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In the video below, the guy uses video that was taken near the fence inline with the shooter and Trump plus the video from the lectern Trump was speaking at. He analyzed the sounds on those videos, has some good graphics representing the timing of the shots, and comes to the conclusion the shooter fired 8 shots and Secret Service fired once.

https://youtu.be/Qz_LpsZfLEA

Forgetting the sounds, at least four if not five of the shots line up with the shooter, the things that were hit, and Trump.

Not in any particular order:
Shooter, firefighter, Trump
Shooter, Trump, audience member 1
Shooter, Trump, audience member 2
Shooter, Trump, hydraulics on crane
Shooter, Trump, photo of bullet on other side of Trump’s head

Then looking at the sounds, especially from the fence line, and I’m convinced the 8 shots came from the exact same location, from the same gun.
 
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Judge Refuses To Dismiss Trump Defamation Lawsuit Against ABC, Stephanopoulos

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...t-abc-stephanopoulos

On Wednesday, a federal judge rejected a motion by ABC News and George Stephanopoulos to dismiss the defamation lawsuit filed against them by former President Donald Trump.

As reported by The Hill, the lawsuit stems from an interview in March where Stephanopoulos, while talking to Congresswoman Nancy Mace (R-S.C.), repeatedly described President Trump as being “liable for rape” following the judgement in a civil lawsuit filed by disgraced former author E. Jean Carroll. The jury in that case technically found Trump liable for sexual assault, but not for rape.

In her 21-page ruling, U.S. District Judge Cecilia Altonaga rejected ABC’s multiple claims to protection, including their assertion that they were not liable for defamation under the “fair reporting privilege.” The network pointed to a prior ruling by U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan, a Clinton appointee, who previously ruled that it did not constitute defamation when Carroll herself described Trump as guilty of rape, claiming that the legal distinction “is minimal.”

“Here, of course, New York has opted to separate out a crime of rape; and Stephanopoulos’s statements dealt not with the public’s usage of that term, but the jury’s consideration of it during a formal legal proceeding,” Judge Altonaga, an appointee of George W. Bush, said in her ruling, determining that the issue at hand was whether or not Stephanopoulos’ statements were substantially true.

“Once again, the Court does not find that a reasonable jury must — or even is likely to — conclude Stephanopoulos’s statements were defamatory,” Altonaga continued. “A jury may, upon viewing the segment, find there was sufficient context. A jury may also conclude Plaintiff fails to establish other elements of his claim … But a reasonable jury could conclude Plaintiff was defamed and, as a result, dismissal is inappropriate.”

Stephanopoulos referred to Trump as “liable for rape” 10 different times in the interview with Mace, even as the congresswoman pushed back on his assertions. The lawsuit against ABC and Stephanopoulos, which was filed in Miami, is seeking an unspecified amount of money in compensation for damages.

President Trump declared the ruling to be a “big win” for his case. In a post on his Truth Social website, Trump said that “before you know it, the fake news media will be forced by the courts to start telling the truth.”


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strange way to word an order allowing it to go to a jury, maybe he thinks Trump will lose and then he can try and hit him for fees and costs.
 
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Good news

I hope this leads to the end of George Stuffingenvelopes at ABC. David Brinkley would be horrified at ABC for what they have become.
 
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For Petes sake, they'll do or say anything to try and put a twist on the assassination attempt for political reasons.

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FBI director casts doubts on Trump being struck by bullet during assassination attempt

FBI Director Christopher Wray has raised doubts as to whether or not Donald Trump was struck by a bullet during the assassination attempt at a Pennsylvania rally earlier this month.

Wray testified before the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday about the ongoing investigation into the attempt on the former president’s life and the response of law enforcement agencies that day.

When questioned by committee chairman Jim Jordan as to whether the FBI had accounted for all of the bullets at the scene, Wray said that eight spent rounds were recovered from the rooftop of the building from which the gunman opened fire.

“With respect to former president Trump, there’s some question about whether or not it’s a bullet or shrapnel that hit his ear,” the FBI chief added.

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“As I sit here right now, I don’t know whether that bullet… in addition to causing the grazing, could have landed somewhere else.”

He added: “But I believe we’ve accounted for all the shots in the cartridges.”

Gunman Thomas Crooks fired a volley of eight rounds towards Trump using an AR-15 rifle while the former president stood on stage speaking to rallygoers in Butler, Pennsylvania, killing one rallygoer and wounding two others.

