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Harvard to Implement Online Learning for All Students, Tuition Remains $50,000

Harvard University has announced it will implement online learning for all courses during the coming academic year, while tuition for the Ivy League school will remain about $50,000.

Up to 40 percent of undergraduate students will be cleared to live on campus this fall, including all incoming freshmen, according to a statement posted Monday on Harvard’s website. All Harvard seniors will be allowed to return to campus in the spring semester, with freshmen returning home. However, even those students who choose to live on campus will be required to take part in online instruction.

“We have sought a path to bringing all students back as soon as conditions allow, while continuing their academic progress in the meantime and remaining a vibrant research community across our broad range of disciplines,” Harvard President Lawrence Bacow and two other deans wrote in a statement. “But we also recognize that, fundamentally, there is an intrinsic incompatibility between our highly interactive, residential Harvard College experience and the social distancing needed to mitigate COVID-19 transmission.”


Various universities have struggled to implement academic plans for 2020-2021 following the onset of the coronavirus pandemic. Harvard’s new rules bar visitors from student dormitories and even forbid students living in one dorm from visiting another.
 
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"the sky is falling...the sky is falling"....all these news headlines and updates are only designed to frighten and tighten control on us. The death rates are actually falling, as been pointed out before but that is not being reported.
For all the hysteria over the infection in Texas, Florida, etc....guess who's mortality rate leads the country? New Jersey with over 1700 + per 1 million people and New York with 1600 + per 1miilion people. But all we hear about them is how well they are doing. I seem to recall Florida's death rates was around 172 per 1 million people and I forget what Texas is but its still way lower than either NY or NJ

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If the GDC had their candidate in the White House, there would have been no shut down of the economy.


I keep reading similar opinions, but I have never seen an answer to my basic question:
How did the GDCs in this country cause the shutdowns in the rest of the world? As I recall, the Chinese even started their draconian measures before we did. I am willing to believe that the Democrats would do anything to advance their agendas, but are they that powerful?


China shut down and quarantined Wuhan and most of Hubei province to contain this bug, based on a pre-established pandemic containment plan created after SARS. Once this thing looked like it was "SARS the Revenge" they activated the plan. Yes their public healthcare system got overrun by mostly old people that had lived for decades breathing nasty air pollution. But there are two variables there - the rate of infections needing hospitalization, and the "quality" of the health care system.

The "shut it down, shut it down now" reaction is also consistent with the CCP's realization that this bug escaped form the viral research lab after undergoing gain of function tests. It was imperative that they declare a pandemic, shut everything down, and stop anyone from outside China who is not "sympathetic" to the CCP from coming in and taking samples, tracing the outbreak, and doing anything else that might counter the "wet market" narrative. If it really was a wet market, then wet markets should have been shut down across the country, but now we have an outbreak in Beijing from, guess what, another even bigger wet market! What a coincidence. Wet markets were the source of every major virus coming out of China in the past two decades but they are still in operation.

Italy overran their public health system too. Again, that is a function of the hospitalization rate and the quality of the public health system.

Someone I know in China posted the other day that a woman shopping at a mall in Dalian (NE coast near Korea) who had been in contact with infected people from Beijing and twice tested negative, was contacted by phone and told she now tested positive. Two hundred people in the mall that had been near this woman were then lined up, processed, tested, and sent for 14 day quarantine. This is not consistent with the case severity rates and death rates we are seeing in the US. I presume this is still based on protocols develop based on the original SARS, or that China is going full-authoritarian to simple prove to the world that their methods are "better", and to keep the population under strict controls so they are thankful when things are finally over instead of going after the CCP for creating the mess in the first place.

As for the airborne transmission - any statement signed by hundred's of UN or WHO "scientists" or "experts" is entirely suspect until the list of names and their qualifications are published (and still suspect afterwards, only a little less so). Will we find that most of the "scientists" were people with PhD's in something entirely unrelated to virology or medicine, just like all the "social scientists" that signed the IPCC "consensus"?
 
