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Like bigdeal said, positive test results mean nothing. Hell, if it were possible for everyone in the country to be tested today, there may be 150 million Americans test positive out of 330 million total population. Almost everyone on the planet is eventually going to get the Chinese Virus if they haven’t already had it.


Undercounting the number of infected individuals is inevitable without testing absolutely everyone, but there's an increasing body of evidence that it is unlikely we are undercounting to anywhere near the degree you suggest.
Bologna. There is no real data to prove anything substantial or irrefutable at this point. My conjecture is no better or worse than your conjecture I'm incorrect in suggesting what he did.
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A small town in Italy (~3,300 people) had repeated rounds of testing every single person in the town. Active cases peaked at about 3% without about half of those asymptomatic. ( https://www.ft.com/content/0db...ea-800d-da70cff6e4d3 )

Iceland (~360,000 people) has been letting anyone who wants a test get one. At the end of last week, about 5% of the population had been tested, again, with about half being asymptomatic. ( https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01...irus-intl/index.html ) As of April 5, Iceland had performed ~28,000 tests ( ~8% of the population ) with 1,417 positives (~0.4% of the population). ( https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus )
Can we please stop using these virtually irrelevant examples from overseas to try and explain what's occurring here. We have zero control over the integrity/accuracy of the data, and the cultures and populations are dynamically different than that found in this country. Until enough time has gone by for us to collect and compile accurate data in this country, we're going to have to operate on conjecture driven from common sense.


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You said "positive test results mean nothing."
That's only true if we might be under-testing by orders of magnitude.

The only thing a positive test tells us is that a particular person has the virus. That is useful information in a number of ways:
1. Treatment, for that person.
2. Distancing and PPE for the people treating or around that person.
3. It tells us that the virus is in that area or location.
4. In the aggregate, we can tell where the "hot spots" are, with the virus circulating in significant concentration.



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Seriously? I wasn’t suggesting anything. Wow.

You said "positive test results mean nothing."
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Why do you waste your time replying to such a comment?



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This happened a couple miles down the road from where I'm typing. Stupid jackbooted thugs. Unfortunately these are the type of leo's that make up the norm in Colorado. The good cops are very few and far between in these parts.


This right here is the stuff that gives people a bad taste for government and law enforcement. I have spent my fair share of time behind a badge, as a Deputy, while I was in college and a little bit after. This would just not have even crossed our minds to cuff someone for this. If you can't diffuse a situation of a family playing in an empty park, then you need your badge taken away and handed a box of crayons. Because your abilities as a LEO are for shit. What makes it even worse is there were 3 chances for them to find some common sense ( 1 chance for each officer). I would bet good money that at least one of them said, "We are only following orders."

That type of thing disturbing to me as a retired LEO. These guys had no reason to even approach and ask for I.D. since he was not doing anything remotely illegal. I don't see that he was under any obligation to show them I.D. This dept. owes him a big apology and he should probably find an attorney and file suit (both dept. and individually) He has plenty of evidence since it was being recorded by a third party not involved.
 
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So now there is a theory that 5G cellphone towers are to blame and people are burning them in the UK and threatening to tear them down here???




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So now there is a theory that 5G cellphone towers are to blame and people are burning them in the UK and threatening to tear them down here???


People are stupid. A couple of celebrities have posted crap like that here too. I'm no fan of 5g, but that has nothing to do with a virus.



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NSFW (but who is at work?)





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The media in this country has been carrying Communist water since at least the 1930’s. The New York Times especially. They’re the main reason a lot of Americans went to Soviet Russia during the Great Depression to find work, believing the utopian stories they were reading in the papers. A lot of them never made it back home to the US.


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[T]he main reason a lot of Americans went to Soviet Russia during the Great Depression to find work, believing the utopian stories they were reading in the papers. A lot of them never made it back home to the US.


An excellent book about that little-known aspect of history: The Forsaken.




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^^^ Yep. I’ve got it.


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These are great guys.. Big Grin. Stay the F @ home!
 
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So now there is a theory that 5G cellphone towers are to blame and people are burning them in the UK and threatening to tear them down here???
Well, it certainly doesn't help matters that the next generation after 5G was going to be called 666G.
 
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the next generation after 5G was going to be called 666G.


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[T]he main reason a lot of Americans went to Soviet Russia during the Great Depression to find work, believing the utopian stories they were reading in the papers. A lot of them never made it back home to the US.


An excellent book about that little-known aspect of history: The Forsaken.


Thanks! Reading it now.





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OK we are officially in a science fiction movie.

NYC using drones to tell people to social distance.






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98, 91, 83, 71 year olds added to the body count today in Oregon, for a grand total of 34.

Governor says lockdown will remain in place until there's no deaths for two weeks. Unfuckingbelievable!

https://www.oregonlive.com/#/0
 
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We just found out my wife's cousin's son died this morning from the virus. Mid-30's and just had a son. San Diego area.



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