Wonder if a suit will be filed soon...

How many employers of private companies don't want the Vaccine, and are now expected to force their employees against their will.

I'm betting there are tons of large companies that in favor of the mandate, now they can make employees get vaccinated and say "not me - its the law"

I'm curious how the major unions will react. So far they have been very cold on any mandates. If they receive any carve outs that will be proof that the mandates are not medical in nature but political.

Would love to see every union go on strike and shut the country down.

A censored biologist views the COVID vaccine debacle as part of a 'noble lie'
By Peter Skurkiss

Bret Weinstein is an evolutionary biologist. He's not against vaccines per se but is a skeptic of the ones for COVID. He's also a proponent of using ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine regimens for preventing and treating COVID. For that, YouTube demonetized his broadcasts.

From that vantage point, Weinstein has an interesting take on how game theory applies to public health in the time of a pandemic such as we're in now. It goes something like this.

During a viral pandemic, the public health authorities may conclude that the best policy is to vaccinate as large a percentage of the population as possible, providing, of course, a vaccine is available. Once a threshold of the vaccinated is reached, the thinking is that herd immunity will kick in and eventually drive the virus to extinction. Here's where game theory comes in.

The health authorities view vaccination as being for the overall good. However, many individuals will refuse to take it as all vaccines have risks associated with them to one degree or another. In Weinstein's hypothetical example, the non-vaxxers are relying on others to assume the risk of vaccination while they 'free-ride' on herd immunity. But if enough people free-ride, the desired threshold of the vaccinated is never reached. To counter this, the health authorities feel they must do what they can to get as many people vaccinated as possible. This includes using blatant falsehoods and scare tactics. The authorities feel justified in lying, putting out misinformation, and censoring opposing views. It's all for the common good, they tell both themselves and their political master.

Deception like this can fall in the category of the"noble lie." A good working definition of a noble lie is that it is an untruth deliberately propagated by the elite to maintain social order or to advance an agenda. With the current Wuhan virus pandemic, the noble lie is looked at by the powers-that-be as a prerogative of the government and public health officials to be employed in emergency situations. Even if you accept that for the sake of argument, Weinstein notes a further problem. The entire premise of a noble lie falls apart when outside interests have captured the institutions of public health and use this prerogative to deceive to advance their own selfish agendas unbeknownst to the public.
'You're Only as Good as Your Last COVID Test'

To my eye, this is the situation we're in. Big Pharma and other outside money sources like the Gates Foundation have unduly influenced (corrupted) organizations like the CDC, the FDA, and the WHO. This has been going on for decades. Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) since 1984, is perhaps the most prominent of the noble liars to the point of being near pathological. But are Fauci's lies actually noble and intended for the public good as he tells himself? Or are they a cover for his role in clandestinely funding gain-of function at the Wuhan Institute of Virology? If so, Dr. Fauci's fingerprints are all over the pandemic he's supposed to be impartially and professionally addressing.

The fundamental problem with the noble lies now being told is that the truth will out. When it does, public trust and confidence in the public health organizations will drop. This lack of trust is a contagion that could easily spread to the rest of the medical establishment as it too was all in on the deceptions. This is the last thing the country needs.

Faith in government and our institutions is already hovering near record lows. The damage of these noble lies is especially severe when the lies did not advance public health but instead caused incalculable damage in terms of lives and livelihoods. Here I'm thinking of the needless lockdowns, the insane mandates for masks, the overt exaggeration of the lethality of COVID, the demonization of effective COVID treatments, and inflating the infection and death rates from COVID for the purpose of scaring people into taking risky vaccines.

Taken together, all these noble lies add up to a drastic loss of freedom in America. The ultimate ramifications of the COVID noble lies will have long-term adverse effects on the country that will dwarf even those from the Afghanistan fiasco.

https://www.americanthinker.co..._of_a_noble_lie.html

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Would love to see every union go on strike and shut the country down.

Plus every person that doesn't want to be vaccinated, just walk out.. Shut it down...

So it looks like Numbnuts is going to give all federal workers and contrators 75 days to get the vaccine or be fired.

