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Originally posted by Kept Bum:
Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.

Yup.

I mentioned earlier that the piehole diaper restrictions are easing and the signs are coming down. Now I'm seeing more and more "if you've been fully vaccinated you don't need a mask" signs. Come on now, who's going to even ask, let alone ask for proof?

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Originally posted by egregore:
I mentioned earlier that the piehole diaper restrictions are easing and the signs are coming down. Now I'm seeing more and more "if you've been fully vaccinated you don't need a mask" signs. Come on now, who's going to even ask, let alone ask for proof?

I will not wear a mask anywhere any longer except at work which has also rescinded masking for vaccinated. I’ve not taken the Fauci Death Shot and don’t ever plan to.

Per my work rules, I still must wear a mask at all times inside any of our buildings. We just had a retirement breakfast for someone leaving after 35 years, I’m sitting in the conference room with a mask on following the rules and no one else is, and I know for a fact they aren’t all vaxxed. After about five minutes I said “fuck this“ and took it off, it just felt silly.

As far as business is posting those signs, yes I am vaccinated, got them all when I was six years old!

I self-identify as being vaccinated

COVID-19 hotspots are emerging across the country, fueled by the highly transmissible delta variant and lagging vaccination rates, in California, Nevada, Missouri and Arkansas.

To combat summer spikes, the White House announced Thursday it will send out "surge response teams" to aid in nationwide vaccination efforts.



And they are now pushing children to take the jab...

St. Louis area

Three counties in the St. Louis region have issued public health advisories, citing the spread of new delta variant cases, urging the public to wear masks indoors, even if vaccinated. In their advisory, local health departments said to assume one in three people in any gathering may be unvaccinated.

Over the last two weeks, cases in Jefferson County increased 42%, with the highest number of cases in the 10- to 19-year-old age group.

"This is concerning since most of that age group is eligible for the vaccine, but only 10.82% have completed the full series of vaccination," the county said in an advisory.

So far, 39.1% of the state population has completed the vaccine series and 44.5% have initiated vaccination, per state data.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/summ...covid-193028055.html

Vaccine propaganda and injection indecision

How do you make decisions in our new internet world? Most of us just go to Google and type in the question: "Is it safe to get the COVID-19 vaccine?" The overwhelming response is "Yes!"

Every entry below has the same strangely similar results. "Side effects are minor and common." "Side effects are a sign that your vaccine is working properly."

When you visit YouTube and do the same search, again, you see a consistent theme. "The risk from the COVID outweigh the risks from the vaccines," and "vaccine side effects are actually a good thing."

Check for yourself.

But when you go to an uncensored video website like Bitchute.com or Rumble.com, you see a totally different result: scores of doctors and scientists warning about the danger from the shots, and hundreds of videos from real people who have had horrific side effects from their injections, and most were at extremely low risk for dying from COVID.

You are now presented with a dilemma: "whom do I trust with this potentially life-altering decision? Which is worse, the disease or the cure?"

Ask yourself, which is more likely in our new world where government officials, news media, and social media have all teamed up to present only one side of an issue?

When were the first incidences of information and videos being "fact-checked" and removed? When were the first cases of websites actually being "de-platformed"? When, in our history, have doctors and scientists been pressured, vilified, and even fired from their jobs for expressing their honest opinions about the most important disease facing our planet?

If you think back, this all started with two subjects: Hunter Biden's ties to China before the 2020 election and the press conference by America's Frontline Doctors talking about effective treatments for COVID.

What happened to the free exchange of ideas and information in the United States?

Whom do you believe: doctors, scientists and real people telling their stories, or Big Tech–controlled media pushing a narrative to "get the vaccine so you can hug your grandmother"?

Why are state governors giving million-dollar lottery tickets in order to get people to take the shot? If the public believed that the vaccines are safe and effective, then people should be lining up of their own free will.

If you post a comment or video on Facebook about negative vaccine side-effects, your post is "fact-checked" and then deleted, and your account may be closed.

On the other hand, if you knew there were truly safe and effective treatments for COVID, and even safe and effective preventative measures you and your family members could take, the whole issue goes away. You won't need the shot, and the "Emergency Use Authorization" for the vaccine injections would be no longer valid.

But if you go to your same sources and type "hydroxychloroquine" or "ivermectin," you get a response dated Nov. 9, 2020: "A National Institutes of Health clinical trial evaluating the safety and effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of adults with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) has formally concluded that the drug provides no clinical benefit to hospitalized patients" and "WHO 'strongly' against hydroxychloroquine use for COVID-19." For ivermectin, you get articles on "Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19."

Check for yourself.

If you go to Bitchute with the same question, you are presented with the banned videos from America's Frontline Doctors explaining their experience with using HCQ and ivermectin to prevent and cure COVID. Rumble shows videos about studies from doctors and scientists about how effective they are.



It seems that despite the concerted efforts of Big Tech, people are smart enough to figure out what's going on. This chart shows a dramatic rise in vaccinations followed by an equally dramatic decrease.



Why have the vaccinations dropped off so sharply? Could it be that the word is getting out that the vaccines are not as safe as advertised, or that COVID is not much to worry about if you're under 70?

Are you thinking of getting a COVID shot?

Is your teenager being forced to take a shot in order to return to college?

Do you have friends who are on the fence?

A website has been set up that shows videos from real people explaining their stories about side-effects from getting the vaccines. It also asks people to submit their own stories. Oddly enough, the website is "1000CovidStories.com."

Watch for yourself and make up your own mind. Determine for yourself if these stories are fakes or real. Then ask yourself and your friends, "Is it worth it to risk life-changing and even fatal side effects from a vaccine for a disease that is survived by 99.98% of people under 70?"

https://www.americanthinker.co...tion_indecision.html

How about ask your family doctor. Before the internet the average Joe was not reading medical literature and merely asked his physician. This seems to be prudent at the present time.

