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So... If someone died from COVID, your family wins 7K.
If you die from something else, say Cancer or Heart disease, whats the win? 5K? 3K? Will there be a sliding scale? And what if you die from COVID and a combination of another commonly fatal illness? Wouldnt that rate a bonus?
I have many questions... Roll Eyes


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You’re overthinking it, all deaths are Covid right now.




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So... If someone died from COVID, your family wins 7K.
If you die from something else, say Cancer or Heart disease, whats the win? 5K? 3K? Will there be a sliding scale? And what if you die from COVID and a combination of another commonly fatal illness? Wouldnt that rate a bonus?
I have many questions... Roll Eyes
An interesting question for AOC the Tard would be..."Just what do you think people 'should' have to pay for?" That answer would probably scare the hell out of every reasonable person in the country and exhibit for all that this woman is mentally retarded and has no grasp of reality.


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Watch now as medical examiners start receiving bribes from family members to write Covid on the death certificate.

God, save us from this idiocy.


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An interesting question for AOC the Tard would be..."Just what do you think people 'should' have to pay for?"
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Instagram Bans Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Over Covid-19 Vaccine Misinformation

nstagram removed the account of prominent vaccine skeptic Robert F. Kennedy Jr., one of the highest-profile steps in parent company Facebook Inc.’s FB -0.08% intensifying effort to combat false and misleading information about Covid-19.

An Instagram spokeswoman said Wednesday that the company permanently removed the account “for repeatedly sharing debunked claims about the coronavirus or vaccines.” Mr. Kennedy had more than 800,000 followers on Instagram before the account was closed, according to the company.

As of late Wednesday, Mr. Kennedy’s Facebook page, which has more than 300,000 followers, was still up.

Mr. Kennedy couldn’t immediately be reached for comment late Wednesday. His Twitter account, which has some 214,000 followers and where he also frequently criticizes vaccines, also remained up as of Wednesday night.

Facebook earlier this week said it was stepping up efforts to remove false statements related to Covid-19, Covid vaccines and vaccines in general on both its flagship platform and Instagram. The company said a longer list of claims deemed false by leading health authorities—including that vaccines are ineffective and more dangerous than contracting the targeted disease—would be subject to removal.

Facebook said it has already been deleting some false claims since December, and it warned that accounts that repeatedly share debunked claims could be removed altogether.

Both vaccines currently in distribution in the U.S. proved effective in preventing Covid-19 illness in clinical trials in 2020. Public-health officials say vaccinating people is an essential part of halting the virus’s spread.

Mr. Kennedy, the nephew of the late President John F. Kennedy, is a longtime environmental activist who has criticized vaccines for years, including raising doubts about thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative used in some vaccines. He has often used his social-media channels to broadcast his views, lately including criticisms of the Covid vaccines.

A recent report about antivaccine influencers by the Center for Countering Digital Hate, a nonprofit group that advocates against extremism and misinformation online, said Mr. Kennedy is one of the top influencers helping the online spread of what it called false information about Covid-19, including that the virus isn’t dangerous.

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Facebook has for years pledged to fight vaccine misinformation online, and has at times struggled to corral false claims. In the past it was found to be running paid ads for prominent antivaccination groups even after vowing to crack down on such content. Doctored videos and politically tied misinformation have also long found homes on the platform.

Facebook began dealing with coronavirus misinformation early in the pandemic. Initially it tweaked search results for “coronavirus” to direct users toward recognized and authoritative medical sources and removed content flagged as misleading by major health organizations. It put warning labels on millions of pieces of content related to Covid-19, and in December began notifying users about posts they interacted with that were removed because they violated the company’s policies about Covid-19 misinformation that could lead to imminent physical harm.

Write to Sebastian Herrera at Sebastian.Herrera@wsj.com



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"The first casualty of war is truth."

Facebook, Instagram, Amazon, Big Pharma and Big Tech will do everything possible to censor free and open debate.
Mr. Kennedy welcomes it.

Here’s the transcript from Kennedy’s International Message of Hope for Humanity.

Hey everybody it’s Robert F Kennedy, Jr. here and I cannot tell you how happy I am to be able to have this opportunity to talk to thousands of citizens in 15 countries on all the continents in the world who have come together today to protest this coup d’état by big data, by big telecom, by big tech, by the big oil and chemical companies and by the global public health cartel led by Bill Gates and the WHO that now amounts to two trillion dollars and wants to magnify and amplify its wealth and its power over our lives, over our liberties, that wants to subvert our democracies and want to destroy our sovereignty and our control over our lives and our children’s health.