I don't think this feeble puppet or his puppeteers have A CLUE what kind of shitstorm they are about to kick off here. They'll end up causing the gov to grind to a halt which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

And wasn't the USPS promised an exemption already? How does THAT work? No wonder Biden's handlers had him out there kissing union ass yesterday!

Why would the USPS get an exemption?

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I simply don't have the ability to understand these people.

Why? These folks aren't rocket scientists, are busy with work and making a living, and have been absolutely bombarded day in and day out 24/7 with a steady stream of lies and propaganda coming from all angles. Then if they do attempt to find the truth, the tech giants and MSM sensor or actively refute 'all' opposing or conflicting opinions and data. Fear has been sowed so deep and completely, its not hard to grasp why these parents are behaving as they are. Had the media and government been honest and given them the facts, I believe people in general would be functioning very differently than they are.

It's these exact people that have this country in the sorry state it is in right now. Naive, ignorant, plain stupid. I don't care - I am not sacrificing my freedoms or liberties due to your irrational fears.

Biden has grossly overstepped his authority. This executive order should be squashed in court almost immediately. I sure hope the lawsuits come fast and plentiful.

Funny how this is all happening just a week or so after the catastrophe in Afghanistan.

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:
Why would the USPS get an exemption?

You haven’t been following the news apparently.

This came up like a month ago and the USPS union went ballistic and the government quickly backed off and said they would receive an exemption.

That was also about that bullshit pro-union legislation thats appears to me to be largely unconstitutional....but since when would be an impediment to the american socialist party

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Originally posted by PASig:
So it looks like Numbnuts is going to give all federal workers and contrators 75 days to get the vaccine or be fired.

I don't think this feeble puppet or his puppeteers have A CLUE what kind of shitstorm they are about to kick off here. They'll end up causing the gov to grind to a halt which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

And wasn't the USPS promised an exemption already? How does THAT work? No wonder Biden's handlers had him out there kissing union ass yesterday!

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:
Why would the USPS get an exemption?

Because they have been trying to figure out how to deliver mail, they don’t need anything else to confuse them.

White House Releases Mandatory Vaccine Rules for U.S. Workforce and Reinstalls Fence Around Capitol to Avoid Backlash

The timing of the Capitol Hill fence being reinstalled by the police; and the deployment of the national guard to surround the capitol; at the same time that Joe Biden announces mandatory vaccine requirements for almost all workers in the United States, are not coincidental.

Can't mandate a vaccine to the union if I wanted to. It must be negotiated and in order for it to be effective it needs some teeth, discipline. Union will never agree to additional discipline.

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Would love to see every union go on strike and shut the country down.

Plus every person that doesn't want to be vaccinated, just walk out.. Shut it down...

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Originally posted by mbinky:
And away we go! Being reported all over twitter right now:

"JUST IN - Biden to mandate all employers (100 workers or more) require #COVID19 vaccinations or weekly virus tests, affecting as many as 100 million Americans.

Businesses that don't abide by the new virus policy will face "substantial fines up to nearly $14,000 per violation," according to a senior Biden admin official.

In addition, Biden will require health care workers at Medicare & Medicaid participating hospitals and other health care settings to be vaccinated, impacting more than 17 million workers (PBS)"

And for the older retired or disabled segment of the population now on Medicare, what about them? Raise their Medicare monthly premiums or otherwise penalize those unvaccinated somehow into compliance? Waiting for that shoe to drop, but I believe it could happen.

I know people have seen quote below before.

If the people who think that tearing this country apart will be done without the worst of all consequences, they and others, are in for the most rude of awakenings.

All the metaphors, "John Wick", "The Patriot", "Rob Roy", "Braveheart", "Falling Down" and such, are not simply fantasy. There comes a place when some can be pushed no further, and as "William Munny" said in "Unforgiven": "It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have."

Worse, is "killing a man's future and letting him live".

This country was fought for and won, by "Men who wanted to be left Alone" as well as other events in history.

And that is how I see the following, framed.



"The most terrifying force of death, comes from the hands of "Men who wanted to be left Alone".

They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love.

They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it.

They know, that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over.

The moment the "Men who wanted to be left Alone" are forced to fight back, it is a small form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. . . .

Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these "Men who wanted to be left Alone", fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at the Left’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy . . . . but it will fall upon deaf ears."

