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that was the snipers I was referring to they never looked like they fired the rifle no kick no muzzle blast, 300 win mag is a beast I had one and fired 20 rds thru it before I sold it, i'm not a wimp but that thing was brutal. | |||
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It would be a grave mistake to think they won't try again. The left is undeniably relentless in their quest for power. Pressure needs to be applied to divert more Secret Service resources to President Trump's detail, or he must supplement with private security. God Bless and Protect the Once and Future President, Donald John Trump. | |||
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The courage Donald J Trump displayed after being shot was truly amazing. I can't wait till November, and I have the honor of voting for him. I’m here to learn more about firearms and would love to contribute as well. I’ve been following this forum for a few years and would feel honored to be a member. | |||
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BREAKING NEWS: Trump gives first interview since attempted assassination as he opens up on the decision that saved his life, why he raised his fist and yelled 'fight' and how 'reality is just setting in' By STEPHEN M. LEPORE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM PUBLISHED: 22:49 EDT, 14 July 2024 | UPDATED: 00:15 EDT, 15 July 2024 Donald Trump has given his first in-depth interview after miraculously surviving an assassination attempt at his Pennsylvania rally Saturday, insisting 'I'm supposed to be dead'. Trump revealed how turning his head away from the crowd to look at a video screen may have saved his life at the Butler, Pennsylvania rally and how he wanted to keep talking after gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks struck him in the right ear. He said Sunday: 'I rarely look away from the crowd. Had I not done that in that moment, well, we would not be talking today, would we?' Trump noted that he had turned slightly to the right so that he could read a chart on illegal immigrants. 'The most incredible thing was that I happened to not only turn but to turn at the exact right time and in just the right amount,' he added, saying he survived 'by luck or by God'. 'If I only half-turn, it hits the back of the brain. The other way goes right through [my skull]. And because the sign was high, I'm looking up. The chances of my making a perfect turn are probably one tenth of one percent, so I'm not supposed to be here.' 'I'm not supposed to be here, I'm supposed to be dead,' Trump told the New York Post. 'I'm supposed to be dead.' 'Because the thing was an eighth of an inch away. That I would turn exactly at that second, where he [the gunman] wouldn't stop the shot is pretty amazing. Pretty amazing. I'm really not supposed to be here.' Trump turned his head at the vital moment and ended up with a bloody ear. He was hustled off stage by his Secret Service detail, but not before giving his supporters a clenched fist salute. The former president addressed the now-iconic moment where he raised his fist and mouthed 'fight' to the stunned audience. 'A lot of people say it's the most iconic photo they've ever seen,' Trump said. 'They're right and I didn't die. Usually you have to die to have an iconic picture.' He said he wanted his fans to know he was alright 'and that America goes on, we go forward, that we are strong.' 'The energy coming from the people there in that moment, they just stood there; it's hard to describe what that felt like, but I knew the world was looking. I knew that history would judge this, and I knew I had to let them know we are OK,' Trump added. 'I said, I've got to walk out, I have to walk out,' Trump said during his flight to Milwaukee, according to the Examiner. 'I did not want to be carried out. I've seen people being carried out, and it's not good. And I had no problem with walking.' \ Trump was full of praise for his adoring audience, citing how they reacted to the situation. 'A lot of places, especially soccer games, you hear a single shot, everybody runs. Here there were many shots and they stayed. I love them. They are such great people.' Trump accepted Joe Biden's phone call after the shooting, calling it 'fine' and saying the president was 'very nice.' He added that the 'reality is just setting in' with him regarding the shooting and the chaotic aftermath. Trump pointed to his nose and said they killed Crooks 'with one shot right between the eyes.' Despite the controversy over the Secret Service for allowing the shooting to happen, he praised the speed and strength of his security. He said he received a bruise on his arm just from a secret service member keeping him on the floor. 'That's just from a guy grabbing me,' Trump said. 'You know how strong you have to be to do that?' 'They did a fantastic job,' he added. 'It's surreal for all of us.' Trump also saw the bizarre side of the incident, including one moment where he can be seen saying that he wants to get his shoes. 'The agents hit me so hard that my shoes fell off, and my shoes are tight,' he said. Trump, ever the showman, added that he wanted to try and go back to the podium and keep speaking. 