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Political Cynic |
Fuck that asshole. The 4th of July is about us and not about him. Bidet can go fuck a cactus. I don’t take orders from child molesters. | |||
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This is from one of the other forums I visit. And I can tell you there is a great deal of this think that is out there. Good news is when things go bad they will be in the basement and not be in anyone's way.
"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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Right on! My city (Bettendorf) is resuming the big parade followed by a day long streetfest. The unspoken message is "Up yours, Joe!" Even better, our gov told Creepy Joe "We're not taking any kids from the border, they're YOUR problem." https://www.desmoinesregister....-problem/7144792002/ | |||
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Info Guru |
It's jarring to read things like that. I've run across a few myself - there are people who have literally locked themselves down for over a year. Just stunning to even think about. After the first two weeks last year we have been pretty normal other than me being able to work from home. I've probably made a hundred visits each to Lowe's and Home Depot. We showed and sold our house, moved into a rental and storage for 4 months and then moved again into our current home. Other than throwing a mask on when going into stores and restaurants, little has changed. I can't believe that there are people who have literally locked themselves into their homes for over a year. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
We actually started masking-up, following a fairly rigorous decontamination protocol, and limiting "social interaction" fairly early-on. I recall walking into stores being the only individual wearing a mask. I stopped visiting my gym a week before they were closed by Gov. Whitler's order. But... It soon became apparent to me one of two things was happening: Either Fauci, WHO, CDC, etc., etc. were lying to us, or they simply had no clue what was going on and were just making noise. That was the end of the "extreme" measures. We still mask-up when required by stores. I don't know about my wife, but I don't when they don't. My gym does not require it so I do not. We both still disinfect our hands upon returning to our vehicles and are diligent about hand-washing, but we no longer "decontaminate" groceries and packages. We're both still taking elevated amounts of Vit. C and D as a prophylactic measure. IOW: About the same as we do during cold & flu season. Neither one of us plans to get vaccinated. (My doc asked me about it. "No thanks, doc. I'd sooner take my chances with the Wu Flu than a rushed experimental vaccine." He dropped it.) Speaking of masking-up... "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why we can't go back to normal once everyone who wants the vaccine gets it. Once the most vulnerable people and front line workers are covered it shouldn't matter that the rest of us low risk folks don't get it. We won't be filling up the hospitals, and wasn't that the whole goal to begin with? Mongo only pawn in game of life... | |||
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Info Guru |
No, that was just what they were pushing publicly - two weeks to 'flatten the curve'. That was debunked over a year go, that was never the real goal. Whatever the goal was, it was never really just to 'flatten the curve' of hospitalizations. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Madness. California's public universities to require COVID-19 vaccine SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Two of the nation's largest university systems say they intend to require COVID-19 vaccinations for all students, faculty and staff on University of California and California State University campuses this fall. Several U.S. colleges and universities also have said they plan to require the vaccination. But Thursday’s joint announcement from the 10-campus University of California and the 23-campus California State University is the largest of its kind in American higher education. The CSU system in the nation's biggest four-year college system, with about 485,000 students and tens of thousands of staff, while the UC system has more than 280,000 students. “Together, the CSU and UC enroll and employ more than one million students and employees across 33 major university campuses, so this is the most comprehensive and consequential university plan for COVID-19 vaccines in the country,” CSU Chancellor Joseph I. Castro said in the statement. Stanford University also announced a mandate Thursday requiring all of its 19,000 students to be vaccinated when classes start in the fall. https://news.yahoo.com/califor...covid-212547887.html ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
^^^Publicly funded, so I predict a Lawsuit in 3, 2, 1... ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Run Silent Run Deep |
Really? Pa requires school kids to be vaccinated... Why is this different? _____________________________ Pledge allegiance or pack your bag! The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. - Margaret Thatcher Spread my work ethic, not my wealth | |||
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Because this has Emergency Use Authorization only. It is not approved. It has not been tested for efficacy or side effects. There are zero long term studies etc. | |||
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10mm is The Boom of Doom |
Plus healthy, young people are at more risk of being struck by lightening, while being kidnapped by space aliens, during a solar eclipse than they are to die due to Covid. Not just with Covid, but due to covid. I could die with bad breath, that doesn't mean I died due to bad breath. *** NEWS FLASH *** Every year, millions and millions of people around the world die with halitosis. Breath mints are the solution to this scourge of mankind. If you don't like breath mints, you are anti-science and should be cancelled. *** NEWS FLASH *** God Bless and Protect the Once and Future President, Donald John Trump. | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
Well, apparently the self-appointed masters in the PA gov't have their heads up their ass! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
All of that factors into the statistical analysis: April 24, 2021 How to Make a COVID Vaccination Decision In the debate over whether one should or should not get the COVID vaccination, much has been said about the “science.” However, I’m not sure any encyclopedic knowledge of “science” is required to make this health decision. Simple statistical analysis should suffice to inform one’s ultimate decision. Statistics is primarily a study of probabilities. Fortunately, as regards COVID mortality rates, these probabilities are now known. That is, COVID mortality statistics broken down by age cohorts are now “known knowables.” For example, through statistics as of April 7, the odds an American under the age of 25 would die from COVID were 1-in-106,217. On the extreme other end of the age spectrum, the odds an American 85 or older would die from the disease were an eye-opening 1-in-39.4. (Not surprisingly, albeit under-reported, the largest category of COVID victims by age cohort is Americans 85 and older). This means that the probability a person in our country’s oldest age cohort (85 and older) will die from or with COVID is 2,696 times greater than the nation’s youngest citizens (those under