Howard Stern: "Fuck their freedom"

Oh, and the Electoral College system is "rigged"

You can see where we're going, guys.



Radio host Howard Stern blasted opponents of the COVID-19 vaccine on Tuesday, stating that "nutjobs" are trampling on his "freedom to live."

"When are we going to stop putting up with the idiots in this country and just say it's mandatory to get vaccinated?" Stern said to listeners on his eponymous SiriusXM program.

"As I remember, when I went to school, you had to get a measles vaccine. You had to get a mumps vaccine," Stern said.

Vaccine hesitancy remains an issue in the U.S. as the country continues to battle the coronavirus pandemic. Efforts to stamp out coronavirus have been complicated by the spread of the highly contagious delta variant first found in India. It is now the dominant strain in the U.S.

Opponents of the vaccine argue that it is a matter of personal freedom what substances they are allowed to put in their body. However, public health professionals and proponents of the inoculation argue that vaccines protect both the recipient and the general population from spreading disease.

"Fuck them. Fuck their freedom. I want my freedom to live," Stern, 67, said. "I want to get out of the house. I want to go next door and play chess. I want to go take some pictures. This is bullshit."

"The other thing I hate is that all these people with COVID who won't get vaccinated are in the hospitals clogging it up," the radio host, dubbing vaccine opponents "imbeciles," exclaimed. "So like, if you have a heart attack or any kind of problem, you can't even get into the E.R. And I'm really of mind to say, 'Look, if you didn't get vaccinated [and] you got COVID, you don't get into a hospital.'"

"Go fuck yourself," Stern continued. "You had the cure and you wouldn't take it."

Stern also railed against Texas's controversial law that bans abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected.

"We have a system, as [former] President Trump said, the system is rigged. And he's right. It is rigged — except it's rigged for assholes," Stern said.

"Trump got to be president, and he lost by 3 million votes," Stern said. Then-candidate Trump won the Electoral College vote in 2016 but lost the popular vote to Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

Stern, who maintained a friendship with Trump and frequently hosted him on his show before he entered politics, supported Clinton in 2016 and President Biden in the 2020 White House race.

"We have a system where the minority is starting to rule the country," Stern said. "We have places — like shitholes that have like 300,000 people — and they get two senators. The whole thing is wrong. The majority of the people in this country want abortion rights."

A recent NBC poll found that 54 percent of respondents believe that abortion should be legal in all or most cases.

"I don't know how much longer people are going to put up with it. I don't know what the solution is," Stern said. "But we have the minority running the country, not the majority. It's not good. It's really getting ugly out there."

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Just because you're on the radio, Howard, doesn't mean you know everything.

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Originally posted by HRK:
Wonder if a suit will be filed soon...

How many employers of private companies don't want the Vaccine, and are now expected to force their employees against their will.

I'm betting there are tons of large companies that in favor of the mandate, now they can make employees get vaccinated and say "not me - its the law"

I don't recall hearing about ANY Law being passed...Oh, that's right, there isn't one!

The left is creating a very large group of people who have nothing left to lose. Take away their job, their family, their means to live, and this group of people will reach a point where they decide there is nothing left holding them to the "pact" they agreed to when they chose to be good citizens and participate in society and government.

And that is when things get dangerous.

Howard Stern has become the very people he railed against for 30 plus friggen years

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
I know people have seen quote below before.

If the people who think that tearing this country apart will be done without the worst of all consequences, they and others, are in for the most rude of awakenings.

What I find amusing is the taunting I see from people who post in the comments section of some of these news stories, saying "Yeah, it's nothing but big talk. You people aren't ever going do anything, so, just take the vaccine and shut up. Go ahead, start something."

Ohhhh, that is so very short-sighted. Yes, it will take more than what's happening in this country right now, for enough people to say "Nope, I have had it, genuinely had it. No more." Yes, I believe this is true. We're not yet to that point. However, to say that people who are hesitant to potentially sacrifice their lives (because they have much to lose and they have spouses and have children who depend upon them) will never reach the tipping point, well, I think many people in this country may be in for a shocking, shocking surprise.

A people don't rise up until they rise up. It doesn't happen until happens. Make no mistake, it can happen in this country, and though it would be in the blink of an eye, it may very well seem that way to those who aren't paying attention.