I want to remind you, those of you who are not Americans, of something that every American child learns when we’re growing up in this country about our history. During the great depression Franklin Roosevelt, who was one of the greatest presidents in American history, said to the American people, “The only thing that we have to fear is fear itself.” We grow up hearing that but people don’t really understand what it means, but it was a very, very profound warning by Roosevelt because he saw what the great depression was doing in eastern Europe and Italy in Germany and Spain. Where that crisis was turning people towards fascism in the eastern countries. Where the same crisis was turning citizens and governments towards communism and also causing the collapse of governments all over the world, And in our country — in the United States — it’s hard for people to remember today that almost a third of the people in our country were completely disillusioned with capitalism and wanted to turn to communism and another third wanted to turn to fascism. And Franklin Roosevelt wanted to preserve our country for democracy… for free market capitalism, for civil rights and to preserve our constitution. He recognized that the weapon of authoritarian control was going to be fear.

And when I spoke a few weeks ago in Berlin, I reminded the people of Germany of a very famous story that happened during the Nuremberg trials after World War II when Hitler’s closest Lieutenant, the head of the Luftwaffe, Hermann Goering was asked by one of the prosecutors: “How did you get the German people — the German people, the most educated people in the world that were some of the most tolerant people in the world; the Weimar republic was one of the strongest democracies in the world — “how did you take these people who were so well educated and so awakened and so tolerant and turn them into obedient slaves who committed some of the worst atrocities in human history?” Goering said “Oh that’s a simple thing…” and any of you can look up his quote and I urge you to do so, and he said, and it works not just a fascist government but it works in a democracy, in a monarchy, in a communist government — in any government that you want the job of the government is to put the people in fear and if you can keep them in fear you can get them to do anything that you want them to do. They will turn into sheep.

There’s a famous book by Naomi Klein that all of us should read called, The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism. That book shows a historical chronology of all of the times during American history and the history of the world — during the great depression, during the financial collapse in 2008, during the financial collapse in Chile for example in 1973, during the time of the World Trade Center bombing — that authoritarian elements in a society, and large corporations, and wealthy plutocrats and oligarchs, wealthy families and individuals use crises to shift wealth upward to obliterate the middle classes of those countries and to clamp down totalitarian controls. And of course, it’s an obvious thing that people who are used to voting for their governments are not going to vote for policies that make the rich people richer, that give corporations even more power over their lives, that reduce democracy and reduce civil rights. These are not good vessels for populism. In order to transform the government so that it will reward the rich with even more wealth, the people who want to do that in the large corporations — who want to orchestrate that kind of change — have to get rid of civil rights. And the first civil right that they begin with is freedom of speech.

They need to clamp down censorship because censorship is the most important right in our country. We put it number one — the first amendment of the Constitution — because all the other rights depend on it. If a government can hide what it’s doing it can get away with anything it wants. If a corporation can lie to you and conceal information, if there’s no transparency in a democracy, you do not have a democracy. So, if you want to get rid of all the other rights like freedom of assembly — which you are exercising today, some of you are exercising at great threats. Some of you will suffer. Some of you will be jailed. Some of you will suffer injuries. But that is a basic right: the right to freedom of expression, the right to jury trial, the right to freedom of religion, the right to privacy, the right to have governments that don’t spy on you and keep your information. All of those other rights can only be subverted if they begin by imposing censorship — by being able to silence people who want to speak. So the coup d’état that we are all fighting today is a coup d’état that starts with a conspiracy between the government agencies and the big technology companies, the Silicon Valley billionaires — people like Zuckerberg and Bill Gates and the people who run Google and Facebook and Pinterest and all of these other Silicon Valley corporations who are now in this conspiracy to make sure that we cannot talk about our grievances. We cannot say bad things about pharmaceutical products, we cannot question government policies that make no sense to us.

And I’m going to say a few things about some of those government policies. Number one: I am not a conspiracy theorist. I follow the facts. I don’t know that the COVID illness was laboratory generated in Wuhan. There is plenty of evidence that it was. But not enough evidence for me to say that it’s a fact. But my question is: why don’t we know the answer to that? Why is Tony Fauci not being asked that question? Why is President Trump not launching an investigation? Or President Xi Jinping or the presidents of any of these countries? Saying, “Where did this come from?” Because we need to know that. The global citizens, this is the worst calamity in history. And nobody seems curious about where this actually comes from? We know it didn’t come from a bat in the wet market in Wuhan. That story was a fable that it now has no basis in fact. And we have Nobel laureates and we have large institutions and investigative agencies and prosecutorial agencies are saying “We think it came from the Wuhan lab and we think that it may have come from studies that were funded by Bill Gates and Tony Fauci. I don’t know if this is true. But why are our government officials not asking that as the number one question? Why instead of sending their police to suppress dissent are they not sending the police to question people who may know the answer to that question.

