I had a good laugh.

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Originally posted by PASig:
I’ve been really reluctant and quite anti-Covid vaccine from the beginning with this but I’ve gone ahead and scheduled the J&J shot for Monday morning.

My 27 year old nephew dying from Covid this week really shook me and then the final straw was hearing from my good friend Friday night that a co-worker of his, age 48 and the same age as me, also with young children, caught it and died this week as well.

It’s the complete randomness of how this hits people that’s finally made me make up my own mind . Why is it my Dad age 76 got it recently and was fine but his 27 year old grandson is now a jar of ashes because of it?

As it should be. You've weighed the pros and cons and made YOUR choice. It's the forced vaccination or lose your job I don't agree with.

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Originally posted by DSgrouse:
I had a good laugh.

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I liked the content, but could only watch for a few minutes. Too over the top for me.

This is good

Apparently there is a masked nativity scene on Amazon. Someone put in a review that is awesome and they published it. If you scroll down to reviews and set them to most recent it's a few down. Bravo to whomever did this!





https://smile.amazon.com/Nativ...ps%2C617&sr=8-1&th=1

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As it should be. You've weighed the pros and cons and made YOUR choice. It's the forced vaccination or lose your job I don't agree with.

+1.
Yep. As long as it’s not forced or coerced.

Sen. Ron Johnson: There Is Not An FDA Approved COVID Vaccine In the US

Senator Ron Johnson, R-Wisc., claimed that the U.S. still doesn’t have an FDA-approved vaccine as he exposed what was really approved by the government agency on “Fox News Primetime.”

SEN. RON JOHNSON: We do not have an FDA–approved vaccine being administered in the U.S. The FDA played a bait and switch. They approved the Comirnaty version of Pfizer drugs. It’s not available in the U.S. They even admit it. I sent them a letter three days later going “What are you doing?”

What they did is they extended the emergency use authorization for the Pfizer drug vaccine that’s available in the U.S., here that’s more than 30 days later, they haven’t asked that very simple question. If you’re saying that the Pfizer drug is the same as the Comirnaty, why didn’t you provide FDA approval on that? So, there’s not an FDA-approved drug and, of course, they announced it so they could push through these mandates so that people actually think, “Oh, OK now these things are FDA approved.” They are not and again, maybe they should be, but the FDA isn’t telling me why.

Link

Link to Fox News interview

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Originally posted by Copefree:
Trapper — thanks for taking the time to type out exactly where my mind was at too.

The work is all maladat's, all I did was quote his post from 881 of this thread. It was a good analysis of what stkfox posted on that page which is the same basic information chellim1 on page 885.

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It was a good analysis of what stkfox posted on that page which is the same basic information chellim1 on page 885.

I think it's an interesting analysis.
I guess it raises the question "Are these deaths what we would call 'excess deaths', meaning above and beyond what you would expect in a given time period?"

I don't have the numbers, but I heard or read somewhere that other than in early 2020 there were few excess deaths throughout the nearly 2 years we have been dealing with this pandemic.

ETA:
Apparently, deaths were above the expected line for much of 2020, and then spiked again in 2021:

Excess deaths dropped to pre-pandemic levels in July. Then came the Delta variant

Heart disease and cancer are the top two causes of death in 2021 so far.

https://usafacts.org/articles/...eEAMYASAAEgLMs_D_BwE

Note: This is a provisional report: Provisional Mortality Data — United States, 2020

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The age-adjusted death rate increased by 15.9% in 2020.

That's a fairly significant jump, if accurate.

The real question is, why would you believe anything coming from the entities? I mean really. Were have you been if you do?

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:

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Originally posted by Warhorse:
My wife went for her infusion for Covid this afternoon. She was given casirivimab-imdevimab, and sodium chloride 0.9%. Handwritten below that was Regen-Cov.
I hope she feels better tomorrow.

Good morning, Warhorse. Just checking in to see how Mrs. Warhorse is feeling today. Please let us know. Prayers to y'all...

Thank you for asking. She did not sleep well last night, and was feeling a little worse this morning, after going back to sleep at 9:00am and getting up at ~12:30pm, she just informed me she feels a little better, about the same as yesterday. Thank you for your prayers.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
The real question is, why would you believe anything coming from the entities?

This is a valid question and my answer is that I don't believe them.

^^^ I will NEVER believe ANYTHING they say EVER again!

To Comply, or Not to Comply: Virginia State Employee Chooses Termination Over Obedience

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...5YCvsrAAgKgMllReTXRy

For Nancy Orr, the decision to make her own medical decisions came with a high price.

Getting fired in September from her executive assistant position at Richmond’s Library of Virginia wasn’t exactly a surprise, however, because, as she told The Epoch Times, she saw it coming.

“Like many people at the beginning of this, I wore a mask, and tried to honor what they were recommending,” Orr said.

In December 2020, she had contracted the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, commonly known as the novel coronavirus, the pathogen that causes COVID-19.

Her physician, Leland Stillman, who has now moved his practice (Leland Stillman, MD) from Virginia to Orlando, Florida, had prescribed her ivermectin, which she said reduced her symptoms within hours.

Stillman told The Epoch Times that Orr was one of many patients he had prescribed ivermectin beginning last year, “with great results.”

“I still prescribe it to patients because I don’t see any downsides, and there are tremendous upsides,” Stillman said. “What kind of doctor doesn’t prescribe a therapy that he knows is effective, with documented efficacy in the literature, and is safer than Tylenol?”

Orr said she now has lab-verified immunity.

“But that’s not recognized under this executive order,” Orr said.

