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I'd like to think that the vaccine was originally effective, but Delta rendered it only barely effective and boosters actually work. Now I'm leaning towards flannels.


Seems like the more I read, the more I read that it was in no way effectively planned for long term, and the way the spike proteins work, it was obvious that the “vaccine” efficacy was doomed to fail eventually.
'Efficacy' is a twofold proposition. One, how well does it stand up to the virus and protect against adverse symptoms, and two, how long (durable) does the protection last? What appears to be reality is that these MRNA vaccines 'might' provide the claimed protection from adverse symptoms for a couple months, but that protection fades quickly and is all but gone by month 5/6, hence the reason boosters are now required. How effective will the boosters be, and how long will they last? No one knows. What wonderful medications they are. Roll Eyes


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These criminals had no idea what these experimental vaccines would do- they were never trialed. You know, that thing they’re supposed to do?




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FDA asks for 55 years to release data on Pfizer's COVID vaccine

https://www.israelnationalnews...ews/News.aspx/317161

In response to a Freedom of Information Act request (FOIA) filed over three months ago, in August of 2021, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has asked a federal judge for 55 years to review its data before releasing it to the public in its entirety.

The data refers to the FDA’s decision to license what is now known as the Comirnaty vaccine against Covid-19, produced by Pfizer in collaboration with BioNTech. Back in November of 2020, when considering Pfizer-BioNTech’s request for emergency use authorization (EUA) of its product, the FDA promised that:

“In keeping with the FDA’s commitment to ensuring full transparency, dialogue and efficiency, the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee … will meet to discuss the totality and safety and effectiveness data provided … The FDA understands there is tremendous public interest regarding vaccines for COVID-19. We remain committed to keeping the public informed about the evaluation of the data … so that once available, the public and the medical community can have trust and confidence in receiving the vaccine for our families and ourselves.”

In response to a Freedom of Information Act request (FOIA) filed over three months ago, in August of 2021, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has asked a federal judge for 55 years to review its data before releasing it to the public in its entirety.

The data refers to the FDA’s decision to license what is now known as the Comirnaty vaccine against Covid-19, produced by Pfizer in collaboration with BioNTech. Back in November of 2020, when considering Pfizer-BioNTech’s request for emergency use authorization (EUA) of its product, the FDA promised that:

“In keeping with the FDA’s commitment to ensuring full transparency, dialogue and efficiency, the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee … will meet to discuss the totality and safety and effectiveness data provided … The FDA understands there is tremendous public interest regarding vaccines for COVID-19. We remain committed to keeping the public informed about the evaluation of the data … so that once available, the public and the medical community can have trust and confidence in receiving the vaccine for our families and ourselves.”


In September of 2021, when amending its EUA to include booster doses, the FDA reiterated its commitment to transparency, writing:

“As we learn more about the safety and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines … we will continue to evaluate the rapidly changing science and keep the public informed…”

The FDA noted at the time that it was studying data provided not only by Pfizer-BioNTech, but also from the “Israeli Ministry of Health, the University of Bristol, U.K. and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC].”

Meanwhile, a group of over 30 academics, professors, and scientists had submitted a request for the data the FDA had pledged to provide for public perusal. The group, known as the Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency (PHMPT) includes reputed professionals such as Professor Harvey Risch, an epidemiologist at Yale School of Public Health, and others affiliated with Harvard, UCLA, and Brown.

When a month passed without a response from the FDA, Siri & Glimstad LLP filed a lawsuit on behalf of PHMPT against the FDA requesting that the “Court enter an order requiring the FDA to produce all documents and data submitted by Pfizer … 108 days from today,” noting that, “This 108-day period is the same amount of time it took the FDA to review the responsive documents for the far more intricate task of licensing Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine.”

They added that, “To require less is to render FOIA meaningless, the FDA’s promise of transparency a lie, and to send a signal to every American that while the federal executive branch is shielding Pfizer from any liability for injuries from its product and requiring employers, schools, hospitals and the military to expel those that don’t receive this product, it is protecting the very documents Pfizer provided to our taxpayer-funded health agency to obtain licensure to be able to sell this product.”

In its response, the FDA wrote that:

“FDA proposes to process and produce the non-exempt portions of responsive records at a rate of 500 pages per month,” at which rate the entire body of data it intends to release (which is only the non-exempt portions) will not be released before the year 2076.

