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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie
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Lets not forget the influence of Social Media, FB doesn't let a post go by that mentions COVID, shots, etc without inserting their agenda on COVID-19, fact checking everyone that brings up anything that doesn't fit their narrative.





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For some people it’s selfish motivation that makes them comply and to despise people who do not. For instance the sports industry. Anyone who makes a living in that industry from professional players to coaches, staff, media people, sports beat writers and so on right down to the mom and dads who’s kids play prep sports do not want their sport shutdown costing them their livelihoods or to live vicariously through their kid who play sports. I’ve heard some local sports talking heads say some pretty harsh things about people especially players who won’t get the jab. They are reliant on those people to keep their livelihoods going.

And if it does get shut down it will always be the fault of the non compliant that’s were the blame will fall and where the anger will be directed. Just last week two sets of parents got in a huge shouting match about vaccinating kids. One pro one con. They happen to be acquaintances of ours and we know them to be long time friends who from what we hear are now bitter enemies. The pro people claimed they just want their kid to be able to play organized hockey and if it gets shutdown it’s because of the other set of parents who don’t want their kid vaccinated.

I think this level of division among the populace is far more than what the elite even hoped for.


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Who wins if we are so distracted arguing about those willing or not to get a vaccine that is proving more and more to be in effective against mutations that we forget to ask where it came from and if its spread was intentional?

Why is the media so reluctant to point the finger at the most probable origin of all this bullshit? Why are they so scared to ask the hard questions out loud? Why does it seem like they would rather have us fight with each other rather than ask hard questions and demand truthful answers?

All those questions point in one direction. Refusing to look down a dark path and trying to ignore the obvious just further erodes trust in organizations and institutions to the point that it threatens their existence.


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This country is on a serious collision course with the vaccine mandate stuff and I’m amazed at how many at best can’t see it and at worst are cheering it on.

This does not end with that dirty unvaccinated minority bending the knee and saying you were right. Just so you know.

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If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.

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Call me paranoid, but I'm one of those people who get a yearly flu shot. This year I'm afraid it could be something else that's injected into my shoulder. Am I being silly? More and more, I don't trust anyone.


Here you go. Working on a combo shot!!

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...lu-shot_3989905.html



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And away we go! Being reported all over twitter right now:

"JUST IN - Biden to mandate all employers (100 workers or more) require #COVID19 vaccinations or weekly virus tests, affecting as many as 100 million Americans.

Businesses that don't abide by the new virus policy will face "substantial fines up to nearly $14,000 per violation," according to a senior Biden admin official.

In addition, Biden will require health care workers at Medicare & Medicaid participating hospitals and other health care settings to be vaccinated, impacting more than 17 million workers (PBS)"

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/09...ews&utm_campaign=npr
 
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Tyrannical shithead.

Biden to announce vaccine mandate for companies with more than 100 employees

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...e-than-100-employees


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This does not end with that dirty unvaccinated minority bending the knee and saying you were right. Just so you know.
 
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Wonder if a suit will be filed soon...

How many employers of private companies don't want the Vaccine, and are now expected to force their employees against their will.

I'm betting there are tons of large companies that in favor of the mandate, now they can make employees get vaccinated and say "not me - its the law"
 
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I'm curious how the major unions will react. So far they have been very cold on any mandates. If they receive any carve outs that will be proof that the mandates are not medical in nature but political.

Would love to see every union go on strike and shut the country down.
 
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A censored biologist views the COVID vaccine debacle as part of a 'noble lie'
By Peter Skurkiss

Bret Weinstein is an evolutionary biologist. He's not against vaccines per se but is a skeptic of the ones for COVID. He's also a proponent of using ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine regimens for preventing and treating COVID. For that, YouTube demonetized his broadcasts.

From that vantage point, Weinstein has an interesting take on how game theory applies to public health in the time of a pandemic such as we're in now. It goes something like this.

During a viral pandemic, the public health authorities may conclude that the best policy is to vaccinate as large a percentage of the population as possible, providing, of course, a vaccine is available. Once a threshold of the vaccinated is reached, the thinking is that herd immunity will kick in and eventually drive the virus to extinction. Here's where game theory comes in.

The health authorities view vaccination as being for the overall good. However, many individuals will refuse to take it as all vaccines have risks associated with them to one degree or another. In Weinstein's hypothetical example, the non-vaxxers are relying on others to assume the risk of vaccination while they 'free-ride' on herd immunity. But if enough people free-ride, the desired threshold of the vaccinated is never reached. To counter this, the health authorities feel they must do what they can to get as many people vaccinated as possible. This includes using blatant falsehoods and scare tactics. The authorities feel justified in lying, putting out misinformation, and censoring opposing views. It's all for the common good, they tell both themselves and their political master.