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If the GDC had their candidate in the White House, there would have been no shut down of the economy. The media would have downplayed the entire outbreak and spun it into a positive for their side. We went through this with Swine Flu when (thanks Para) the Krimson Kenyan was in office.
My friend...I've been saying that, HARPING on it since day 1 of this bullshit and was promptly shouted down by the panicers of this board. I went to Kroger today. Ask me if I wore a fucking mask...

Oh...and I have YET to get an answer to the question you're asking, which is, "Why wasn't the country shut down and the economy DESTROYED when 60,800,000 cases of Swine Flu ripped through this country like a Hitler blitzkrieg on Poland?" "We" won't get that answer...EVER.



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News said 341% increase in hospitalizations in Dallas area compared to 30 days ago.






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Probably don't need a separate thread yet;

China bubonic plague: Inner Mongolia takes precautions after case

Can't we just go back to the Murder Hornets?
The solution to all these viruses...Nuke China from space. It's the only way to be sure.


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News said 341% increase in hospitalizations in Dallas area compared to 30 days ago.
They happen to quantify how much of that 341% were patients getting procedures that had previously been cancelled? The media always seems to fail to do any real homework before reporting such numbers.


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Posts: 33845 | Location: Orlando, FL | Registered: April 30, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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If the GDC had their candidate in the White House, there would have been no shut down of the economy.


I keep reading similar opinions, but I have never seen an answer to my basic question:
How did the GDCs in this country cause the shutdowns in the rest of the world? As I recall, the Chinese even started their draconian measures before we did. I am willing to believe that the Democrats would do anything to advance their agendas, but are they that powerful?
I wouldn't even venture to speculate as to the motivations of the Chinese, beyond lying and using any means, at any human cost, to protect party interests. We'll probably never know the true epidemiological numbers from China, as everything they release is propaganda. Other countries, like Sweden and Denmark have instead chosen to not do lockdowns at all.

From an American perspective, the state and local shutdowns of economic activity were an unprecedented legal and cultural paradigm shift. And small businesses and sole proprietors are bearing the brunt of the losses. When all is said and done, many will not be able to recover from the losses being suffered.

The media hysterically promoted shutdowns, except for politically convenient BLM gatherings. But the shutdowns, especially here in FL, didn't result in any discernable protection of the vulnerable. The only thing that has happened is that the wider community spread of the virus was delayed by a few months. At what cost?

Outside of the media hype, new studies are emerging on the lethality of COVID-19 with domestic medical care and treatment. A .04 percent infection fatality rate for under 70 patients is not what the media has portrayed. June study into Covid Lethality

The end result has been that the GDC are taking full advantage of the crisis to try to impose their will on the American people. Make no mistake, if they win in November, COVID-19 will be the least of our worries.

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Biden Backer and Potential VP Pick Is Now Positive for Coronavirus

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...r-coronavir-n2571979

Atlanta, Georgia Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms (D) on Monday announced she has tested positive for the Wuhan coronavirus despite having no symptoms.
 
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Something else to think about:

In China many elderly people live with their children in small apartments (parents help raise the kids). Retirement is mandatory at 60 for men and 55 for women, and gov't pensions are like $250 a month. It's not like here where seniors live alone or live in assisted living places. I'm not sure about Italy, but but my great grandparents immigrated from Italy to NYC in the early 1900's and they lived in a multi generational house with my grandparents (and other family members) until they died.

So at least in China it is difficult to isolate older people and they are going to be in close contact with people who could be carriers without being significantly sick.

Here, we can isolate seniors for their safety, as long as the government doesn't force nursing homes to take back COVID patients that aren't sick enough to need hospitalization as Cuomo disastrously did in NY.

The entire world looked at what the CCP did in Wuhan and how it supposedly "worked" with reported infections dropping to nothing, so the far left GDC's in every country pushed to do as China did. Of course, we know their numbers can't be trusted in the least and we really have no idea what is actually happening there.