The FDA further noted that, “Plaintiff’s request (as set forth below) that FDA process and produce the non-exempt portions of more than 329,000 pages in four months would force FDA to process more than 80,000 pages per month,” and explained that it lacked the necessary staff to process the data any faster.

The FDA added that due to the nature of the data, it would be obligated to take especial care with releasing it in order to avoid compromising “confidential business and trade secret information of Pfizer or BioNTech…” which meant that it would have to go through the data “on a line-by-line basis.”

“As should be apparent,” the FDA continued, “the review conducted by FDA scientists when considering to approve a product is entirely different from the review conducted by FDA government information specialists when considering whether FDA must keep certain information confidential.”

Furthermore, the FDA denied that it was required to release the data in a timely fashion, writing that, “FDA’s regulations do not require or suggest that FDA will release all publicly releasable data immediately after a biologics license application is approved.”

Responding to the FDA’s arguments, Aaron Siri of Siri & Glimstad said in a statement, “It was exactly 108 days for the FDA from the time Pfizer started releasing the licensing records to the time the FDA licensed the Pfizer vaccine. Taking the FDA’s word for it, it has conducted an intensive, reliable, thorough and complete review and analysis of these documents to ensure that Pfizer’s vaccine is safe and effective for licensing. While it can do a thorough review of Pfizer documents in 108 days, it now takes more than 20,000 days to make those documents publicly available.”


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Hopefully a whistleblower with some integrity at Pfizer will release the documents. 55 years? That screams “coverup”.




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Scottish Lockdowns Vs. Swedish Freedom — Who Won?

STORY AT-A-GLANCE

In a short documentary, CAN Films explored pandemic outcomes in Scotland, which began requiring vaccine passports October 1, 2021, with those of Sweden, which rejected forced lockdowns in favor of voluntary measures
With half the population of Sweden, Scotland scored a higher excess death rate for 2020, with much more restrictive pandemic responses
Sweden fared better than Scotland on many pandemic outcome measures, including excess deaths, weight gain, alcohol-related deaths, inflation and economic viability
Sweden did not mandate face masks at any point during the pandemic and, in July 2021, also dropped their “vague recommendation” to wear one at all
Scotland implemented a vaccine passport requirement October 1, 2021; backlash from hospitality and other groups has ensued

Whether or not lockdowns and other restrictive measures worked to reduce COVID-19 deaths is a topic of great debate, one that was recently explored by CAN Films. In a short documentary, they explore pandemic outcomes in Scotland, which began requiring vaccine passports October 1, 2021, with those of Sweden, which rejected forced lockdowns in favor of voluntary measures.

The numbers, they said, speak for themselves. “With half the population of Sweden, Scotland scored a higher excess death rate for 2020, having imposed all the draconian rules we’d had in England and even more. Now, they were the first in the U.K. to introduce vaccine passports.”





https://noqreport.com/2021/11/...ish-freedom-who-won/



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93%-Vaccinated Ireland Has Gone Back Into 'Partial Lockdown', Including Midnight Curfew

Amid what's being called a fourth wave of infections to hit highly vaccinated Ireland, the government on Tuesday unveiled new Covid-related restrictions at a moment many are now worried the country could be headed toward a full nationwide lockdown before Christmas.

The new measures take effect Friday, despite government officials confirming that at least 93% of all of Ireland's eligible population are fully vaccinated. This makes Ireland among the most vaccinated countries in the world, and yet similar to what the UK, Israel, and more recently Austria have experienced, infection rates are still exploding.



The new Irish restrictions, which is being dubbed a semi-lockdown, include a nationwide midnight curfew, new 'work from home' guidelines encouraging all who are able to do their job from home, as well as stricter implementation of already existing Covid passes - which will now be required by law in cinemas and theaters.

Entering the holiday season, it's the midnight curfew that's especially controversial - given it will disproportionately hit pubs, restaurants, and entertainment venues the hardest.

One bar industry organization, the Vintners' Federation of Ireland (VFI), representing some 4,000 Irish pub-owners (or publicans), reacted as follows:

"The news that restricted trading hours are set to be reintroduced is a hugely disappointing development for the many late-night pubs and night clubs many of whom will now be forced to shut just three weeks after reopening."

The statement spelled out that "The decision to introduce a new closing time of midnight will effectively close many late-night pubs and nightclubs. It will also seriously restrict other outlets at the most critical time of the year."

Many of these have already survived over a year of on-and-off again forced closures since the start of pandemic, gutting the hospitality industry which is only just now starting to re-emerge.

