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Highly unlikely given that screwup by Biden is so egregious and colossal that it will likely be the gift that keeps on giving for years into the future. There is no way, even with the help of most of the MSM that Biden is going to be able to escape A-stan, no matter where he and his cast of clowns try and stear the narrative. Not gonna happen. Which won't matter given he's screwing up in so many places and so monumentally that nothing is going to be able to save him from drowning. From A-stan, to Covid, to inflation, to CRT, to race relations, to illegal immigration gone wild, to an endless number of future F-ups yet to be unveiled, Biden is done. The only questions left are 'when' he'll collapse (or croak) and 'if' the country can survive this retard. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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That sounds good on paper until YOUR union (such as the union at my major airline) folds like a cheap Walmart POS Chinese lawn chair and does NOTHING but fold its arms and look in from the sidelines. They are just as complicit as management in their nefarious plot and should be held accountable to the FULLEST extent of the law. Yeah...we're discussing it among our pilot group. "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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I'm certain if Gloom or Doom try forcing you the jab, you'll be getting up from that chair. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell | |||
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A bit of conflict between logic used within Joe and Kamala’s speeches today. One argued for bodily autonomy and the other for government mandated bodily injections. Harris on Same Day Biden Announces Vax Mandates: ‘When People Are Able to Make Choices without Government Interference… We Are a Stronger Society’ Link “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Typical leftists arguing against one another, sometimes even arguing against themselves, and not even realizing it. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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| I kneel for my God, and I stand for my flag |
I have 24 days to make a decision of whether I'm getting the jab or walking away from my job. You think that's an easy decision at 53 years old? Fuck you! | |||
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There's no need for that. | |||
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That is a tough spot to be in and I don’t envy you. Good luck on the courts shutting this down before it comes to that. | |||
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. I’m going through this decision at 60 now. Tough decision, do you stand by your beliefs or support your family. “Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.” ― Ronald Reagan Retired old fart | |||
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| Internet Guru |
Chin up...don't let your enslavement harsh folks mellow. Blue skies and rainbows just around the corner. | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
The all out assault is on from organized medicine to us physicians who don't bow down.   https://www.abim.org/media-cen...nt-statement-heading https://www.fsmb.org/advocacy/...cal-license-at-risk/ Q | |||
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“…providing misinformation about the Covid-19 vaccine contradicts physicians’ ethical and professional responsibilities, and therefore may subject a physician to disciplinary actions…” LOL. But a doctor saying the unvaccinated should be denied medical care is perfectly ethical. When the Ministry of Truth deems facts they don’t like “misinformation” people will be fired and their lives destroyed. All without any recourse. If there was a “doomsday clock” for tyranny, we would be 1 minute from communism. | |||
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Not much of a choice for my wife and I,and wasn’t much of a choice in the 50’s with the Polio pandemic.Back then if you got sick with it you could end up in an Iron Lung,(there are a few today still in one).yes the the choice is up to you,and it depends the kind of future you want for you and your family. | |||
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You have your beliefs and I have mine, there’s are many ethical and moral reasons in my mind not to take these shots. Now having to decide between a livelihood and your beliefs is not a simple choice for me. Do I want a future of government control or do I want to make a stand for what I believe in? “Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.” ― Ronald Reagan Retired old fart | |||
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I have medical professionals in the family who all advised us to get the vaccines. I understand there are some folks who should not get it for medical reasons. My youngest daughter is a physician in a large hospital trauma center and she tells us that 99% of those admitted with COVID are unvaccinated, and virtually all of them who die are unvaccinated. I have friends who have been hospitalized with it, and one who died. I am convinced the vaccinations are saving lives and are a good idea. But it still should be a personal choice and the government has no business mandating the vaccines for other than the military. It is so frustrating how the whole program has been politicized. You will recall it was Biden and Harris during the campaign who politicized it when they said they would never get the vaccine if Trump recommended it. We need 75-80% of the population to have immunity to attain herd immunity, and we are within striking distance of that number, when Biden starts this mandatory vaccine and school masks power play. With all the push back, it will be a setback and further division when we should be united to combat this thing. These decisions should be left to the states. The president should be focusing instead on how the damn thing got started and how it got here from China. You know, the National Security thing. Like Obama once said, never underestimate Joe's ability to f&%k things up. Everything his administration touches turns to shit and this will just be another of a long list of debacles to come. CMSGT USAF (Retired) Chief of Police (Retired) | |||
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How is that working for Israel ? I'm alright it's the rest of the world that's all screwed up! | |||
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Personally, I think its even easier than that. Do you want to put something in your body that there is 'zero' data on as far as longer term complications? These vaccines flew through FDA approval in a fraction of the time a normal vaccine review and approval would have taken, and were impacted hugely by politics. I'm personally not willing to roll the dice with my health like that. Damn shame those doctors and the other 'experts' aren't making much of an effort to guide those who are infected toward the benefits of monoclonal antibodies. Taken soon after infection, that treatment has demonstrated very good results at mitigating symptoms and helping people fully recover while keeping them out of hospitals. And best of all, they don't subject the patient to partially tested vaccines that there is no long term data on. Florida has setup 12 locations around the state where people who've been infected can get this treatment, yet the biggest issue to date has been the media's unwillingness to get this information out to the public and the medical community's unwillingness to deviate from the approved "vaccines as the only solution" narrative. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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| Cruising the Highway to Hell |
Big deal, I agree 100%, not to mention the methods used to manufacture and so called test them. These are my moral and ethical issues. Government overreach is another. The problem is how do You live with yourself if You give in on strong held beliefs and how do You live with yourself after giving up your ability to provide for your family. This is the situation millions are now facing. “Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.” ― Ronald Reagan Retired old fart | |||
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I would beg to differ with you on the herd immunity. Israel with one of the highest vaccinations rates in the world is experiencing record high covid cases.. The head of Astra Zeneca recently addressed the British parliament and said that herd immunity can never be accomplished with vaccines because the vaccinated can become infected and spread the virus. https://www.openaccessgovernme...lta-mythical/117386/ Sir Andrew Pollard, head of the Oxford Vaccine Group, said on Tuesday (10 August) that herd immunity is “mythical” in relation to the Delta variant – as it still infects vaccinated individuals Sir Pollard, a leading epidemiologist, said that the Delta variant made the possibility of herd immunity “mythical” – as the variant can still infect those who are fully vaccinated, and the majority of the world remains unvaccinated. ‘Herd immunity is not a possibility’ “I think we are in a situation here with this current variant where herd immunity is not a possibility because it still infects vaccinated individuals,” said Pollard, one of the team who created the AstraZeneca vaccine. “And that does mean that anyone who’s still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus. That might not be this month or next month, it might be next year, but at some point they will meet the virus and we don’t have anything that will stop that transmission. More at link: He is still saying the vaccine is important. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Easier said than done, but if millions just said no, governments would be forced to take a step back on these mandates. | |||
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