the age of 25). Given these statistics, If I was much older, I would almost certainly get the vaccine. But since I’m not in this age group, I don’t think there’s any pressing need for me to get the vaccine. That is, I can afford to wait and learn of any possible long-term (or short-term) negative effects. Iran's Goals As my young children’s odds of dying from COVID are probably around 1-in-700,000, I definitely don’t think they should get a vaccine... especially where the long-term effects of these vaccines are the very definition of “unknowable.” One’s race and whether one would qualify as obese are other important variables that either increase or reduce one’s mortality risks of COVID. Mortality among minority populations is significantly higher than non-minorities. I also recently learned that 68 percent of COVID victims met the medical definition of “obese.” That is, one’s age, race, as well as one’s “body mass index” are all crucial variables in correctly calculating one’s own specific “risks” of dying of COVID-19. And, again, “health risks” can be quantified when seeking to calculate one’s own probability of dying from COVID. It is also, by now, a “known knowable” that about 50 percent of people who have been vaccinated will experience some negative side effects. Typically, these side effects are minor, ranging from a sore arm to a day or two of “flulike” symptoms. Also, even the most zealous boosters of universal vaccination would acknowledge that a tiny percentage of those who have been vaccinated will experience significant adverse reactions (including death in some “anomaly” cases). Basically, simple statistical analysis of known data tells most Americans if they are in the group who should get vaccinated. However, if a person happens to belong to groups which include almost a zero probability of dying from COVID, why would such a person swap this microscopic risk of dying when he or she knows they have a coin-flip chance of experiencing at least some minor discomfort caused by the vaccine? Furthermore, why would one assume these “knowable” risks when it’s impossible (at the moment) to know any of the possible long-term effects? As for those who have already contracted the virus (especially those in younger age groups), research and known data tells us that the probability any of these people will contract the virus again -- and then die from it -- are as close to zero as one can get. Those in this category would also seem to be assuming many “known” -- and even likely -- statistical risks… All to prevent an outcome that, expressed statistically, is almost an impossibility. All this said, I certainly believe any adult who wants to get a vaccine should do so. At some point, I might choose to get vaccinated. What bothers me is when people tell individuals like me that we should get the vaccine. What really alarms me is the group that is advocating for mandatory vaccines for everyone, including my young children (who, literally, have a greater chance of being struck by lightning than dying from COVID). Friends have told me there is “no good reason” to not get vaccinated. This is simply not true. There are dozens of valid reasons someone can decide to pass on the vaccine, or at least wait a little longer to allow more time to gauge the results and possible side effects. This is especially true for those whose own risks of dying from the virus are, statistically, almost nonexistent. https://www.americanthinker.co...nation_decision.html "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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You left out a group of patients that have had Covid and now have serious medical issues. Sadly many of these are in the younger age groups. I do not think we have accurate stats on that group, although we should. | |||
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Be not wise in thine own eyes |
It’s been over a year folks. Please remember to wash your face diaper. “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
This mother has my greatest respect. I wish all mothers, all parents, had this same passion and courage to speak out. Putting masks on our children for over a year now has been one of the most shameful, inglorious actions i have witnessed in my adult life. Shame on us. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Partial dichotomy |
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MIT Study Challenges Social Distancing Guidelines, 6 Foot Rule https://www.newsmax.com/us/cov...21/04/24/id/1018849/ A new study published by researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology says you’re no safer from COVID-19 indoors at 6 feet or 60 feet, challenging social distance policies. The study, led by Martin Z. Bazant, a chemical engineering and applied mathematics teacher, and John W.M. Bush, a professor of applied mathematics, argues that there "really isn't much of a benefit to the 6-foot rule, especially when people are wearing masks," Bazant told CNBC. "It really has no physical basis because the air a person is breathing while wearing a mask tends to rise and comes down elsewhere in the room so you're more exposed to the average background than you are to a person at a distance," he added. The study points out that contrary to arguments by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization, the amount of time you spend with an infected person indoors puts you at risk due to the air currents moving in the background. The researchers say opening windows and installing fans is just as good as spending large amounts of money on expensive air filters. Researchers also said indoor occupancy caps were also flawed, saying 20 people gathered together for one minute inside would be fine. "What our analysis continues to show is that many spaces that have been shut down in fact don't need to be," Bazant told CNBC. "Often times the space is large enough, the ventilation is good enough, the amount of time people spend together is such that those spaces can be safely operated even at full capacity and the scientific support for reduced capacity in those spaces is really not very good...think if you run the numbers, even right now for many types of spaces you'd find that there is not a need for occupancy restrictions. "This emphasis on distancing has been really misplaced from the very beginning," he added. "The CDC or WHO have never really provided justification for it, they've just said this is what you must do and the only justification I'm aware of, is based on studies of coughs and sneezes, where they look at the largest particles that might sediment onto the floor and even then it's very approximate, you can certainly have longer or shorter range, large droplets. "If you look at the air flow outside, the infected air would be swept away and very unlikely to cause transmission. There are very few recorded instances of outdoor transmission...Crowded spaces outdoor could be an issue, but if people are keeping a reasonable distance of like 3 feet outside, I feel pretty comfortable with that even without masks frankly." "We need scientific information conveyed to the public in a way that is not just fearmongering but is actually based in analysis," Bazant said. https://www.pnas.org/content/118/17/e2018995118 _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Down the Rabbit Hole |
A few hundred people gather in London. LONDON 24th April 2021 - ONE LOVE ONE HEART - WE ARE THE LIGHT LOVE PEOPLE Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell | |||
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