^^^ The only power we have is to say, "I will not comply."
Repeated by enough people, that makes a big difference.

^^^I'm already on board with this...

I WILL NOT COMPLY!

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Originally posted by chellim1:

"... some will be related to how we ensure kids will be protected in schools."

In my state, they already have a bill that says the public school system (at the state level) can dictate how things are handled at private schools.
If a private school does not follow their direction (mandate on masks, vaccines forthcoming, etc.), the school will no longer be recognized by the sate.

I think what that ultimately means is that these sickos are having a wet dream of going after kids who are in private schools:
1. The private school is no longer a recognized school
2. Your kid who goes to a private school is not attending school
3. You as a parent are not sending your kid to school
4. You also are not vaccinated, and you've kept your kid from vaccinating
5. The state has interest in the well being of your kid and thus will come take your kid unless you vaccinate the kid and send him/her to a recognized school

They will probably come after home schooling - and require submission of proof of vaccination for it to meet schooling requirements.
Using truancy laws to try to dictate and run your life. Imagine that.

I think I’m fucked. Word on the street is Biden will sign an executive order forcing all federal workers to get vaccinated or be fired and that extends to government defense contractors like where I work.

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Originally posted by PASig:
I think I’m fucked. Word on the street is Biden will sign an executive order forcing all federal workers to get vaccinated or be fired and that extends to government defense contractors like where I work.

Demand the "approved" vaccine and make sure the vial says Comirnaty on it. Otherwise he can shove that executive order up his ass.

ETA:

Well, you called it. That's messed up.

Biden to require all federal workers be vaccinated with no testing option: report

https://nypost.com/2021/09/09/...campaign=android_nyp

Obviously they can't have a testing requirement because to do so would be incoherent. What's the point when those vaccinated can carry and spread the virus just as easily as those unvaccinated?

The voters in this country are more than capable of making us all slaves. Fear truly is the slow death. Unless enough individual Americans decide this is ridiculous, this possibly becomes the new normal. We're already living in a dystopian nightmare where clueless bureaucrats peddle fear and wield control through the chanting of the words 'experts' and 'science'.

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Biden will sign an executive order forcing all federal workers to get vaccinated or be fired and that extends to government defense contractors

If the Biden's regime forces Federal employees to get the vaxxx.....expect MASSIVE spike in the Delta-Death rates (No doubt the CDC will do their best to fudge the numbers).

From Public Health England

Technical Briefing 22 (1 February 2021 to 29 August 2021)

Deaths within 28 days of positive specimen date:

Vaccinated - 1091

Unvaccinated - 531

As of Sept 08 the "Fully" Vaxx rate in the UK is: 65.5%

The vaxxed proportion of DEATHS is: 69%

So, if close to 70% of folks dying from Delta-Covid are the VACCINATED (a higher percentage than the Vaxx rate) ... what is the point of the Vax?

Statistically speaking if 72.5% of the population has had one dose and 65.5% are fully vaccinated in the U.K. as of Sept 7 one should not be surprised that there are more deaths among the vaccinated IF the strain has indeed mutated and the vaccine’s effectiveness is now gone. The problem is trying to figure out who is being honest and who is trying to scare people for political gain. Forcing a vaccine upon people when there are examples showing it is not working is a huge problem. Israel had and even higher percentage vaccinated and are getting hit hard with new infections.

United Airlines now says sure you can have a religious exemption to the vaccine...Oh yeah, forgot to tell you - if you get a religious exemption you are being put on 'unpaid leave'. We call that getting fired where I come from.

United Airlines staff who are granted religious exemptions to vaccine mandate will be put on unpaid leave

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Originally posted by chellim1:
^^^ The only power we have is to say, "I will not comply."
Repeated by enough people, that makes a big difference.

Something often forgotten from American History 101, government only has the ability to govern through the consent of the governed. It's high time "We the people..." exercise our rights and revoke at least some of our consent.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by chellim1:
^^^ The only power we have is to say, "I will not comply."
Repeated by enough people, that makes a big difference.

Something often forgotten from American History 101, government only has the ability to govern through the consent of the governed. It's high time "We the people..." exercise our rights and revoke at least some of our consent.

A large percentage of the people not only consent, but are actually freaking ASKING FOR these crazy policies (especially with respect to vaccines).

Some people have said that the virus was released to reduce the population. Some have said that the vaccine was created to reduce the population. I say it's going to be the eventual blowback that reduces the population.

These people win when they require you to take their shot for your employment or to use their services and then you give in and take it. People need to walk out. Just walk away. It will work out in the end.

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Originally posted by owenbright:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by chellim1:
^^^ The only power we have is to say, "I will not comply."
Repeated by enough people, that makes a big difference.

Something often forgotten from American History 101, government only has the ability to govern through the consent of the governed. It's high time "We the people..." exercise our rights and revoke at least some of our consent.