'I wanted to keep speaking - I wanted to keep speaking, but I just got shot. It's a very surreal experience, and you never know what you're going to do until a thing like that happens.' Thomas Matthew Crooks, the 20-year-old would-be assassin who shot Donald Trump, opened fire at the former president with an AR-style rifle from a roof 130 yards from the rally stage in Butler, Pennsylvania, on Saturday at 6.15pm. He spoke to journalist Salena Zito, who was photographed at the rally following the gunfire, hiding behind a speaker. Zito said that Trump reached out to her on CNN Sunday, where they began an interview about the shooting, his reaction and his plans for his speech on Thursday at the RNC. 'The speech I was going to give on Thursday was going to be a humdinger,' he told the Washington Examiner. 'Had this not happened, this would've been one of the most incredible speeches aimed mostly at the policies of President Joe Biden. 'Honestly, it's going to be a whole different speech now,' he added. 'I think it would be very bad if I got up and started going wild about how horrible everybody is, and how corrupt and crooked, even if it's true. Had this not happened, we had a speech that was pretty well set that was extremely tough. Now, we have a speech that is more unifying.' Trump, who has often cut a divisive figure in American politics, now plans a Thursday speech that could unite the nation. 'It is a chance to bring the country together. I was given that chance. This is a chance to bring the whole country, even the whole world, together. The speech will be a lot different, a lot different than it would've been two days ago,' he said. It seems to be part of an attempt by both sides to tone down the rhetoric following the shooting. 'I've been fighting a group of people that I considered very bad people for a long time, and they've been fighting me, and we've put up a very good fight,' he said. 'We had a very tough speech, and I threw it out last night, I said I can't say these things after what I've been through.' He still appeared skeptical but hopeful that he could bring Americans of all political stars and stripes together. 'I'd love to achieve unity if you could achieve unity, if that's possible. There are many good people on the other side … But there are also people who are very divided. Some people actually want open borders and some people don't want open borders,' he said. 'The question is can those two sides get together? Can sides where you have people who want to see men play in women's sports, and you have a side that doesn't understand even the concept of allowing that to happen [get together]?' A member of the crowd was killed in the deadly shooting, while two others who were wounded are in critical condition. All three are males, according to law enforcement officials. Trump was left bloodied and hurt during the assassination attempt as he was seen to suddenly grab hold of his ear as loud bangs rang out and whizzed by before he ducked to the floor. The Secret Service swarmed around the 45th US President as piercing screams were heard from the MAGA crowd. He then got to his feet with blood pouring down his cheek and raised his fist in the air and defiantly shouted 'fight' while the audience shouted 'USA' as he was dragged off stage and bundled into a vehicle. Secret Service agents could be heard shouting 'the shooter is down' in the ensuing chaos and the gunman was later confirmed dead. Trump was taken to hospital for treatment before being later released. Spokesman Steven Cheung said Trump is 'fine' and being checked out at a local medical facility while the former president's eldest son Donald Trump Jr said his father 'is in great spirits'. Trump flew back to New Jersey ahead of his spending the night at his golf resort in Bedminster. In a post to his Truth Social network, Trump thanked the Secret Service and other law enforcement 'for their rapid response'. 'I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin,' he said on social media. 'Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. 'I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of law enforcement, for their rapid response,' Trump added. 'Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. 'It is incredible that such an act can take place in our country. 'GOD BLESS AMERICA!' Q | |||
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This happens quite often, especially during an election year. They will shift Agents from Arizona to a detail in New York, Agents from Chicago will go to Kansas all for these events. USSS Offices might actually be closed, or bare bones staffing in the upcoming month or so. Damn near every Agent will be in Milwaukee for the RNC, then here in Chicago for the DNC. The Agents assigned to Trump's detail are on Trump, and were on his Detail yesterday. Those Agents weren't detailed elsewhere. I'm not making any excuses for the USSS, but there's only so many Agents to go around. Even less Counter-Snipers as well. The won't cancel an event, especially this close to an election because of "Security Issues" (ie. lack of Agents). ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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I'll waive the "Bullshit" flag as well! Those Counter-snipers will put a .338 in the threat as soon as they see it. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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I'm at a loss over all of this. I'm thankful that Mr. Trump survived with only a relatively minor wound. It so easily could've been far worse. I'm saddened by the death of a true supporter and the serious injuries to two others. But more than anything I'm appalled over the utter breakdown of Trump's security. That shooter should never have been able to get onto that roof, let alone make his way into a shooting position and then manage to get off shots. And yet he did just that. Amazing...just not in a good way. -MG | |||
