Poor infection control practices. Changes would result if you spoke with the right folks. On the other hand recent studies have indicated that fomite transmission is almost impossible. The practices here mimic the Dollar Store best practices for COVID control.

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Hospitalized patients all ages.

https://www.thelancet.com/jour...(20)32656-8/fulltext

Lancet ok with you??

Peachy.

I see 76% in that study reported at least one lingering symptom. The highlights: 63% fatigue or muscle weakness, 27%, pain or discomfort, 26% Sleep difficulties, 23% anxiety or depression, 22% hair loss, 11% smell disorder, and the remaining symptoms reported were less than 10%.

I'd be curious to know what percentage of people that were hospitalized for non-COVID reasons reported these symptoms six or more months after being hospitalized.

Or better yet, how many people that weren’t hospitalized and never had COVID had those symptoms six or more months after COVID started. I know I did.

The above study is one of many. The point is that for many COVID patients the problems linger. It is just recently that these studies have come to light.

the L.A. City Council voted last month to mandate large grocers and drugstores pay workers an extra $5 per hour over the next four months ("hero pay")

Kroger, the country's largest grocery chain, says the hourly wage for a Ralph's or Food 4 Less employee is $18 on average and comes out to $24 an hour when benefits are factored in.

Two Ralphs stores and one Food 4 Less, both of which are owned by Kroger, will shut down, joining two other Kroger locations that closed over a $4 hero pay hike in Long Beach, California, earlier this year.

“The mandate will add an additional $20 million in operating costs over the next 120 days, making it financially unsustainable to continue operating underperforming locations,” Kroger said in a news release. “The Los Angeles City Council disregarded their own Economic Impact Report by not considering that grocery stores – even in a pandemic – operate on razor-thin profit margins in a very competitive landscape.”

A total of 289 associates at the three L.A. stores will be affected by the May 15 closures

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...es-backfire-n2586089

It is interesting how we are now abusing the term, "HERO". I remember when that guy jumped into the icy waters of the Potomac to save that woman after the plane crash. He did not like being called a hero, and said he was just doing the right thing.

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the L.A. City Council voted last month to mandate large grocers and drugstores pay workers an extra $5 per hour over the next four months ("hero pay")

We have some of the dumbest people currently alive running some our states and our country. The decisions being made since the beginning of this pandemic in response to it simply astound one in their absolute lack of reasoning and logic. First and foremost of this is the godforsaken masks. My God, how I hate these damn things.

At my store they obsessively wipe down the credit card machines after every use. I bet we’ve had to replace all of them at least five times in the last year. You never know they malfunctioning until there’s a line of people at the register and the transaction won’t finish.

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It is interesting how we are now abusing the term, "HERO".

I'm a retired prison nurse. Over the years I've been exposed to TB, HIV/AIDS, hepatitis, MRSA, VRE, whatever strains of cold or flu going around every year, every venereal disease known to man, and probably a bunch of stuff that I didn't know about.

I've been called a hell of a lot of things, but never a hero.

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The above study is one of many. The point is that for many COVID patients the problems linger. It is just recently that these studies have come to light.

The lancet study studied people who had been hospitalized. Do the other studies indicate residual symptoms if the patients were not terribly uncomfortable when they were infected? Or is it only those who were really ill that have lasting problems?

[quote]The lancet study studied people who had been hospitalized. Do the other studies indicate residual symptoms if the patients were not terribly uncomfortable when they were infected? Or is it only those who were really ill that have lasting problems?
 
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Good point. These studies are in their INFANCY. We used to think folks just recovered with no problems. For a while we were concerned with college athletes with mild symptoms developing heart problems. It turns out that was overblown. We do know that some asymptomatic patients develop these issues. COVID does affect not only the respiratory system but also the heart and brain. An occupational therapist I know works with post covid patients. Many are confined to wheelchairs and behave like stroke patients. Of course this is NOT the majority of hospitalized patients, but more than you would imagine.

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every venereal disease known to man

Hey man, that is sexist and profiling and gender-bashing and maybe even fattening! Women have just as much right to have "venereals" as men!

The Lockdowns Weren’t Worth It There’s a reason no government has done a cost-benefit analysis: The policy would surely fail
This is an editorial in the WSJ.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott announced last week that his state is ending its mask mandate and business capacity limits. While Democrats and many public-health officials denounced the move, ample data now exist to demonstrate that the benefits of stringent measures aren’t worth the costs.

This wasn’t always the case. A year ago I publicly advocated lockdowns because they seemed prudent given how little was known at the time about the virus and its effects. But locking society down has become the default option of governments all over the world, regardless of cost.
More than a year after the pandemic began, vaccination is under way in both Europe and the U.S. Yet stringent restrictions are still in place on both sides of the Atlantic. Germany, Ireland and the U.K. are still in lockdown, while France is two months into a 6 p.m. curfew that the French government says will last for at least four more weeks. In many U.S. states, in-person schooling is still rare.

This time last year we had no idea how difficult it would be to control the virus. Given how fast it had been spreading, people made the reasonable assumption that most of the population would be infected in a few weeks unless we somehow reduced transmission. Projections by the Imperial College Covid-19 Response Team in London projected that more than two million Americans could die in a few months. A lockdown would cut transmission, and while it couldn’t prevent all infections, it would keep hospitals from being overwhelmed. It would “flatten the curve.”



We have since learned that the virus never spreads exponentially for very long, even without stringent restrictions. The epidemic always recedes well before herd immunity has been reached. As I argue in a report for the Center for the Study of Partisanship and Ideology, people get scared and change their behavior as hospitalizations and deaths increase. This, in turn, reduces transmission.