A large percentage of the people not only consent, but are actually freaking ASKING FOR these crazy policies (especially with respect to vaccines).

True, but I believe when push comes to shove, that group does not represent a majority of this country.

Regarding the fear angle, a old neighbor of mine (I think he's 91 and an Army veteran) suggested that across history when empires were conquered the conquerors killed, impaled, disemboweled, or imprisoned the senators (i.e. politicians) of the conquered country. He further suggested that the majority of this country that still loves and believes in it should take back Washington and capitols around the country and subject all the related politicians to that fate for what they've done. I simply listened and nodded as he spoke. There was a time where I would have viewed that as extreme and completely unacceptable, but I'm beginning to move in his direction.

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Originally posted by owenbright:

A large percentage of the people not only consent, but are actually freaking ASKING FOR these crazy policies (especially with respect to vaccines).

Truth.

Parents in Utah were actually protesting the State government to MANDATE children wear masks in K-8 school. I simply don't have the ability to understand these people.

The lies surround this just keep on and on. If you want proof, google Dr. Esther Choo. She based out of Oregon and spouts off regularly about all kinds of horror stories about COVID. Including how many heath care workers are forced to re-use PPEs and that there are hospitals putting two patients in one ICU bed. Her main mouthpiece appears to be Yahoo.
These lies perpetuate this "crisis".

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I simply don't have the ability to understand these people.

Why? These folks aren't rocket scientists, are busy with work and making a living, and have been absolutely bombarded day in and day out 24/7 with a steady stream of lies and propaganda coming from all angles. Then if they do attempt to find the truth, the tech giants and MSM sensor or actively refute 'all' opposing or conflicting opinions and data. Fear has been sowed so deep and completely, its not hard to grasp why these parents are behaving as they are. Had the media and government been honest and given them the facts, I believe people in general would be functioning very differently than they are.

nope, I do not buy that excuse for a minute bigdeal. Not even a nano second. Please do not give these people any credit that way. It is a choice. A choice to be spoon feed. Or a choice to determine what it is you choose to do. Don't go there with they are just living their life bs.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
nope, I do not buy that excuse for a minute bigdeal. Not even a nano second. Please do not give these people any credit that way. It is a choice. A choice to be spoon feed. Or a choice to determine what it is you choose to do. Don't go there with they are just living their life bs.

You may reject what he's saying, but bigdeal is correct.

Around 20 million people in the US watch the network nightly news every day. Throw in all of the cable networks with the exception of Fox News, every newspaper, local news station being extremely liberal and people just absorb what is being said without really paying attention or questioning.

The stories we routinely talk about here in the forum are not discussed in the mainstream media, they aren't even on the majority of people's radar.

If you don't know the corruption exists and the stories that refute the liberal agenda, what do you expect? How do you think countries like North Korea, Germany in WWII, Russia, etc. control their populations? If the people never hear a contrary story they tend to believe what they are being told.

You can criticize people for not being more curious and for not digging deeper, but the reality is that most people live their lives in a bubble, working, taking care of children, running from event to event and believe what they are told.

Why do you think the social media giants are cracking down so hard on conservatives? They don't want stories and information contrary to the liberal agenda widely disseminated.

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Around 20 million people in the US watch the network nightly news every day. Throw in all of the cable networks with the exception of Fox News, every newspaper, local news station being extremely liberal and people just absorb what is being said without really paying attention or questioning.

Lets not forget the influence of Social Media, FB doesn't let a post go by that mentions COVID, shots, etc without inserting their agenda on COVID-19, fact checking everyone that brings up anything that doesn't fit their narrative.

People buy that lock stock and barrel that FB brings truth, they reinforce that anti-vaxxers are simply cavepeople idiots, untrustworthy. Hence the derogatory label of "anti vaxxer" this is clearly the plan for these folks who wish to run the narrative.

People live on these SM sources, they control the narrative, those that want to run the narrative hire others to post comments, ads, become influencers to push the narrative.

SM has done more to make this happen than any other source...

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
nope, I do not buy that excuse for a minute bigdeal. Not even a nano second. Please do not give these people any credit that way. It is a choice. A choice to be spoon feed. Or a choice to determine what it is you choose to do. Don't go there with they are just living their life bs.

I believe it…we call them “Breeder Zombies.”

As informed as 15 minutes of airport CNN.

Only watch reality TV like the Bachelor.

Only service their cars when the check engine light comes on.

Vacation twice a year with their parents, normally a Shoebe type caravan to some overcrowded beach.

Sit at a green light because they are checking facefuck posts.

Eat out way too much since Mom needs her spin class or yoga and Dad is buying skinny jeans at the mall.

Self absorbed in their bubble and vote based on how they feel. Either based on recycling and saving Mother Earth from global warming or ANYTHING fir the chirrens.

Etc etc