our American system of government was created to protect the individual whose rights were endowed by God -- to make life better by setting rules and keeping things fair. Our Constitution is the rule book and its best rule is that government should be limited. Government that is not limited is a jealous monster that wants more and more control all the time until it devours the people. There is a fine line between being governed and being ruled.

That’s not to say the Republican Party is in any way ideal. It has been an unreliable ally, a fair-weather friend, to the cause of liberty. Many Republicans, Mitt Romney, Jeff Flake, Mike Lee and many others are either part of or have sold themselves to the corporate and high tech finance and influence sectors. They paint themselves as entrepreneurs, but they are really careerists of the most hypocritical kind. The irony is that even though they think of themselves as entrepreneurs, they also believe that government is the ultimate answer to all problems. They just believe in somewhat different goals. Without Donald Trump as the disruptor, The Republican Party would have continued on the path to irrelevancy that it scurried back to after the Reagan years.

The Trump presidency, above all, championed the idea that individuals can run their own lives and make decisions about what is right. To have freedom of (not from) religion. Businesses of all sizes should be able to take risks and create jobs without overbearing, senselessly inefficient regulation and confiscatory taxation by the government. It has been, above all, about returning the role of the individual and his aspirations to the central role in public life.

So, what was the election about, then, and what is at stake in the Georgia runoff? According to an Economist/YouGov poll, 75% of registered voters believe that there was voter fraud and that 40% believe that there was enough fraud to change the outcome. There is even a poll that shows that a significant number of Biden voters believe there was fraud. As the lawsuits and evidence pile up, this understanding will only grow. The more the media and Democrats argue with that growing understanding, the more they expose their need to govern our thoughts as well as our actions. This is the point at which being governed is no longer by consent -- it is where being governed takes the fatal slide into being ruled over..

The people who pulled this theft off think that our history of peaceful transfers of power in the past is their guarantee that their theft will succeed. Like an over-confident bank robber, they have taken our Constitution hostage with this brazen heist and are now holding a gun to its head. “One false move,” they are in effect saying, “and we kill this thing and take over.”

But it is clear that it is about killing the Constitution whether we act or not. They have already declared that this is their aim. Now they are only using our reverence for it to quell us -- to, in effect, coerce us into beginning our captivity voluntarily. Like the passengers on flight 93, we are being hijacked. If we don’t do anything, they will do what they want with us, take our guns first, confiscate our property through taxation and worse

Most humiliating of all, they will force us to repeat their absurdities and lies. We will have to mouth the words that we believe that there are any number of genders that they can imagine -- that men can chose to be women who can chose to be men. They will take our children away from us with indoctrination in public schools, and universities. They will force us to agree that we are irredeemable racists. They have already begun -- just ask any of the several people fired from their jobs for so much as privately expressing support for President Trump. In short, they mean to rule over us, body, heart and mind in every humiliating way.

That is what the fight about the 2020 election fraud is about. It is about us, the 70 million people who understand this at some level, those who voted for President Trump. We cannot turn a blind eye to the theft of our rights. We know in our hearts this is wrong. We are the first and most fully aware victims of the downhill slide toward tyranny. There are many more though. There are polls that show that significant numbers, even of Democrat voters who think that there was significant fraud.

We are right to be proud of being a nation of laws. The peaceful transfer of power has been one of the hallmarks of that civilized orderliness. We must do our best to keep it peaceful, but it does not have to be orderly or passive. Neither is it the most vital element of rule of law.

The most important cornerstone of our rights and responsibilities in our system is the vote of the individual. If our votes are changed, discarded, diluted or negated in any way we have been betrayed. This is the result of the 2020 election all arguments about order and law are irrelevant if this is not addressed, investigated and the culprits punished.

The founders defied the tyranny of Great Britain even though most of them had wanted to be good “subjects” of the king for most of their lives. They revolted, finally, because they were galvanized by the humiliation of knowing that being “subjects” of a king that lived on a different continent and ruled without consent was a form of slavery. They and so many generations of patriots risked everything to escape that servitude. We are now facing the gravest challenge to the survival of the Union since Lincoln’s day.

The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the latest generation. We say we are for the Union. The world will not forget that we say this. We know how to save the Union. The world knows we do know how to save it. We -- even we here -- hold the power, and bear the responsibility. In giving freedom to the slave, we assure freedom to the free -- honorable alike in what we give, and what we preserve. We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth. Other means may succeed; this could not fail. - Abraham Lincoln, Address to Congress, delivered two months before the Emancipation Proclamation.