As has been the pattern, many Irish officials and pundits are blaming the unvaccinated, despite mainstream media outlets like Sky News pointing out the obvious:

The 14-day incidence of the disease currently stands at 959 per 100,000 people.

This is despite having one of the most vaccinated populations, with around 93% of all adults fully vaccinated.

https://www.zerohedge.com/medi...ding-midnight-curfew



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More proof that locking down does FAR more harm than good. The crud is never going to go away. Thanks to the CCCP, it is loose on this planet forever. No snake oil vaccine is the answer, at least the stuff they’re peddling now.

As for my own personal situation, in less than a weeks time, I’m over all but the lingering mucus one gets from any cold or flu. No temperature in days, no malaise, loss of appetite, or hint of secondary bacterial infection. I’m sleeping well, no more daytime Covid naps, and up with the alarm at 5:30. Soaking up some vitamin D giving rays on the back porch with the dogs and feeling great. I feel fine to work and hit the gym, but I won’t until I’m sure I’m not infectious.




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Well, I should know today or by tomorrow whether or not I have the covid. I don’t think I do but when I explained my symptoms my local urgent care acted like I told them I had just been exposed to anthrax. I had to leave wait in my car and come in the side entrance to a room right next to the exit. All that over what is likely some other nasty virus and
/or a possible allergic reaction to something.


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93%-Vaccinated Ireland Has Gone Back Into 'Partial Lockdown', Including Midnight Curfew

Because, as we all know, Covid is not infectious until after midnight. Roll Eyes

These people cannot be this stupid.


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so tired of it. Been wearing an N95 mask for almost 2 years at work. Worked a 16 hour shift on tuesday and checked facebook.

A HS classmate posted the following. I am being intubated. I may not make it. I love you all.

And that is gut wrenching.
 
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Sorry to hear this Ronin- if you know, were they vaccinated or not?




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I do not know if he was vaccinated but if I had to guess I would say no.

My parents were not vaccinated and they both caught it. My father had two trips to the ER in the month that he was sick. He said he was going to get vaccinated when he was eligble. but we will see
 
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My local McDonalds has 24-hour breakfast menu. I wonder if this will work ??? God Bless Smile


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DeSantis is going to Brandon, FL today to sign bills banning Biden’s vaxx mandate hahahahahahahaha
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"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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Let’s go Brandon! Big Grin




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Hahaha, dude is a master politician and troll.


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Biden Purchases Ten Million Courses of Pfizer COVID Pills for $5.3 Billion, Equals $530 Per Treatment Course
November 18, 2021

This is a small example of the stunning graft and hypocrisy within the ideological Biden administration.

The White House has announced {SEE HERE} they are purchasing ten million courses of the new Pfizer COVID therapeutic treatment pill called Paxlovid.

[…] “Today, I’m announcing that we have purchased 10 million treatment courses of the Pfizer antiviral COVID-19 pill, with delivery starting at the end of this year and across 2022.” (link)

The Biden payment to Pfizer is for $5.3 billion {link} At 10 million courses that equals $530 per treatment.

Laughably the White House says “pending FDA approval“, as if the FDA would not approve the Pfizer pill.

Pretending not to know things, just two days ago the White House Press Secretary said this:



Keep in mind the U.S. taxpayer fully subsidized the research and development for the entire spectrum of COVID-19 treatments and vaccines. The development cost the private pharmaceutical companies, in this example Pfizer, absolutely nothing.

We the taxpayers fund the COVID pill development through Pfizer, and then we the taxpayers purchase the final product from Pfizer; in this example for $5.3 billion. It’s a big money laundry. (Plus 10% for the big guy)

$5.3 billion nets 10 million treatments, or roughly $530.00 per treatment. At 30 pills per course each pill costs $17.67

https://theconservativetreehou...er-treatment-course/



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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I have 4 co-workers that contracted COVID this month. (they all travel extensively)

2 had the Pfizer & Moderna jabs and 2 didn't take anything. They are all feeling equally as shitty.

I am putting this out there because rarely will you hear anyone talking about Covid cases among those who took the jabs.
 
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I find it curious that the FDA is asking the court to seal all of the Pfizer covid data for 55 years.

I wonder what it is they’re trying to hide - evidence of fraud and collusion, falsified data?
 
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I find it curious that the FDA is asking the court to seal all of the Pfizer covid data for 55 years.

I wonder what it is they’re trying to hide - evidence of fraud and collusion, falsified data?


Or maybe the FDA has never read the data. They just approved it anyway.


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