quote:

Originally posted by sjtill:

Antibody studies almost certainly underestimate natural immunity. Antibody testing doesn’t capture antigen-specific T-cells, which develop “memory” once they are activated by the virus. Survivors of the 1918 Spanish flu were found in 2008—90 years later—to have memory cells still able to produce neutralizing antibodies.

Researchers at Sweden’s Karolinska Institute found that the percentage of people mounting a T-cell response after mild or asymptomatic Covid-19 infection consistently exceeded the percentage with detectable antibodies. T-cell immunity was even present in people who were exposed to infected family members but never developed symptoms. A group of U.K. scientists in September pointed out that the medical community may be under-appreciating the prevalence of immunity from activated T-cells.

emphasis mine.

T-Cell Immunity is hardly a new concept; one must wonder why SOME members of the medical community have under-appreciated the prevalence of activated T-cell immunity for Covid-19.

Link[/QUOTE]

quote:

Originally posted by gearhounds:
I have a buddy in one of the previously highest Covid numbers densities in PA that has a kid in a private school that has been there through a vast majority of this madness. When a teacher tests positive, they send That person home for 14 days, not the whole school. They’ve been doing perfectly fine. Completely opposite of what the leftist “science” suggests to expect.

That would be a focus on common sense and on proper priorities. Shame its so rare in today's completely delusional bug agenda.

quote:

Originally posted by Mustang-PaPa:
So damn glad gov Abbott has decided to open Tx back up but boy we have our resisters who are bitching and complaining.

Alamo Draft House posted this in response to the re-opening:


A few hours later, this was announced:

https://www.beckershospitalrev...r-covid-19-case.html

State-by-state breakdown of federal aid per COVID-19 case
Ayla Ellison (Twitter) - Tuesday, April 14th, 2020 Print | Emai


HHS recently began distributing the first $30 billion of emergency funding designated for hospitals in the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act. Some of the states hit hardest by the COVID-19 pandemic will receive less funding than states touched relatively lightly, according to an analysis by Kaiser Health News.

The first round of grants will be distributed based on historical share Medicare revenue, not based on COVID-19 burden. Therefore, hard-hit states like New York will receive far less per COVID-19 case than most other states.

HHS said it doled out the first slice of funding based on Medicare revenue to get support to hospitals as quickly as possible. The agency said the next round of grants "will focus on providers in areas particularly impacted by the COVID-19 outbreak," rural hospitals and other healthcare providers that receive much of their revenues from Medicaid.

Below is a breakdown of how much funding per COVID-19 case each state will receive from the first $30 billion in aid. Kaiser Health News used a state breakdown provided to the House Ways and Means Committee by HHS along with COVID-19 cases tabulated by The New York Times for its analysis.

Alabama
$158,000 per COVID-19 case

Alaska
$306,000

Arizona
$23,000

Arkansas
$285,000

California
$145,000

Colorado
$58,000

Connecticut
$38,000

Delaware
$127,000

District of Columbia
$56,000

Florida
$132,000

Georgia
$73,000

Hawaii
$301,000

Idaho
$100,000

Illinois
$73,000

Indiana
$105,000

Iowa
$235,000

Kansas
$291,000

Kentucky
$297,000

Louisiana
$26,000

Maine
$260,000

Maryland
$120,000

Massachusetts
$44,000

Michigan
$44,000

Minnesota
$380,000

Mississippi
$166,000

Missouri
$175,000

Montana
$315,000

Nebraska
$379,000

Nevada
$98,000

New Hampshire
$201,000

New Jersey
$18,000

New Mexico
$171,000

New York
$12,000

North Carolina
$252,000

North Dakota
$339,000

Ohio
$180,000

Oklahoma
$291,000

Oregon
$220,000

Pennsylvania
$68,000

Rhode Island
$52,000

South Carolina
$186,000

South Dakota
$241,000

Tennessee
$166,000

Texas
$184,000

Utah
$94,000

Vermont
$87,000

Virginia
$201,000

Washington
$58,000

West Virginia
$471,000

Wisconsin
$163,000

Wyoming
$278,000

Just to clarify, that article is from April 2020. Wasn't there another bill passed since then?

quote:

Originally posted by bigdeal:
Yep, my hat's off to Abbott in Texas and Reeves in Mississippi for finally ending the insanity. Now how about our governor (DeSantis) following their lead and letting all of us get back to normal. Hopefully not too far out...