That Union, in the sense that Abraham Lincoln knew it was then and is still “the last best hope of earth”. That last best hope depends upon the primacy of liberty and the rights of the individual as expressed by the vote.

Statistically and from eyewitness accounts, we know that we so far surpassed the Democrats’ arrogant expectations of victory in 2016 that they could not cheat enough at the last minute to turn us back. This time, they were more prepared. They began months before the election, putting in place illegal mail-in ballot schemes and crooked machines. Even so, we outvoted them to such a vast degree that their cheating had to become too desperate and huge to hide -- in spite of the best efforts of their lackeys in the media. The Biden “victory” is a lie that should not be allowed to stand. Its continued acceptance is corrosive and shameful to our very core.

The fight is not over; it goes on in the courts. If the courts fail us, it will continue in Georgia. I pray that Georgia will stand in the breach for us but if they don’t, the fight must go on, to the House of Representatives voting by state delegation. This is still The United States of America. It is up to us, We the People, to remember why this is the greatest country ever- the last best hope. Lincoln outlined the choice, it is between nobly saving it or meanly losing it.

The oaths of our military begin with the promise “…to protect and defend the constitution of The United States” first and above all other loyalties. If that is the last line of defense we must call on our military to defend us. God Bless the United States and the Constitution that created it.

https://www.americanthinker.co...t_will_continue.html



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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The fat lady has not yet performed. She's warming up though. But what shall she sing? Stay steadfast. As Cromwell said: "Put your trust in God, my boys, and keep your powder dry."


BREAKING: Wisconsin Supreme Court says election officials were wrong; ballots may not be counted

The opinion, which was released this morning, says local elections officials were wrong to suggest that voters could claim the status of "indefinitely confined" based on COVID-19. The majority decision also held that if voters falsely claimed they were indefinitely confined "their ballots would not count."

https://electionwiz.com/2020/1...-not-be-counted/amp/



I just thought this needed to be repeated.
 
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where is it cited that Barr said "it's the deposed king ranting"



Thanks for that, sdy. Clearly the news source I used insinuated that those were Barr's actual words. In fact, Mark Steyn may have been bamboozled too as that's who I first heard it from, and then I "verified" it separately. As careful and cynical as I have become with all news sources, I was still possibly mislead.


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Balze,

yes CNN and Business Insider went for the "headline trap"

Been caught in that myself a few times
 
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If you did not hear the Coffee county gent testify last week, you should. It should be queued up to start at 4:57:40, if not, that is where you should start it.




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:
The fat lady has not yet performed. She's warming up though. But what shall she sing? Stay steadfast. As Cromwell said: "Put your trust in God, my boys, and keep your powder dry."


BREAKING: Wisconsin Supreme Court says election officials were wrong; ballots may not be counted

The opinion, which was released this morning, says local elections officials were wrong to suggest that voters could claim the status of "indefinitely confined" based on COVID-19. The majority decision also held that if voters falsely claimed they were indefinitely confined "their ballots would not count."

https://electionwiz.com/2020/1...-not-be-counted/amp/



I just thought this needed to be repeated.


That isn't what I've read.

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https://www.jsonline.com/story...dens-win/6529642002/
Wisconsin Supreme Court upholds Biden's win, rejects Trump lawsuit
MADISON - The Wisconsin Supreme Court upheld Democrat Joe Biden's Wisconsin win Monday, handing President Donald Trump a defeat less than an hour before the Electoral College was to meet.

The 4-3 ruling was the latest in a string of dozens of losses for the president across the country as Republicans pursue last-gasp efforts to give Trump a second term.

In the majority, conservative Justice Brian Hagedorn joined the court's three liberals to confirm Biden's win. They found one of Trump's arguments was without merit and the others were brought far too late.

Trump's challenges to Wisconsin's voting laws "come long after the last play or even the last game; the (Trump) Campaign is challenging the rulebook adopted before the season began," Hagedorn wrote.

Justice Brian Hagedorn
The three other conservatives on the court dissented, writing they believed clerks violated the law with some election practices.

"The majority does not bother addressing what the boards of canvassers did or should have done, and instead, four members of this court throw the cloak of (timing) over numerous problems that will be repeated again and again, until this court has the courage to correct them," Chief Justice Patience Roggensack wrote for the dissenters.

