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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by kx90:
Is this chart legit?

I don't know about the rest of the numbers, but the number for the Covid-19 "vaccines" is accurate.

Entering "Covid-19 vaccine" into their search yields 2510797 ADRs for 2021.

I come up with 272435 for influenza vaccines for 1968 through 2021. I don't know whether that's because of updated information since that chart was posted or because I fat-fingered something. Either way: It's a difference of merely 0.09%.

Anybody who cares to can pick another drug and spot-check it if they'd like.

Here's an interesting stat: There were a total of 1,771,662 ADRs reported for all the others listed from 1968 through 2021 (so far). There were 2,456,386 ADRs reported for the various Covid-19 "vaccines" in 2020 and 2021.

In less than two years there have been nearly half-again as many ADRs reported for Covid-19 "vaccines" as there have been for all the others for the last 53 years.

Ivermectin is within about 20

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opening day of deer gun season.

if I were you, I would quarantine myself in the woods away from folks for 2 full weeks,

I'm thinking about self quarantining in January around the time the rut kicks in

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Originally posted by bdylan:
This country will never fully recover from this hysteria. People are literally frightened that a sick individual might meander about in public!!! It's a ludicrous new world that isn't in any way sustainable, but fear is the real killer.

Exactly. I’d be willing to bet that a vast majority of infections are spread by people that didn’t even know they have Covid. In fact, we received an email THIS MORNING from the organizer of my sons retreat saying that it’s “possible one of the kids on the bus may have been contagious with Covid”. The retreat was 11/6,7. Yeah, I think we can put that one to rest. As to going out and getting needed supplies, yes, I would if it is a necessity. I’ll use hand sanitizer to make sure my hands are sterile, I’ll even wear the mask to limit infection, but as others have said, this shit isn’t going away. And now that people that have been “vaccinated” can and do spread it, probably more than sick purebloods that know they have it we should, what- quarantine the entire nation for 14 days like the Chinese? Which failed anyway.

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Originally posted by Mr. Peteroniman:

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opening day of deer gun season.

if I were you, I would quarantine myself in the woods away from folks for 2 full weeks,

I'm thinking about self quarantining in January around the time the rut kicks in

I like the way you think- we’ll see how I feel opening day

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Originally posted by triggertreat:
Ivermectin is within about 20

About 20 what?

The VigiAccess site claims 1171 ADRs for Ivermectin in 2021.

Btw: Monoclonal Antibodies (mAbs): 83 ADRs from 2004 through 2021.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by triggertreat:
Ivermectin is within about 20

About 20 what?

The VigiAccess site claims 1171 ADRs for Ivermectin in 2021.

Btw: Monoclonal Antibodies (mAbs): 83 ADRs from 2004 through 2021.

Total ADRs like reported on the sheet above that was in question

OSHA has suspended implementation of its vaccine mandate: natlawreview.com/article/osha-suspends-emergency-temporary-standard-covid-19-vaccinations-and-testing

My opinion: They knew when passing it that it would be challenged, stayed, and likely ultimately fail. Now they have the best of both worlds - they can say they both did nothing and everything in their power. Congress will, of course, continue to do nothing and blame others.

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Originally posted by Muddflap:
feersum, I can’t seem to find that table you posted. Could you provide a link please?

It came from here - https://twitter.com/jmrevelho/.../1460685043626651659

I checked the COVID and a few other, and those numbers were legit.

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Originally posted by DaveL:
OSHA has suspended implementation of its vaccine mandate: natlawreview.com/article/osha-suspends-emergency-temporary-standard-covid-19-vaccinations-and-testing

My opinion: They knew when passing it that it would be challenged, stayed, and likely ultimately fail. Now they have the best of both worlds - they can say they both did nothing and everything in their power. Congress will, of course, continue to do nothing and blame others.

GREAT!!!! But not enough - need this to apply to the fed contractor mandate as well.

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Then challenge the executive branch mandate. If “ending the pandemic” is so important, why are the judicial and legislative branches immune from mandates?

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Originally posted by egregore:

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Treat it like the flu. No vaccine mandates. No mask mandates. No business closures. Life like normal. Wash your hands and stay home if you're feeling ill.

I think - and just my opinion - that if this had been done in the first place, the illness and deaths wouldn't have been much, if any, worse.

Agree 100%. IF we actually counted deaths DUE to Covid instead of deaths with Covid, this would be no more than a strong flu. But Government cant exert control and steal trillions of dollars and rig elections for a strong flu, so we have COVID.

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Originally posted by DaveL:
OSHA has suspended implementation of its vaccine mandate: natlawreview.com/article/osha-suspends-emergency-temporary-standard-covid-19-vaccinations-and-testing

My opinion: They knew when passing it that it would be challenged, stayed, and likely ultimately fail. Now they have the best of both worlds - they can say they both did nothing and everything in their power. Congress will, of course, continue to do nothing and blame others.