There are many other questions that I’d like to know the answer. Questions about masks. I’m very willing to accept if the masks work. Then I want to wear them. If they’re going to protect other people from transmissibility then want to wear them. But the studies that I’ve seen indicate that they do not work against viral transmission for the most part. There are some that say they may work under limited circumstances. What I don’t want to be told is: they work and you’re going to wear them and you better not ask questions about it. Most Americans, and most of the people on this planet — we want leadership we don’t want bullying. And we know the difference between bullying and leadership. We want to know the truth about hydroxychloroquine. We want to know why are we spending 18 billion dollars on vaccines and only 1.4 billion on therapeutic drugs. What is the sense of that? There are many, many other questions that we, in a democracy, have a right to have answered without being called conspiracy theorists. Without being vilified as being “inconsiderate” or being “bad citizens.” Everybody who’s part of these demonstrations are people who are striving with their lives to become good citizens.

Now let me tell you what we need to do to win this battle. The only way we can win it is with democracy. We need to fight to get our democracy back, to reclaim our democracy from these villains who are stealing it from us. You notice the people who are getting richest from this quarantine are the same people who are censoring criticism of the quarantine. Who is becoming the richest? Jeffrey Bezos. 83 billion dollars he’s made. And he owns Amazon and he is censoring books that criticize the quarantine. Zuckerberg who owns Facebook, who’s made tens of billions of dollars by this quarantine. And he is censoring information that is critical of the quarantine. He censors my Instagram. He censors my Facebook. My Twitter page is also censored. And all of these people are the people who are making billions of dollars on the quarantine. And what I want to know is a simple question: Is the quarantine actually effective? You know we’ve had plenty of pandemics in the past. In 1969, we had a Hong Kong flu pandemic that killed 100,000 people in the United States. It’s the equivalent of 200,000 people today. That’s the same number of people being killed by coronavirus. Did we go on to lock down? No. Did we wear masks? No. We went to Woodstock. We went to the Democratic Convention in Chicago and had huge crowds of people. Nobody was told to lock down and don’t see your girlfriend and wear a mask and don’t go out of your house and shut down your business and bankrupt every business in the country.

Last year there were 1.6 million people in the world who died from tuberculosis. We have 1.6 million people die every year from tuberculosis. We’re not wearing masks. We’re not on lockdown. What’s the difference between tuberculosis and coronavirus? Tuberculosis has a vaccine. And the vaccine costs about three dollars. And that’s why we’re not on lockdown. Because nobody is making thirty-nine dollars a vaccine or three hundred dollars a vaccine the way that Moderna and AstraZeneca and Johnson and Johnson are making from this catastrophe. And that is the only reason that I can think of. And I’m happy if somebody tells me there’s another reason. But let’s hear it. Don’t just shut me up. Don’t just tell me that I can’t debate.

Here’s what we need to do: we need to do exactly what you’re doing today. We need to come out on the street and we need to stick together. What the Big Tech villains and scoundrels and Mark Zuckerberg and Jeffrey Bezos and Bill Gates and Tony Fauci want you to do is, they want us fighting with each other. They want blacks fighting against whites. They want republicans fighting against democrats. They want everybody polarized, they want everybody fragmented because they know that if we all get together, we’re going to start asking questions and those are questions that they can’t answer. “Why are you getting rich?” And “Why are we all getting poor?” And “What’s the difference between tuberculosis and coronavirus?” And “Why are we not wearing masks for the tuberculosis but we are for the coronavirus?” And “Where did it all come from?” And all of those questions that we deserve an answer to that we’re not getting answers. We need to stick together.

If you’re a republican or democrat stop talking about that. Stop identifying yourself. The enemy is Big Tech, Big Data, Big Oil, Big Pharma, the medical cartel, the government totalitarian elements that are trying to oppress us, that are trying to rob us of our liberties, of our democracy, of our freedom of thought, of our freedom of expression, of our freedom of assembly and all of the freedoms that give dignity to humanity. And the last thing that all of us need to do is we need to stay educated and informed.

And one of the things that I want to announce to you today is that Children’s Health Defense — my organization, with the help of many of you who are in these crowds — is launching a journal, a daily journal, and we are going to weaponize information for you. We’re going to tell you what the newest science is. We’re going to take all the information that is censored everywhere else and we’re going to reprint it in our publication, and you can get that every day. So, if you see something that is censored we want to hear about it because we want to put it up. We are going to be the enemies of censorship. We are going to be the refuge. And we’re going to allow debate. We’re going to make sure it’s civil debate. We’re going to encourage people to be non-partisan. But we’re going to allow people to come and have different opinions than us. We are not scared of debate the way pharmaceutical companies and Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg and Jeffrey Bezos and Tony Fauci are terrified of debate. We welcome debate. We want to hear if you’ve got a different opinion than me, I want to hear about it and I want to see your science. And I want the public to hear us talking about it and debating about it because the free-flow of information, the cauldron of debate, is the only thing that allows governments to develop rational policies in which self-governance will actually work and triumph.