Alongside Hagedorn in the majority were Justices Ann Walsh Bradley, Rebecca Dallet and Jill Karofsky. In dissent were Roggensack and Justices Rebecca Bradley and Annette Ziegler. (The Bradleys are not related.)






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Wisconsin Supreme Court rejects Trump’s call to disqualify ballots

https://www.channel3000.com/wi...o-disqualify-ballot/





So they tossed Trump's and Mark Jefferson and the Republican Party of Wisconsin won? Why can't I find any other stories about our win if they are tossing ballots? Confusing as heck. So what does this mean?
 
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So 6 of the 7 justices on the Wisconsin supreme Court are women?


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where is it cited that Barr said "it's the deposed king ranting"



Thanks for that, sdy. Clearly the news source I used insinuated that those were Barr's actual words. In fact, Mark Steyn may have been bamboozled too as that's who I first heard it from, and then I "verified" it separately. As careful and cynical as I have become with all news sources, I was still possibly mislead.

I first heard it reading you're post and then heard Steyn reporting it. Quite frankly it does not change my view of him. I see little difference between him and Sessions in terms of getting anything done and he has had ample opportunity.


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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:
The fat lady has not yet performed. She's warming up though. But what shall she sing? Stay steadfast. As Cromwell said: "Put your trust in God, my boys, and keep your powder dry."


BREAKING: Wisconsin Supreme Court says election officials were wrong; ballots may not be counted

The opinion, which was released this morning, says local elections officials were wrong to suggest that voters could claim the status of "indefinitely confined" based on COVID-19. The majority decision also held that if voters falsely claimed they were indefinitely confined "their ballots would not count."

https://electionwiz.com/2020/1...-not-be-counted/amp/



I just thought this needed to be repeated.


That isn't what I've read.

quote:
https://www.jsonline.com/story...dens-win/6529642002/
Wisconsin Supreme Court upholds Biden's win, rejects Trump lawsuit
MADISON - The Wisconsin Supreme Court upheld Democrat Joe Biden's Wisconsin win Monday, handing President Donald Trump a defeat less than an hour before the Electoral College was to meet.

The 4-3 ruling was the latest in a string of dozens of losses for the president across the country as Republicans pursue last-gasp efforts to give Trump a second term.

In the majority, conservative Justice Brian Hagedorn joined the court's three liberals to confirm Biden's win. They found one of Trump's arguments was without merit and the others were brought far too late.

Trump's challenges to Wisconsin's voting laws "come long after the last play or even the last game; the (Trump) Campaign is challenging the rulebook adopted before the season began," Hagedorn wrote.

Justice Brian Hagedorn
The three other conservatives on the court dissented, writing they believed clerks violated the law with some election practices.

"The majority does not bother addressing what the boards of canvassers did or should have done, and instead, four members of this court throw the cloak of (timing) over numerous problems that will be repeated again and again, until this court has the courage to correct them," Chief Justice Patience Roggensack wrote for the dissenters.

Alongside Hagedorn in the majority were Justices Ann Walsh Bradley, Rebecca Dallet and Jill Karofsky. In dissent were Roggensack and Justices Rebecca Bradley and Annette Ziegler. (The Bradleys are not related.)






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Wisconsin Supreme Court rejects Trump’s call to disqualify ballots

https://www.channel3000.com/wi...o-disqualify-ballot/





So they tossed Trump's and Mark Jefferson and the Republican Party of Wisconsin won? Why can't I find any other stories about our win if they are tossing ballots? Confusing as heck. So what does this mean?


There were 2 cases, they went against Trump on one and for him on the other. At least that's how I understood it.
 
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^Thanks. Funny how nothing can be found online abut the win. That would be huge though if WI flips. Still need two more states, but it's a good start.
 
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The fat lady has not yet performed. She's warming up though. But what shall she sing? Stay steadfast. As Cromwell said: "Put your trust in God, my boys, and keep your powder dry."


BREAKING: Wisconsin Supreme Court says election officials were wrong; ballots may not be counted

The opinion, which was released this morning, says local elections officials were wrong to suggest that voters could claim the status of "indefinitely confined" based on COVID-19. The majority decision also held that if voters falsely claimed they were indefinitely confined "their ballots would not count."

https://electionwiz.com/2020/1...-not-be-counted/amp/




It's a start!!! It is a move in the right direction.
 
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Is it true some Electors are voting Trump in Nevada?