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How about ask your family doctor.

I don't know. There seem to be a lot of doctors that are just repeating what they've been told to say/do as well.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
How about ask your family doctor.

I dunno... mebbe because the last two family doctors we've had have been quick to recommend every last freakin' Western medicine pill or jab manufactured by the pharmaceutical industry?

Strangely, we've managed to survive, and remain in good health, without a damn one of them.

Huh...

Let me tell you about a friend of my wife. She was suffering from mild depression. (By "mild" I mean she was still nominally functional.) She'd recently lost her husband. This is normal. Did her family doctor recommend counseling or therapy? Nope. Drugs. Only problem was: That drug had deleterious side-effects. Did he recommend stopping the drug or an alternative? Nope. He prescribed another drug to counteract the side-effects of the first one. That, in turn, had its own side-effects. You know where this is going, right? By the time all was said and done she was on no less than ten prescription meds and her health continued to decline.

Mind you: Before all this started she'd been relatively healthy.

She was finally persuaded to change docs. First thing the new doc did was halve all her meds to begin the process of weaning her off all of them. After less than a week her health is already improving.

So, yeah: Why not ask your family doctor? What could possibly go wrong?

(Btw: Exact same thing happened to my mother, only she could never be persuaded to take another course of action. She ended-up with a whole pharmacy of meds she was taking every day.)

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
How about ask your family doctor. Before the internet the average Joe was not reading medical literature and merely asked his physician. This seems to be prudent at the present time.

Last year I asked my doctor. He suggested I take one of the mrna shots. I opted to not. Not only am I not in any group but I don’t react well to vaccines, I have always had to have a doctor note for schools etc…

My doctor was just parroting what he had been told…it’s not his fault. But I can think on my own and will take the risk with responsibility solely on me.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
How about ask your family doctor. Before the internet the average Joe was not reading medical literature and merely asked his physician. This seems to be prudent at the present time.

I am not so sure about this strategy, it seems like a lot of doctors have been bullied into going along and shutting up. I wouldn’t trust them either at this point.

The podcast I just listened to this past week from Darkhorse with the three medical professionals, they stated that a lot of doctors have been basically threatened and bullied into not speaking out or speaking their true minds about all of this, lest they be ostracized or even lose their jobs.

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I trust my physician and value his opinion. He reads the medical literature and we discuss appropriate treatment plans. If you do not trust that your physician has your best interest at heart you need to get a new physician. If he is beholden to a corporation or pharmaceutical company that is a problem. BTW Medicare has been publishing the fees doctors receive from Big Pharma.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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I trust my physician and value his opinion.

Well good for you.

How many of us anymore really have the traditional “family“ doctor?

I go to a medical group and get whatever doctor is on duty at that moment, it could be one of six or seven different doctors. I don’t really have a “family“ doctor anymore. Or if I don’t want to wait, I head down to the urgent care where I see one of 15 different doctors, I don’t know any of them just whoever is on staff.

I suspect there’s many more of us than the ones that have the traditional single “family“ doctor.

You are compromising your care. I see an internist who makes referrals if needed. In medicine it is called continuity of care.

Perhaps different experiences in different regions. I concur with the sentiments above. These days, health care is about profits and turnover and then trying to fit some medicine within those bounds. It’s no longer medicine and then figuring out how to be financially optimal.

And only getting with diversity and equality programs. Meritocracy is going away.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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I trust my physician and value his opinion. He reads the medical literature and we discuss appropriate treatment plans. If you do not trust that your physician has your best interest at heart ...

I trust that my physician believes he... well, she, now, has my best interests at heart. The problem is the only answers they seem to know these days are prescription drugs, expensive lab tests, jabs, and surgical procedures.

As regards the instant question: Tell me: If the Wu Flu and immunity to it is all that important, then why, when I told my last physician "What I'd like to get is an antibody test" was the response "I'd like that, too, but they won't let me write those?"

One of the many things about Western medicine, and the Wu Flu, in particular, what makes you go "Hmmm..."

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As regards the instant question: Tell me: If the Wu Flu and immunity to it is all that important, then why, when I told my last physician "What I'd like to get is an antibody test" was the response "I'd like that, too, but they won't let me write those

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I would have asked why and said I would pay for it. He is working for you. As to your friend she should have been referred to a clinical psychologist for evaluation. An assessment by a psychologist is the first step in treating depression. Antidepressants are often a waste. Most family physicians know little of mental health issues.

I have a primary care Doc. Seems like a good guy and trustworthy. But... What he does quite a bit is hand me off to other doctors or care providers for anything other than the routine stuff. I had some cardiac issues that needed to checked out and my Doctor kicked me over to care providers who do that kind of care. All of them pushed hard for me to get the shot and it was pretty clear that effort was $$$ driven. After testing, no one followed up with me to see if any of the issues I was having happened again. Why? No $$$ in it. The bottom line for health care and the "pandemic" is the fact that it was an opportunity to generate cash.

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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I trust my physician and value his opinion.

Well good for you.
How many of us anymore really have the traditional “family“ doctor?
I go to a medical group and get whatever doctor is on duty at that moment, it could be one of six or seven different doctors. I don’t really have a “family“ doctor anymore. Or if I don’t want to wait, I head down to the urgent care where I see one of 15 different doctors, I don’t know any of them just whoever is on staff.
I suspect there’s many more of us than the ones that have the traditional single “family“ doctor.

My family doc retired early in 2012 because of obamacare. Now it’s like you. Who knows who I’ll get. And that’s scary considering 275,000 Americans die every year because of medical malpractice.