I'm not finding any other sources for that piece of news.

Any other outlets covering it?

https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/ets2

On November 12, 2021, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit granted a motion to stay OSHA's COVID-19 Vaccination and Testing Emergency Temporary Standard, published on November 5, 2021 (86 Fed. Reg. 61402) ("ETS"). The court ordered that OSHA "take no steps to implement or enforce" the ETS "until further court order." While OSHA remains confident in its authority to protect workers in emergencies, OSHA has suspended activities related to the implementation and enforcement of the ETS pending future developments in the litigation.

Other links:

https://www.natlawreview.com/a...-vaccine-rule-future

https://www.natlawreview.com/a...inations-and-testing

https://www.jdsupra.com/legaln...y-temporary-7790005/

https://www.shrm.org/resources...comply-with-ets.aspx

Not being reported in 'the News' of course, but it doesn't fit the preferred narrative, so not surprising. We'll need to give them some time so they can figure out how to spin it...

Doesn't do anything for fed contractors, I hope to see that challenged.

^^^ I think the entire mandate narrative is beginning to collapse... could be wishful thinking.

The Sixth Circuit will decide the OSHA ETS for all circuits. A fairly conservative one.

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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:

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Originally posted by Muddflap:
feersum, I can’t seem to find that table you posted. Could you provide a link please?

It came from here - https://twitter.com/jmrevelho/.../1460685043626651659

I checked the COVID and a few other, and those numbers were legit.

OK, thanks. I went to that Vigiaccess web site, and poked around, and couldn't find anything that looked like that table.

Conservative-Majority Court Chosen to Decide on Biden’s Private Employer Vaccine Mandate

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...pOE%2FWAReR2jD1VqE82

An appeals court dominated by Republican-nominated judges was chosen at random Tuesday to deal with the flurry of lawsuits against the Biden administration’s private business COVID-19 vaccine mandate.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit was the winner of a lottery that was triggered by multiple appeals courts receiving challenges to the mandate, which was promulgated at the behest of President Joe Biden and would affect every business with 100 or more workers if it’s allowed to take effect.

Thirty-four petitions for review, or suits, were filed against the mandate. At least one petition was filed in every single court of appeals in the nation.

Federal law says that challenges to a rule in multiple appeals courts shall lead to a lottery, from which one court is picked. That court then handles the cases, which are consolidated.

The Sixth Circuit oversees Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, and Tennessee. Active and senior status judges include six nominees of former President Donald Trump, eight nominees of former President George W. Bush, three nominees of former President George H. W. Bush, three nominees of former President Ronald Reagan, five nominees of former President Bill Clinton, and two nominees of former President Barack Obama. That means 20 of the 27 judges were nominated by Republican presidents.

“It’s not good news for Biden,” Lawrence Gostin, director of the O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law, wrote on Twitter.

A Sixth Circuit panel will decide whether to keep in place a stay of the mandate that was ordered on Nov. 6 by three Republican-nominated judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit.

The judges said the mandate raised “grave statutory and constitutional issues.”

In a longer opinion reaffirming the stay, the panel said the mandate imposes a financial burden on businesses, “exposes them to severe financial risk if they refuse or fail to comply, and threatens to decimate their workforces (and business prospects) by forcing unwilling employees to take their shots, take their tests, or hit the road.”

Three judges in the newly chosen circuit will be randomly picked to hear the case. Their decision can be appealed to the full court.

The Supreme Court is expected to ultimately rule on whether the mandate is legal.

Plaintiffs argue the mandate is outside the authority of the Department of Labor’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), which issued it earlier this month. They say the Biden administration failed to explain why such a mandate is needed now, when the COVID-19 pandemic started in March 2020 and vaccines have been available since late last year.

“This mandate represents the greatest overreach by the federal government in a generation. It is illegal and unconstitutional and we are committed to ensuring it never sees the light of day,” Patrick Hughes, president and co-founder of the Liberty Justice Center, and one of the lawyers fighting the mandate, said in a recent statement.

Biden administration officials have defended the vaccination requirement, arguing OSHA can impose measures to keep workers safe.

“If OSHA can tell people to wear a hard hat on the job, to be careful around chemicals, it can put in place these simple measures to keep our workers safe,” Ron Klain, the White House chief of staff, said on NBC over the weekend.

Ron Klain looks to be eat up with the Dumbass…

“If OSHA can tell people to wear a hard hat on the job, to be careful around chemicals, it can put in place these simple measures to keep our workers safe,” Ron Klain, the White House chief of staff, said on NBC over the weekend.

Ok Ron, you pos, here’s an analogy for YOU. You should be able to pick the kind of hard hat you wear. Natural immunity is a better designed, more effect helmet than one that starts to crack and fail after 4-6 months, requiring you to get a new hard hat.