DeSantis eliminated mandatory Masks back in Sept of last year and took a ton of crap from the media and maskholes, Link

FL has been ahead of the curve, DeSantis prohibited cities like Whorelando, Tampon, MyHami, from stepping over the State and enforcing public mask laws which the Mayors in those cites wanted.

Florida
Statewide order: No

Florida recommends but does not require face coverings for the general public. Several cities and large counties, including Miami-Dade, Palm Beach and Hillsborough (which includes Tampa), have mask requirements, but local governments are barred from assessing fines and penalties for noncompliance under a Sept. 25 executive order by Gov. Ron DeSantis.

Learn more: Read Florida’s public health advisory.

Now if private property owners (stores) want to make you wear one on their property, then it's your choice if you want to enter their business. No different than requiring shoes and shirts to enter....

This is a very odd and concerning headline from the NYT to me:

Covid-19: The U.S. Is Edging Toward Normal, Alarming Some Officials

Why would going back to normal "alarm" "some officials"?



Is that because they NEVER HAD ANY INTENTION of going back to "normal"?

I posted months ago that I expected to see cases among young people to become a larger percentage of the total once schools opened up. That hasn’t happened at all in my county. Schools opened in August and there hasn’t been a discernible change in the percentages by age group. Also, new cases in the schools in my county have dropped like a rock over the last two months. For example, there were 22 cases at my daughter’s school from August through December and none for the last two months. Maybe it’s an indication of herd immunity.

quote:

Originally posted by stoic-one:
Just to clarify, that article is from April 2020. Wasn't there another bill passed since then?

Yes..... you are correct. This was from very early into the Plandemic. I should have pointed that out.

This shows just some of the incentives that were used to get everyone to go along with this B.S..

quote:

Originally posted by trapper189:
I posted months ago that I expected to see cases among young people to become a larger percentage of the total once schools opened up. That hasn’t happened at all in my county. Schools opened in August and there hasn’t been a discernible change in the percentages by age group. Also, new cases in the schools in my county have dropped like a rock over the last two months. For example, there were 22 cases at my daughter’s school from August through December and none for the last two months. Maybe it’s an indication of herd immunity.

It simply doesn't seem to affect children all that much.

quote:

Originally posted by HRK:

quote:

Originally posted by bigdeal:
Yep, my hat's off to Abbott in Texas and Reeves in Mississippi for finally ending the insanity. Now how about our governor (DeSantis) following their lead and letting all of us get back to normal. Hopefully not too far out...

DeSantis eliminated mandatory Masks back in Sept of last year and took a ton of crap from the media and maskholes, Link

FL has been ahead of the curve, DeSantis prohibited cities like Whorelando, Tampon, MyHami, from stepping over the State and enforcing public mask laws which the Mayors in those cites wanted.

Florida
Statewide order: No

Florida recommends but does not require face coverings for the general public. Several cities and large counties, including Miami-Dade, Palm Beach and Hillsborough (which includes Tampa), have mask requirements, but local governments are barred from assessing fines and penalties for noncompliance under a Sept. 25 executive order by Gov. Ron DeSantis.

Learn more: Read Florida’s public health advisory.

Now if private property owners (stores) want to make you wear one on their property, then it's your choice if you want to enter their business. No different than requiring shoes and shirts to enter....