In August, Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam enacted an executive order that requires state employees to show proof of vaccination or be tested weekly.

Orr said she stopped wearing the mask months prior because she said, in addition to having natural immunity, wearing the mask causes her respiratory distress, raising her heart rate, which leads to high blood pressure.

To Comply, Or Not To Comply
After having COVID-19, she considered the testing, mask, and vaccine unnecessary for her, but as government guidelines turned into mandates, the ominous choice loomed: to comply, or not to comply.

“I could not in good conscience participate in the process because I see it explicitly as a vaccine passport,” Orr said. “They don’t have the right to that information. They don’t have the right to segregate people based on their medical status, and it’s not based on anything scientific because we now know that the fully vaccinated can be infected and transmit the virus.”

Privileging people based on their medical status is discriminatory, Orr added.

“It’s immoral, unethical, illegal, and unconstitutional,” Orr said.

She considered the religious and medical exemption that was available due to her COVID-19-recovered status, but decided against it.

“I just realized that if I chose a medical exemption, I would be validating or even declaring participation by declaring my vaccine status, and it’s simply none of their damn business,” Orr said. “It’s private medical information, and just because someone issues an executive order, that doesn’t make it legal, and it certainly doesn’t make it moral or ethical.”

Americans With Disability Act Defense
Orr said she turned to an individual rights advocacy organization called The Zunga, described by one of its members, John Jay Singleton, as an organization of professionals that provides representation for people to exercise their rights within the framework of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA).

According to Singleton on The Zunga’s website, “Everyone is regarded as having a disability, being that everyone is regarded as having a contagious disease. This is where it all begins: everyone can express their rights that are being violated through the Americans with Disabilities Act.”

Under the COVID-19 protocols, Orr said people are classified as having an infection, which is a qualifying disability under the ADA.

Because of this, she said, if one is deemed disabled, that person has the right to invoke protection under the ADA, which she said means she has the right to decline “any accommodation” that is being offered, such as the testing, masks, and vaccines.

Using templates and guidance from her membership with The Zunga, she filed a complaint of discrimination against the Library of Virginia and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

“There is an active investigation,” Orr said. “I will also be filing a federal lawsuit for wrongful termination, discrimination, and retaliation based on the disability they regarded me as having, which resulted in the termination of my employment.”

At 63 years old, Orr said she had planned on working at the library until she retired.

Uncomfortable and Distressing
“I’m not a person of significant means, so I’m taking a considerable financial hit,” Orr said. “It’s been uncomfortable and distressing.”

Orr doesn’t expect to triumph with her complaint against the library, she said, “since medicine and government have been weaponized,” adding that she doesn’t think she’ll even be able to get unemployment.

“But I’m following through because this is in alignment with what I believe to be true,” Orr said.

Meanwhile, she said, she’s moving on with her life, getting involved politically, and seeking out others who are not complying.

‘No Strings on Me’
Leading up to her termination, she experienced anxiety and sleepless nights, she said, as narratives around COVID-19 policies veered further out of the bounds of rationality.

“I couldn’t stomach it anymore,” Orr said. “I personally see everyone involved in this as complicit in criminal activity in perpetuating Gov. Northam’s order.”

At the very least, her consolation today is that she is free, proclaiming: “there are no strings on me.”

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Originally posted by SIG228:

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Originally posted by PASig:
I’ve been really reluctant and quite anti-Covid vaccine from the beginning with this but I’ve gone ahead and scheduled the J&J shot for Monday morning.

My 27 year old nephew dying from Covid this week really shook me and then the final straw was hearing from my good friend Friday night that a co-worker of his, age 48 and the same age as me, also with young children, caught it and died this week as well.

It’s the complete randomness of how this hits people that’s finally made me make up my own mind . Why is it my Dad age 76 got it recently and was fine but his 27 year old grandson is now a jar of ashes because of it?

As it should be. You've weighed the pros and cons and made YOUR choice. It's the forced vaccination or lose your job I don't agree with.

Agreed, but just also factor in that there is 'zero' long term data to support the comment that this vaccine is 'safe'. No one knows what the vaccines 'might' do to your internal systems over a number of years. I fully grasp your concern(s) given the recent tragedies you've had to deal with.

War has been declared on the American people by our own government and most people STILL don't realize it.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

I guess it raises the question "Are these deaths what we would call 'excess deaths', meaning above and beyond what you would expect in a given time period?"

Silence from those in a position to investigate and mass censorship answers all my questions.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/lou...tter_impression=true

Louisiana's largest health care system charging $200 a month if your spouse is not vaccinated.

Where does it end? (Rhetorical) I'm waiting for the mandate word to be spoken at work. I work in an automotive stamping plant with around 500 employees. So far, just a letter posted by the time clock, saying they are waiting for their legal team's response.

Louisiana is one of the places in this country where you really don't want to fuck with people's family. The resentment of all this insanity and overreach will, I believe, reach a point where otherwise law-abiding people will feel compelled to commit acts which will be classified by the government and by the press as "domestic terrorism". And that goes for this country at large, not just Louisiana, but, down there, the sense of family and honor are so strong, these things cannot be properly gauged by outsiders.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:Agreed, but just also factor in that there is 'zero' long term data to support the comment that this vaccine is 'safe'. No one knows what the vaccines 'might' do to your internal systems over a number of years. I fully grasp your concern(s) given the recent tragedies you've had to deal with.

That is absolutely true, but there is also zero long term data evaluating the long term effects of natural infection. It could range from nothing, to permanent lung damage, to latent virus (chicken pox>shingles) that plagues the individual for the rest of their life. Lots of unknowns.