Former White House physician Ronny Jackson has said that Trump was shot in the ear creating a 2cm-wide wound, according to a memo shared with Axios.

The former president has also repeatedly said that he was struck in the ear by a bullet.
 
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Wray seems really dumb about firearms and tries to act like a collapsable stock is an evil dangerous feature. He also blinks a lot when he lies.
 
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He also blinks a lot when he lies.

I wouldn't believe anything Wray says. He's a known liar, simply a shape shifter representing a politicized agency.



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And to recap the history of Wray; he's best friends with Chris Christie serving under him in the DOJ, and was also his attorney in the Bridgegate fiasco. It was Christie who pushed Trump to appoint Wray.



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Wray is a known liar and is an enemy of the country
 
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And to recap the history of Wray; he's best friends with Chris Christie serving under him in the DOJ, and was also his attorney in the Bridgegate fiasco. It was Christie who pushed Trump to appoint Wray.


A HUGE DJT mistake, appointing this shitbag.


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^^^ Which can be rectified by firing him on day 1.
 
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Wonder when we are going to start seeing Baghdad Bob publicly explaining things OBO the Dems? I suspect he could use the work, and has got to be, after all, #1 on the candidates list based on experience. OTOH, he is an elderly white male so....
 
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^^^ Which can be rectified by firing him on day 1.

Which i expect to happen on day 1, or close. And Wray knows it.



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A HUGE DJT mistake, appointing this shitbag.

Let's face it. Trump totally underestimated the DC swamp the first time, because he never realized how deep it was/is, and really, probably none of us did, either. It's only after the fact that they are all exposed. I think he learned a valuable lesson, so for now, I no longer see the point of crying over spilled milk.


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Whistleblowers Detail Why Drones Weren't Used at Trump's Butler Rally

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...utler-rally-n2642524

According to whistleblower testimony given to investigators in the office of Republican Senator Josh Hawley, drones were offered for use by local law enforcement on the day of former President Donald Trump's Butler, Pennsylvania rally but were rejected by the Secret Service.

"According to one whistleblower, the night before the rally, U.S. Secret Service repeatedly denied offers from a local law enforcement partner to utilize drone technology to secure the rally. This means that the technology was both available to USSS and able to be deployed to secure the site. Secret Service said no," Senator Hawley wrote in a letter Thursday to Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas. "The whistleblower further alleges that after the shooting took place, USSS changed course and asked the local partner to deploy the drone technology to surveil the site in the aftermath of the attack."

"It is hard to understand why USSS would decline to use drones when they were offered, particularly given the fact USSS permitted the shooter to overfly the rally area with his own drone mere hours before event. The failure to deploy drone technology is all the more concerning since, according to the whistleblower, the drones USSS was offered had the capability not only to identify active shooters but also to help neutralize them," Hawley continued. "So that Congress can continue its investigation, please provide no later than seven days from now all records and communications concerning the availability or use of drones at the July 13, 2024 rally in Butler, PA. You must also testify before Congress next week about these staggering security failures by your department."

The news comes just days after former Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle resigned in disgrace.


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It's going to be interesting to see how big of a knife Trump uses to gut these agencies when he takes office. I'm guessing he already knows who he wants as upper level management but I think you have to cut deep into the agents as well.

I stopped agreeing with the "There are still a lot of good agents in the field" statement quite a while ago. They tried to kill him and he knows it.


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Apparently the Dr. testimony was not factored into the FBI investigation on the wound?




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I stopped agreeing with the "There are still a lot of good agents in the field" statement quite a while ago. They tried to kill him and he knows it.

Absolutely.

12131 also nails it...he underestimated the depth of the swamp. I think many of us suspected it was super deep, but still none of us know the true depth. WHICH is why I really support Vivek's model of overhauling from the executive branch.

I'm praying that Trump, one makes it into office (for LOTS of plausible and implausible reasons), then two employs a Ramaswami approach. No quarter given. It is necessary to repair and fix the republic. Perhaps not to save it...because treading water is usually the best that we see, and it does delay the decline. I'd like a fix. Let's fix the problems instead of kicking the can as he did in his last presidency. He should understand now a bit better of what he is up against.

God protect him in the meantime. At least 2 million federal employees don't want him in power.


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a whole box of whistles is needed for people to start using



Imagine if people started ordering and having boxes of cheap whistles delivered to all the cesspools in the diseased government cesspools.




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