Thank you very much for posting that. Even when I think I'm up to date, sometimes I'm not. And without a statewide mask mandate, I wish private business bed wetters the best of luck 'forcing' anyone to wear a mask. I think I shall throw my very last mask in the garbage can this afternoon, never to wear one again (not like I wore one much anyway). Thanks again.

quote:

Originally posted by bigdeal:
Thank you very much for posting that. Even when I think I'm up to date, sometimes I'm not. And without a statewide mask mandate, I wish private business bed wetters the best of luck 'forcing' anyone to wear a mask. I think I shall throw my very last mask in the garbage can this afternoon, never to wear one again (not like I wore one much anyway). Thanks again.

Yep pretty much like no Firearms, it is the same, up to the owner to say what policy is on their property and your decision on to put it on and go in, or go elsewhere...

As soon as it gains traction, now with Bama, MS, TX, others will follow and people will start dumping masks, business will follow.

Honestly I think less people would mask up in FL if they didn't want to "upset" others, or be outed so to speak.

Shame, cancel culture, bully mentality is winning since most of us don't want conflict, TX changing will help go a long way to fixing this societal problem...

I'm probably in the minority here, but I have better things to worry about than a mask. Not worth arguing about. If it makes you feel better, I'll wear one in your store. Not a big deal. Just don't be an asshole about it.

quote:

Originally posted by bigdeal:
Yep, my hat's off to Abbott in Texas and Reeves in Mississippi for finally ending the insanity.

While I'm glad Reeves has ended the insanity for now in Mississippi, there is no guarantee it will stay that way. That piece of DOG SHIT has gone along with their agenda and people in this state have died because they couldn't get treated for other illnesses. This is not over by any stretch of the imagination. They have a good thing going keeping the sheep in fear. Look of Covid-20,21,etc. with yearly vaccines.

I don't believe Alabama has actually taken action on the mask mandate yet, however Gov. Ivey (we call her Me Maw), hasn't indicted whether she'll let it expire in 2 days on Friday 3/5. My guess is that she'll let it expire though.

I'm sure there will be similar gnashing of teeth over it regardless.

quote:

Originally posted by V-Tail:
Just don't be an asshole about it.

I have no intention of being an asshole about it (or anything else god willing), but the type of response I offer is generally driven by the behavior of the person I'm dealing with. Case in point, I was in 5Guys grabbing a burger the other day (unmasked) and the kid behind the counter asked me if I would like a mask. I told him thank you so much, but I was fine. Everything from that point forward progressed very politely and friendly. I even complimented the kid on how he handled the situation while his manager worked the grill.

quote:

Originally posted by bigdeal:

quote:

Originally posted by V-Tail:
Just don't be an asshole about it.

I have no intention of being an asshole about it

That was a generic statement that I made, and in no way was it intended to reflect on you, nor on any other member of SIGforum. I apologize if I did not make myself clear.

What was going through my mind, and perhaps did not make it through my fingers to the keyboard, was if somebody out there in the public feels more comfortable around me if I'm wearing a mask, that's OK, I don't mind, I will wear a mask, as long as that person is not Karen Asshole. In other words, ask me politely, and I'll do it. If the person is obnoxious, I might suggest that s/he self-fornicate. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding.

For those of you who haven't seen this.

Dr. Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR test, explains Dr. Fauci has an agenda

PCR test inventor and Nobel Prize winner Kerry Mullis calls out Dr. Fauci just before his untimely death in August 2019.

Dr. Kary Mullis invented the PCR test in 1983. He was given the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for it.

He explains that “people at the top” like Dr. Fauci “have an agenda”. Fauci thinks you can just throw some blood under an electron microscope and be able to see a virus, and that’s just not the case. When asked by South Carolina University president to debate Dr. Mullis, Dr. Fauci declined.



Here's a link to the same video on another site just in case this one stops working.
https://leakedreality.com/vide.../fauci-knows-nothing

Well, AL just extended their mask mandate through 4/9, but lifted restrictions on certain (restaurant and bar) gathering sizes... Soooo... We're NOT neanderthals.

Neanderthals. Nice way to alienate the people of Mississippi and Texas. Quite a vocabulary Joe.