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So that means the CSTs either didn't see the threat or didn't recognize a threat. Or didn't have a shot, at least not until the shooter started shooting. Is this what we believe? "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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I believe they didn't see Crooks because the building he was on was outside the security perimeter. They simply weren't looking there until concerned bystanders began signalling to officers. | |||
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Will the fed.gov begin investigating the Democrats and commies (yes, I repeated myself) making statements lamenting President Trump’s survival? Most of those people are deranged enough to try themselves, now that a lone loon < Maxwell Smart voice > missed by that much brain shooting President Trump. Erik Prince’s take. He too, is spot on. https://x.com/realErikDPrince/.../1812538250931642534 Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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I rarely get tears in my eye; this image made it so! Thank you for publishing it!!! No quarter .308/.223 | |||
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Can we redirect to discuss the RNC convention? Because it’s going to be a security theatre shit show of Constitutional rights violations second only to the DNC convention, which will be far worse. Attendees will be hassled, independent media will be hassled. Probably the only people not hassled will be the protestors. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Perhaps the female SS agents should be diverted to Jill and the male counterparts brought over to DJT. I say this because it makes zero sense to have anyone with a smaller frame on his “shielding team” as they cannot possible provide complete coverage to a man of his size. I am not saying there aren’t good female secret service agents. I just think they should be posted in other roles for his security detail not in his bubble. If it won't matter in 5 years don't give it more than 5 minutes. | |||
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Secret Service blames local police, says it was tasked with securing properties surrounding Trump’s Pa. rally https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/...ing-trumps-pa-rally/ The Secret Service blamed local police for failing to secure the rooftop from which gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks attempted to assassinate former President Donald Trump, insisting it was outside of the perimeter the federal agency was tasked with protecting. Instead, securing and patrolling the factory grounds of AGR International Inc. — located about 130 yards from the stage where Trump was speaking Saturday — was the responsibility of local Pennsylvania police, Secret Service representative Anthony Gugliemi said, according the New York Times. The Secret Service was only tasked with covering the grounds where Trump’s rally took place, with local police being recruited to assist with those efforts and secure the area outside of the rally. More at link _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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And the blaming, counter-accusations, denials, and obfuscation begins. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaawwwwww! Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Top. Men. Wow, I am having a hard time maintaining my usual respect for the USSS when they put out drivel like this. Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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If counter snipers were not allowed first shot engagement, that is a great plan to get DT killed. That DT wasn't pulled from the stage the second a man on roof with rifle was seen is amazing. These two factors coupled with that rooftop being unsecured seriously implicate the "security" team. I'm surprised no visible canine units. | |||
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I know that many of you have expressed concern over the FBI leading the investigation of the shooting. My first thought was the fox has been sent to protect the hen house!  But I must admit I don't know who I would trust with the job.If there was ever any doubt about how much of a badass President Trump is that has now been answered. "Do not approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction." John Deacon, Author I asked myself if I was crazy, and we all said no. | |||
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If that agent can't tell the difference between a telescope and an optic on a rifle given the optic he is looking through... he needs a new role. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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Let the blame games begin.  _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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