You are on the front lines of the most important battle in history and it is the battle to save democracy, and freedom, and human liberty, and human dignity from this totalitarian cartel that is trying to rob us simultaneously, in every nation in the world, of the rights that every human being is born with. So, thank you for your courage, thank you for your commitment, and thank you for your brotherhood. And I can pledge to you: I will go down dying with my boots on fighting side-by-side with all of you to make sure that we return these rights and preserve them for our children. I will see all of you on the barricades.

Thank you.


Here is the link to Mr. Kennedy's video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...yMI&feature=emb_logo


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Damn, what's wrong with me? How do I find myself agreeing with a Kennedy?

Strange times indeed.




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Damn, what's wrong with me? How do I find myself agreeing with a Kennedy?

Strange times indeed.


I feel the same way. Strange times indeed!

One of the most inspiring messages I've heard in a long time. No wonder they want to shut him down.


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Double mask? Yet another indication the human race is made up of stupid apes. That's some deep thinkin' there, Bonzo. Have a banana, buddy.

I'll double mask up when we get to COVID-38.

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... the second mask is safer if coated in urine.




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I’ve got an idea; let’s all start telling these morons what they’ve been touting for years- MY BODY, MY CHOICE. Watch their heads explode.




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Two mask that are PROPERLY fitted, is what they are reporting in my area.


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Two mask that are PROPERLY fitted, is what they are reporting in my area.


The CDC report also said that the effectiveness of two masks is not applicable to real world situations.


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And now the DFIC (Dumb Fuck In Charge) is saying that we'll likely be wearing masks for the next year.
https://www.foxnews.com/politi...orn-though-next-year

President Biden visited the National Institutes of Health complex on Thursday and he spoke about the U.S. vaccine supply and his goals for the rollout, but he also indicated that mask-wearing will likely be a reality for the next year.

He told reporters that even though he was standing on stage about 10 feet from Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Francis Collins, he would continue to wear his mask. He said that wearing the mask "though the next year" can save a significant number of lives.

Fuck him & fuck Fauci!


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The throttles are being pushed forward to accelerate to “Ludicrous Speed”.

As reported by National Review yesterday -

CDC Recommends Putting Hosiery over Your Face along with a Mask


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I saw some dumbass driving with two masks on but had his nose sticking out. SMH...

To my knowledge there is no data showing that cloth (non-N95) masks have any efficacy in preventing spread of COVID.

If anyone has actual scientific data (not the nebulous BS spouted by CDC on masks "Wearing a face mask may limit exposure to respiratory droplets and large particles and may help prevent people who have COVID-19 from spreading the virus") please post.



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And now the DFIC (Dumb Fuck In Charge) is saying that we'll likely be wearing masks for the next year.
https://www.foxnews.com/politi...orn-though-next-year

President Biden visited the National Institutes of Health complex on Thursday and he spoke about the U.S. vaccine supply and his goals for the rollout, but he also indicated that mask-wearing will likely be a reality for the next year.

He told reporters that even though he was standing on stage about 10 feet from Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Francis Collins, he would continue to wear his mask. He said that wearing the mask "though the next year" can save a significant number of lives.

Fuck him & fuck Fauci!


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The throttles are being pushed forward to accelerate to “Ludicrous Speed”.

As reported by National Review yesterday -

CDC Recommends Putting Hosiery over Your Face along with a Mask


Well, they're not actually recommending that in real life. They were simply reporting about how they had to perform their tests to make the masks effective. The only way the CDC could get an effective result was by putting hosiery over the mannequin's head to hold the mask tightly to its face. The key paragraph from the report that the media is ignoring when they say the CDC endorses double masking is this:

"The findings of these simulations should neither be generalized to the effectiveness of all medical procedure masks or cloths masks nor interpreted as being representative of the effectiveness of these masks when worn in real-world settings."

The CDC is not actually recommending people wear two masks as has been insinuated by the god awful media.


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Here ya go JJ.

I just started reading this and as there quite a few links to other studies and articles pertaining to the effectiveness or NOT of masking, it may take a little while to get through it and fully comprehend it.

From the American Institute for Economic Research -

Masking: A Careful Review of the Evidence


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I’ve got an idea; let’s all start telling these morons what they’ve been touting for years- MY BODY, MY CHOICE. Watch their heads explode.
I've been saying that since the mere whispers of MANDATORY vaccination started circulating through the halls...
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Fuck him & fuck Fauci!
Yup. Right up the ass. If he (Mr. Biden...I don't call him 'President' for a reason) gets "his" way (we ALL know he is told what to say and think), he will be solely responsible for tanking my airline career.



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