Nothing like heavy handed single party totalitarian control to "get things done", which is EXACTLY what they want here.
 
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I have an earnest question re: masks, so please leave the "it's bullshit" out of it, since I've already come to that conclusion. That's not what this question is:

What is the actual rationale being provided by the "masks now" crowd (Fauci, the media, et al.)? Like the actual scientific rationale.

We know that most masks, let alone "face coverings" are categorically incapable of stopping the virus from getting to you because they're too porous--to say nothing of the absolute lack of PPE best practices followed by just about everyone you see with one on.

So if it's undeniable that the masks are ineffective for the purpose, what reason is actually being given for us to wear masks?

Again, please don't give some BS answer. I don't have time to listen to hundreds of hours of press conferences, etc. They have to be giving some rationale to support a practice that is contrary to the device's function. What is it?


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To reduce the probability of you spreading it if you've got it. No bullshit.
 
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...what reason is actually being given for us to wear masks?
But, that's just it, you see. Almost no one is questioning this. The answer is presumed to be obvious, so, no questions are asked and therefore no reasons need to be given.
 
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I have an earnest question re: masks, so please leave the "it's bullshit" out of it, since I've already come to that conclusion. That's not what this question is:

What is the actual rationale being provided by the "masks now" crowd (Fauci, the media, et al.)? Like the actual scientific rationale.

We know that most masks, let alone "face coverings" are categorically incapable of stopping the virus from getting to you because they're too porous--to say nothing of the absolute lack of PPE best practices followed by just about everyone you see with one on.

So if it's undeniable that the masks are ineffective for the purpose, what reason is actually being given for us to wear masks?

Again, please don't give some BS answer. I don't have time to listen to hundreds of hours of press conferences, etc. They have to be giving some rationale to support a practice that is contrary to the device's function. What is it?



To scare the hell out of people. That's the reason.

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...what reason is actually being given for us to wear masks?
But, that's just it, you see. Almost no one is questioning this. The answer is presumed to be obvious, so, no questions are asked and therefore no reasons need to be given.

FWIW, the reason I know that is because one of the more active people in the state GOP is a doctor. They live streamed a meeting on holding the state convention in person rather than online (vote 2:1 for), and he was asked to patch in to explain what was known about any risks. He concluded by strongly recommending that everyone going to the convention wear masks and that the committee vote to hold the convention in person.

At any rate, Oat_Action_Man is not entirely alone.
 
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Again, please don't give some BS answer. I don't have time to listen to hundreds of hours of press conferences, etc. They have to be giving some rationale to support a practice that is contrary to the device's function. What is it?
I believe you're answering your own question. I don't think ANYONE has given a true, bona fide, medical reason WHY it's necessary to wear a mask, face covering, PPE, etc. Your analysis and observations are spot on...the VAST majority of those wearing masks aren't even close to practicing proper protocol while wearing it. Case in point...I was in Kroger a couple of weeks ago and saw a dude wearing a mask, his phone rang, and guess what he did? Pulled his mask off to talk on the phone. So "scientific rationale"?? To my knowledge, none has been given.

No one...and I literally mean NO ONE said ANYTHING about wearing a face mask when Swine Flu ripped through this country in '09/'10. So what would be the rationale now, other than to instill fear in and control the minds of the weak? And I know you didn't want any answers to go down that rabbit hole, but those are my unapologetic observations of having been in a HIGHLY contagious arena with Swine Flu and not one damned thing happened.

I believe in my heart of hearts, ALL this has been politically driven by "Orange Man Bad". Unfortunately there are too many sheep in our populace that are not able to understand and grasp that simple concept. People are suffering WORSE from Trump Derangement Syndrome than COVID-19.



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We are viewing events that are placing Texas as a toss up state this November.
 
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Oh, wait, dire political predictions? Please, do tell us more. I can't get enough of that shit.
 
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We are viewing events that are placing Texas as a toss up state this November.

Karl Rove, is that you?


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