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They 'fact checked' Trump's assertion in the debate that the vaccine would likely be available by the end of the year. Basically called the POTUS a liar and suggested 'experts' believed the vaccine would begin shipping in the second quarter of 2021. The 'media' in this country literally campaigned for slow Joe.
 
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My disdain for Barr has been no secret for sometime now. But in deference to others here who just a short time ago had a much more positive opinion of him I stopped negative posting about Barr. He needs to be relegated to obscurity in the same place Hillary is. Just another swamp rat who did not have the moral compass or courage to be in the position he held. Another feckless self serving bastard who when history called him he lacked the courage and fortitude to answer the call.

When Barr was first appointed, I was quite thrilled as I assumed he would do his job. Everyone here knows what happens when you "assume", and I should have taken that into consideration, as I was dead wrong about his performance! Low-life scum-sucking worthless POS is all he turned out to be!!! Mad


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Is it true some Electors are voting Trump in Nevada?

Just saw it on YouTube
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=...KhM&feature=youtu.be
 
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Crucial Logs Missing From Antrim County Dominion Voting Machines: Forensics Report

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...reaking-2020-12-14-4

Crucial security and adjudication logs are missing from Dominion Voting Systems machines from Michigan’s Antrim County, according to a forensics report (pdf) released on Dec. 14 in compliance with a court order.

https://beta.documentcloud.org...nty-forensics-report

“Significantly, the computer system shows vote adjudication logs for prior years; but all adjudication log entries for the 2020 election cycle are missing. The adjudication process is the simplest way to manually manipulate votes. The lack of records prevents any form of audit accountability, and their conspicuous absence is extremely suspicious since the files exist for previous years using the same software,” the report, authored by Russell Ramsland, states.

“We must conclude that the 2020 election cycle records have been manually removed.”

The absence of the adjudication logs is particularly alarming because the forensic exam found that the voting machines rejected an extraordinary number of ballots for adjudication, a manual process in which election workers determine the ultimate outcome for each ballot.

“The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots,” Ramsland said. “We observed an error rate of 68.05 percent. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity.”

“These errors resulted in overall tabulation errors or ballots being sent to adjudication. This high error rates proves the Dominion Voting System is flawed and does not meet state or federal election laws,” he added. “Because the intentional high error rate generates large numbers of ballots to be adjudicated by election personnel, we must deduce that bulk adjudication occurred. However, because files and adjudication logs are missing, we have not yet determined where the bulk adjudication occurred or who was responsible for it. Our research continues.”

Ramsland manages the Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG), which includes former Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security, and Central Intelligence Agency officials. The group focuses on cybersecurity and open-source network penetration testing.

ASOG examined Dominion products in Antrim County earlier this month as part of an ongoing case. The team inspected and performed forensic duplication on the county’s election management server, which was running Dominion Democracy Suite 5.5.3-002, compact flash cards used by local precincts in their Dominion ImageCast system, USB memory sticks used by Dominion Voter Assist Terminals, and USB memory sticks used for the poll book.

In addition to missing adjudication logs, the examination found that the systems are also missing security logs prior to 11 p.m. on Nov. 4.

“This means that all security logs for the day after the election, on Election Day, and prior to Election Day are gone. Security logs are very important to an audit trail, forensics, and for detecting advanced persistent threats and outside attacks, especially on systems with outdated system files,” Ramsland said.

“These logs would contain domain controls, authentication failures, error codes, times users logged on and off, network connections to file servers between file accesses, internet connections, times, and data transfers,” he added. “Other server logs before November 4, 2020 are present; therefore, there is no reasonable explanation for the security logs to be missing.”

13th Circuit Judge Kevin Elsenheimer approved the forensic examination in Bailey v. Antrim County, which alleges the infamous vote flip county officials reported last month may have not been the result of human error, as officials had alleged.

Elsenheimer earlier Monday agreed to let the report on the examination be published.

The office of Michigan’s Democrat Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, Dominion, and a spokesman for Antrim County didn’t respond to requests for comment.

Erik Grill, an assistant attorney general, told the judge on Monday morning that Ramsland’s preliminary report was “inaccurate, incomplete, and misleading.” Haider Kazim, an attorney for the county, said it contained several errors the county believes were based on “faulty assumptions and incorrect assumptions.”


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So is NV for show or was that the official 6 votes?
 
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Is it true some Electors are voting Trump in Nevada?

Just saw it on YouTube
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=...KhM&feature=youtu.be



yes !!!!!
 
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