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Originally posted by kimber1911:
konata88
I added this to my post and did not delete it as someone had already made reference to it.
Perhaps I should have just deleted it, sorry for the confusion.

Edited to add: I guess it was in the news.
Reuters did a Fact Check.
Link

Thanks Kimber - I didn't catch the fact check link that was interleaved into the original article.

So, if I'm understanding correctly now, the testing that was being used could differentiate but the CDC is recommending the adoption of tests that can explicitly detect either (prior method sounds like it would test positive specifically for covid but couldn't make any determination on influenza and not that it would test positive for it).

Good info. You post good stuff - I just want to make sure I understand correctly if/when I need to use the information as a reference. I don't want my arguments to become dubious because some of my points are incorrect.

Here is the CDC’s explanation for the change.
Although I am still skeptical as to their ability to differentiate COVID-19 variants, and influenza.
Which is why I originally believed the news interpretation.

“ A single test that diagnoses current infection with one or more of these viruses allows public health laboratories to continue influenza surveillance while they are also testing for SARS-CoV-2.
Information about both viruses will help public health officials control the spread of influenza and COVID-19 in the community and may help health care providers identify co-infections and provide more targeted treatment for influenza and COVID-19.
Obtaining this information in a single test, rather than having to run separate SARS-CoV-2 tests and influenza tests, will also allow laboratories to conserve important testing materials that are in short supply and process up to three times as many tests as they can with the CDC 2019-nCoV Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel and separate influenza diagnostic tests.”

Link

My oldest daughter got the covid about mid December. She was vaccinated, employer mandate.

Her first jab was in Oct. 2021, the second jab was mid Nov. 2021.
She was having cold symptoms mild fever did a home test and was postive.
Then she went to clinic for another test to confirm, also positive.

So within 30 days of her second jab she still got covid. She did go and get the monoclonal iv. Two days after the monoclonal she was much better, like a bad cold.

The vaccine is worthless.

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Originally posted by Greymann:
My oldest daughter got the covid about mid December. She was vaccinated, employer mandate.

Her first jab was in Oct. 2021, the second jab was mid Nov. 2021.
She was having cold symptoms mild fever did a home test and was postive.
Then she went to clinic for another test to confirm, also positive.

So within 30 days of her second jab she still got covid. She did go and get the monoclonal iv. Two days after the monoclonal she was much better, like a bad cold.

The vaccine is worthless.

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I got COVID about 7 weeks after my vaccination (employer mandated). It was mild, and the doctors told me how much better it was because I was vaccinated. Of course they have no proof of that statement and I don’t believe them. I’m healthy and never have severe illnesses. Totally agree, the vaccine is worthless.

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Originally posted by arabiancowboy:

I got COVID about 7 weeks after my vaccination (employer mandated). It was mild, and the doctors told me how much better it was because I was vaccinated. Of course they have no proof of that statement and I don’t believe them. I’m healthy and never have severe illnesses. Totally agree, the vaccine is worthless.

I agree...

I'd like for those 'doctors' to explain why a friend had very mild symptoms with no vax
While both her fully vaxed neighbors ended up in the hospital?

Kind of backwards eh?

Here’s a dumb question / speculation:

The current test is deterministic only for covid; not deterministic for influenza. As far as i know, these are not mutually exclusive.

We know that historically people die annually from influenza. How do we know that the more serious cases of “covid” were actually not serious cases of influenza?

If you get covid alone, not too serious. If you get covid coincidently with influenza, then you might suffer serious conditions?

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Originally posted by konata88:
Here’s a dumb question / speculation:

The current test is deterministic only for covid; not deterministic for influenza. As far as i know, these are not mutually exclusive.

We know that historically people die annually from influenza. How do we know that the more serious cases of “covid” were actually not serious cases of influenza?

If you get covid alone, not too serious. If you get covid coincidently with influenza, then you might suffer serious conditions?

The FDA and CDC have waisted billions of dollars in the last 2 years and still don't provide basic answers to the public, in fact they make up things to feed their narrative. The CDC said 2 weeks ago that 73% of all new Covid cases were the Omicron variant in the U.S. A week later they revise that down to 22%.

Heads need to roll at these agencies.

Well, at least those of us here in PA can breathe a sigh of relief. We're going to have FEDERAL STRIKE TEAMS deployed to two of our hospitals.

These "strike teams" will increase the critical care bed capacity by 30 more beds, divided between a hospital in Scranton & one in York, so everything's OK now.

FEDERAL STRIKE TEAMS! OMG! How Awesome Is That!

Here's the link to the story if you want to read about this blessed event, but it's just a bunch of horse poop.
https://www.fox43.com/article/...70-a150-d836ee0676b4

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Originally posted by Ironbutt:
Well, at least those of us here in PA can breathe a sigh of relief. We're going to have FEDERAL STRIKE TEAMS deployed to two of our hospitals.