Deception like this can fall in the category of the"noble lie." A good working definition of a noble lie is that it is an untruth deliberately propagated by the elite to maintain social order or to advance an agenda. With the current Wuhan virus pandemic, the noble lie is looked at by the powers-that-be as a prerogative of the government and public health officials to be employed in emergency situations. Even if you accept that for the sake of argument, Weinstein notes a further problem. The entire premise of a noble lie falls apart when outside interests have captured the institutions of public health and use this prerogative to deceive to advance their own selfish agendas unbeknownst to the public.
'You're Only as Good as Your Last COVID Test'

To my eye, this is the situation we're in. Big Pharma and other outside money sources like the Gates Foundation have unduly influenced (corrupted) organizations like the CDC, the FDA, and the WHO. This has been going on for decades. Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) since 1984, is perhaps the most prominent of the noble liars to the point of being near pathological. But are Fauci's lies actually noble and intended for the public good as he tells himself? Or are they a cover for his role in clandestinely funding gain-of function at the Wuhan Institute of Virology? If so, Dr. Fauci's fingerprints are all over the pandemic he's supposed to be impartially and professionally addressing.

The fundamental problem with the noble lies now being told is that the truth will out. When it does, public trust and confidence in the public health organizations will drop. This lack of trust is a contagion that could easily spread to the rest of the medical establishment as it too was all in on the deceptions. This is the last thing the country needs.

Faith in government and our institutions is already hovering near record lows. The damage of these noble lies is especially severe when the lies did not advance public health but instead caused incalculable damage in terms of lives and livelihoods. Here I'm thinking of the needless lockdowns, the insane mandates for masks, the overt exaggeration of the lethality of COVID, the demonization of effective COVID treatments, and inflating the infection and death rates from COVID for the purpose of scaring people into taking risky vaccines.

Taken together, all these noble lies add up to a drastic loss of freedom in America. The ultimate ramifications of the COVID noble lies will have long-term adverse effects on the country that will dwarf even those from the Afghanistan fiasco.

https://www.americanthinker.co..._of_a_noble_lie.html



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Would love to see every union go on strike and shut the country down.


Plus every person that doesn't want to be vaccinated, just walk out.. Shut it down...
 
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So it looks like Numbnuts is going to give all federal workers and contrators 75 days to get the vaccine or be fired.

I don't think this feeble puppet or his puppeteers have A CLUE what kind of shitstorm they are about to kick off here. They'll end up causing the gov to grind to a halt which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

And wasn't the USPS promised an exemption already? How does THAT work? Roll Eyes No wonder Biden's handlers had him out there kissing union ass yesterday!


 
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Why would the USPS get an exemption?
 
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I simply don't have the ability to understand these people.
Why? These folks aren't rocket scientists, are busy with work and making a living, and have been absolutely bombarded day in and day out 24/7 with a steady stream of lies and propaganda coming from all angles. Then if they do attempt to find the truth, the tech giants and MSM sensor or actively refute 'all' opposing or conflicting opinions and data. Fear has been sowed so deep and completely, its not hard to grasp why these parents are behaving as they are. Had the media and government been honest and given them the facts, I believe people in general would be functioning very differently than they are.


It's these exact people that have this country in the sorry state it is in right now. Naive, ignorant, plain stupid. I don't care - I am not sacrificing my freedoms or liberties due to your irrational fears.
 
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Biden has grossly overstepped his authority. This executive order should be squashed in court almost immediately. I sure hope the lawsuits come fast and plentiful.

Funny how this is all happening just a week or so after the catastrophe in Afghanistan.


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Why would the USPS get an exemption?


You haven’t been following the news apparently.

This came up like a month ago and the USPS union went ballistic and the government quickly backed off and said they would receive an exemption.


 
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That was also about that bullshit pro-union legislation thats appears to me to be largely unconstitutional....but since when would be an impediment to the american socialist party

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So it looks like Numbnuts is going to give all federal workers and contrators 75 days to get the vaccine or be fired.

I don't think this feeble puppet or his puppeteers have A CLUE what kind of shitstorm they are about to kick off here. They'll end up causing the gov to grind to a halt which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

And wasn't the USPS promised an exemption already? How does THAT work? Roll Eyes No wonder Biden's handlers had him out there kissing union ass yesterday!


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Why would the USPS get an exemption?

Because they have been trying to figure out how to deliver mail, they don’t need anything else to confuse them.
 
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White House Releases Mandatory Vaccine Rules for U.S. Workforce and Reinstalls Fence Around Capitol to Avoid Backlash

The timing of the Capitol Hill fence being reinstalled by the police; and the deployment of the national guard to surround the capitol; at the same time that Joe Biden announces mandatory vaccine requirements for almost all workers in the United States, are not coincidental.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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