I’ve looked at more than 100 regions and countries. None have seen exponential growth of the pandemic continue until herd immunity was reached, regardless of whether a government lockdown or other stringent measure was imposed. People eventually revert to more-relaxed behavior. When they do, the virus starts spreading again. That’s why we see the “inverted U-shape” of cases and deaths everywhere.

Sweden was the first to learn this lesson, but many other countries have confirmed it. Initially held up as a disaster by many in the pro-lockdown crowd, Sweden has ended up with a per capita death rate indistinguishable from that of the European Union. In the U.S., Georgia’s hands-off policies were once called an “experiment in human sacrifice” by the Atlantic. But like Sweden, Georgia today has a per capita death rate that is effectively the same as the rest of the country.

That isn’t to say that restrictions have no effect. Had Sweden adopted more-stringent restrictions, it’s likely the epidemic would have started receding a bit earlier and incidence would have fallen a bit faster. But policy may not matter as much as people assumed it did. Lockdowns can destroy the economy, but it’s starting to look as if they have minimal effect on the spread of Covid-19.

After a year of observation and data collection, the case for lockdowns has grown much weaker. Nobody denies overwhelmed hospitals are bad, but so is depriving people of a normal life, including kids who can’t attend school or socialize during precious years of their lives. Since everyone hasn’t been vaccinated, many wouldn’t yet be living normally even without restrictions. But government mandates can make things worse by taking away people’s ability to socialize and make a living.

The coronavirus lockdowns constitute the most extensive attacks on individual freedom in the West since World War II. Yet not a single government has published a cost-benefit analysis to justify lockdown policies—something policy makers are often required to do while making far less consequential decisions. If my arguments are wrong and lockdown policies are cost-effective, a government document should be able to demonstrate that. No government has produced such a document, perhaps because officials know what it would show.

Mr. Lemoine is a doctoral candidate in philosophy at Cornell University and a fellow at the Center for the Study of Partisanship and Ideology.

So Mr. Lemoine will be removed and cancelled next? That seems to be SOP for naysayers. The truth hurts, so truth sayers must go.

hAHAHA. I doubt that. It will get some pretty extensive publicity since it is published in the WSJ. Remember the editorial about Jill Biden? It was published in the WSJ and as far as I know he is still breathing.

Ex-Merck Rep Brandy Vaughan exposes Big Pharma
https://brandnewtube.com/watch...dZsgOmpDcyWy1To.html


Santa Barbara Coroner Concludes Anti-Vaxxer Brandy Vaughan Died of Natural Causes
https://www.independent.com/20...d-of-natural-causes/

Vaccine Whistleblower, Brandy Vaughan, Found Dead
http://s3r.news/vaccine-whistl...y-vaughn-found-dead/

Vaccine whistleblower, Brandy Vaughan, was found dead last week, killed in her home.

Brandy Vaughan, 47, was initially a pharmaceutical employee who sold Vioxx, a painkiller medication sold by the company Merck. It eventually came to light that Vioxx was found to double the risk of stroke and heart attacks in people.

The company Merck, knowingly continued to distribute the painkillers, knowing its prospective dangers. The medical journal Lancet estimates that 88,000 Americans had heart attacks from taking Vioxx, and 38,000 of them died. Merck, eventually had to settle the biggest pharma lawsuit in history, to the tune of 4.85 billion dollars to thousands of people.

After the Pharmaceutical industry’s methodic profit-over-people campaign was realized, the Merck employee quit. She left the country, going to Europe saying, “I realized that just because something is on the market doesn’t mean it’s safe. Much of what we are told by the healthcare industry just simply isn’t the truth.”

To fight back, she started a non profit, Learn the Risk, to expose the dangers of the Pharmaceutical drug industry, including vaccines and unnecessary medical treatments that have caused illness and death in countless people outside the Merck trials. She instead dedicated her life to giving people natural, safe, holistic healing options.

Brandy was on a mission, and doing damage.

Learn The Risk had created over forty educational events and rallies in three years.

LTR’s monthly website traffic was at 10,000+.

And the organization had created over 42 billboards with an estimated reach of over 30 million people.

But she knew she was in danger after she returned to the United States with her then 6-month-old son and started receiving a multitude of death threats.

It got so bad, she recorded a 12 minute video detailing the home invasions and intimidation she was enduring, so that everyone could be aware of the pressure and danger she was in.


But the harassment didn’t stop, so she went on Facebook to write a public statement, detailing how if she’s been killed, to know it’s been done by the Pharmaceutical drug industry.


And just as she predicted, tragedy soon struck. On December 7th, 2020, Brandy Vaughan was found dead by her 9-year-old son Bastien.

Anyone that’s stood up against government profit knows how real surveillance, intimidation, imprisonment and death is to those that challenge the system.

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Ex-Merck Rep Brandy Vaughan exposes Big Pharma

"My son, who is five years of age, and is completely vaccine free...".

Done.

Nutjob.

The story about Vioxx and the Cox 2 inhibitors is very timely, 2004.
What is next, breaking news about Thalidomide?

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Originally posted by Jupiter:
Ex-Merck Rep Brandy Vaughan exposes Big Pharma

"My son, who is five years of age, and is completely vaccine free...".

Done.

Nutjob.

She's Crazy, huh?!
Everyone who watches these videos can see for themselves.
She's out there with the Hale-Bopp comet.

Speak up----Die!! RIP Brandy!

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Speak up----Die!! RIP Brandy!

Yep. Big Pharma hired some mercs to rub her out.