Durka durka jihad

So my daughter just received a letter from her school district giving them until January 10th to prove vaccination status. It basically states the OSHA ETS verification mandate will likely take effect Jan, 10th and she is instructed on how to upload her verification status. As of now she does not plan to respond but she fears in the end she will have no choice.

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It basically states the OSHA ETS verification mandate will likely take effect Jan, 10th

The SC will be hearing the case against the OSHA mandate on Jan 7th, hopefully they will issue an injunction before the 10th.

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Originally posted by mbinky:

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It basically states the OSHA ETS verification mandate will likely take effect Jan, 10th

The SC will be hearing the case against the OSHA mandate on Jan 7th, hopefully they will issue an injunction before the 10th.

Exactly why she is not responding.

Four people at work yesterday got COVID three I work with one in a different department. Unsure of vaccine status because they don't give out people's names just area of travel through the buildings. I took the week off so I don't get to hear the gossip on jabbed vs unjabbed.

Not sure how long the media can sustain the case count nonsense...it's just silly. Is anyone still following this nonsense?

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Originally posted by wcb6092:

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Originally posted by konata88:
Here’s a dumb question / speculation:

The current test is deterministic only for covid; not deterministic for influenza. As far as i know, these are not mutually exclusive.

We know that historically people die annually from influenza. How do we know that the more serious cases of “covid” were actually not serious cases of influenza?

If you get covid alone, not too serious. If you get covid coincidently with influenza, then you might suffer serious conditions?

The FDA and CDC have waisted billions of dollars in the last 2 years and still don't provide basic answers to the public, in fact they make up things to feed their narrative. The CDC said 2 weeks ago that 73% of all new Covid cases were the Omicron variant in the U.S. A week later they revise that down to 22%.

Heads need to roll at these agencies.

”The CDC said” ?
Are you referring to a report or staged talking head media appearance?

I don’t know that I’ve seen a COVID press conference that allowed for the Washington pool reporters to freely question the President, FDA, CDC, NIH.

Seems President Trump had wide open access nearly everyday for those running the show to be questioned.

There seems to be no open access to question the Circus Ringleaders in the Biden/Harris administration.

Took the holidays off and just scan a news outlet. Since the case count is, by direct admission by the CDC an others, conflating flu and also "with Covid" alongside "by" Covid, it was never accurate. It was deliberately inflated to make the numbers as large as possible from the very beginning. 2020 flu was essentially non existent when the PCR test is all reported to be Covid.

It's becoming obvious that the average citizen nationwide has heard people cry Wolf! one too many times and they are basically ignoring it now. About the only mask wearers are older seniors (younger than me and I get a stare) plus unattached young women and children who have no choice in the matter.

Omicron is just more salt in the wound with case numbers getting more vague while the drumbeat of "get the vaxx" overshadows most of information. The homeless population is still healthy and robust here, no flatbeds picking up the dead, and the flu is once again counted inappropriately.

If anything the Big Freeze Saturday is getting more attention. Another snow storm tracking the northern tier again. As usual we are on the ice line. Time for concrete blocks in the bed of the truck before Friday nite.

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Originally posted by Ironbutt:
Well, at least those of us here in PA can breathe a sigh of relief. We're going to have FEDERAL STRIKE TEAMS deployed to two of our hospitals.

These "strike teams" will increase the critical care bed capacity by 30 more beds, divided between a hospital in Scranton & one in York, so everything's OK now.

FEDERAL STRIKE TEAMS! OMG! How Awesome Is That!

Here's the link to the story if you want to read about this blessed event, but it's just a bunch of horse poop.
https://www.fox43.com/article/...70-a150-d836ee0676b4

50% of all the ICU beds in the 4 hospitals in my county are occupied by mental health victims. That's the issue. And then there's the overdose element that floods the ER's every night. Maybe the Strike Team can assist with this.

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
So my daughter just received a letter from her school district giving them until January 10th to prove vaccination status. It basically states the OSHA ETS verification mandate will likely take effect Jan, 10th and she is instructed on how to upload her verification status. As of now she does not plan to respond but she fears in the end she will have no choice.

My fear was that the government would hold funding over the head of schools to push vaccination. Everyone is vaccinated or else you lose federal funding. That was the same thing they were trying when the transgender issue blew up about 6 years ago. Absolutely ridiculous.

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Originally posted by Tirod:
The homeless population is still healthy and robust here, no flatbeds picking up the dead, and the flu is once again counted inappropriately.

Perhaps the CDC should study the homeless.
Why are they immune from COVID?

Perhaps the best protection from COVID is simply a fifth of whiskey nightly.

Surely if the homeless were dying en masse, we would know about it.
Why are the homeless seemingly protected, an honest question.

$58 Billion annually and no studies on Natural Immunity.

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
Perhaps the CDC should study the homeless.
Why are they immune from COVID?

....
Why are the homeless seemingly protected, an honest question.

They don't watch the news?