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Where is that dang spike??? Why can't we figure this out??



This policy has been extended to all 'contact tracers', not just in NYC.

Where is that dang spike???? It's gotta be from Karen not wearing her mask while driving alone in her car!!



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Why you didn't take this opportunity to post an image of the women's Brazilian volleyball team I'll never know.


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this has all been a cruel test to see how long the sheep will willingly follow their master.
 
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Probably because, if I'm not mistaken, Para doesn't care for T and A on his forum?
 
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Probably because, if I'm not mistaken, Para doesn't care for T and A on his forum?


That's right. Besides the guy in the black shirt spiking the ball went onto the win gold for America in the 1996 Olympics. Not anywhere near as consequential as the Golden Spike Para posted, but it was a spike for gold.
 
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A new study suggests Hydroxychloroquine helps. https://www.yahoo.com/news/hyd...cover-162127157.html



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I have fully acknowledge that I am in the straddle-the-fence-camp of concerned about what we don’t know, coupled with recognizing the insanity that we’re seeing in some places. This message we just got from a restaurant in Jackson is an example of the latter.

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We are sure you've heard the news that the City of Jackson has a face mask mandate, for all public spaces in the City of Jackson.
You're probably wondering how does this affect you, when dining with us...

It is very simple, when walking in please have a mask on, once you are seated at your table, you can remove your mask. If for any reason you have to leave your table, please use your face mask. Wear it in, wear it out. It’s easy and effective for all.

We know that you place your trust in us to ALWAYS Do the Right Thing... and serving you in today’s climate is the epitome of the time for us to shine. That is why we created the "I BRING and I TAKE" shirts for all our service staff at each restaurant. The staff members who wait on you and give you things (the BRING shirts) , they will never touch something a guest has touched or used. They will only bring you new items (food, drink, silverware, etc).

The staff in the TAKE shirts are the ones who remove all your used items be it something as small as a plastic straw wrapper all the way to your final dessert plate and coffee cup. They will NEVER hand you anything ... they are only taking things away. By separating our service style, we are eliminating the potential for any cross-contamination.

This, coupled with our rigorous safety and sanitation protocols (far too many to list here!) work in tandem to ensure BRAVO!, Broad Street and Sal & Mookie’s are safe, wholesome places where you can enjoy time out with your loved ones.
And speaking of that, please don’t ask us to seat you more than 6 to a table... we will not. Our state guidelines clearly set the maximum at one table at 6 individuals... and six feet between tables. We will gladly seat you at side by side tables, but we will maintain your separation).

We understand that all of this can be a but overwhelming, but everything we do is to help protect you, and of course, our staff.

If you have questions, please reach out and ask. Nothing has changed in our core mission— we are here to serve you. We sincerely thank you for your help, as we navigate these uncharted waters.

Forward, together.
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this has all been a cruel test to see how long the sheep will willingly follow their master.
And not unsurprisingly, they're still falling in line to follow whatever they're told. Someone posted it somewhere in this thread, but to restate it again, if this country ever does face a 'real' crisis in the future, we're done.


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They look way to thrilled talking about the next virus.
“That will get attention, this time.”

Can someone please interpret what he is saying for me?
Because it sure sounds like he has involvement in releasing another virus to me.
But maybe it’s just the way I am interpreting what he is saying.




“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
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Can someone please interpret what he is saying for me?
Because it sure sounds like he has involvement in releasing another virus to me.
I don't know about that, but I guarantee he'll have a way of making money off almost anything that comes down the pike. Razz


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Didn't gates invest a few million into the wuhan lab with falsi?
 
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most people have forgotten about this little event...

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr...parate-china-related


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Tuesday, January 28, 2020
Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases

The Department of Justice announced today that the Chair of Harvard University’s Chemistry and Chemical Biology Department and two Chinese nationals have been charged in connection with aiding the People’s Republic of China.

Dr. Charles Lieber, 60, Chair of the Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Harvard University, was arrested this morning and charged by criminal complaint with one count of making a materially false, fictitious and fraudulent statement. Lieber will appear this afternoon before Magistrate Judge Marianne B. Bowler in federal court in Boston, Massachusetts.

Yanqing Ye, 29, a Chinese national, was charged in an indictment today with one count each of visa fraud, making false statements, acting as an agent of a foreign government and conspiracy. Ye is currently in China.

Zaosong Zheng, 30, a Chinese national, was arrested on Dec. 10, 2019, at Boston’s Logan International Airport and charged by criminal complaint with attempting to smuggle 21 vials of biological research to China. On Jan. 21, 2020, Zheng was indicted on one count of smuggling goods from the United States and one count of making false, fictitious or fraudulent statements. He has been detained since Dec. 30, 2019.

Dr. Charles Lieber

According to court documents, since 2008, Dr. Lieber who has served as the Principal Investigator of the Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, which specialized in the area of nanoscience, has received more than $15,000,000 in grant funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Department of Defense (DOD). These grants require the disclosure of significant foreign financial conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or foreign entities. Unbeknownst to Harvard University beginning in 2011, Lieber became a “Strategic Scientist” at Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) in China and was a contractual participant in China’s Thousand Talents Plan from in or about 2012 to 2017. China’s Thousand Talents Plan is one of the most prominent Chinese Talent recruit plans that are designed to attract, recruit, and cultivate high-level scientific talent in furtherance of China’s scientific development, economic prosperity and national security. These talent programs seek to lure Chinese overseas talent and foreign experts to bring their knowledge and experience to China and reward individuals for stealing proprietary information. Under the terms of Lieber’s three-year Thousand Talents contract, WUT paid Lieber $50,000 USD per month, living expenses of up to 1,000,000 Chinese Yuan (approximately $158,000 USD at the time) and awarded him more than $1.5 million to establish a research lab at WUT. In return, Lieber was obligated to work for WUT “not less than nine months a year” by “declaring international cooperation projects, cultivating young teachers and Ph.D. students, organizing international conference[s], applying for patents and publishing articles in the name of” WUT.

The complaint alleges that in 2018 and 2019, Lieber lied about his involvement in the Thousand Talents Plan and affiliation with WUT. On or about, April 24, 2018, during an interview with investigators, Lieber stated that he was never asked to participate in the Thousand Talents Program, but he “wasn’t sure” how China categorized him. In November 2018, NIH inquired of Harvard whether Lieber had failed to disclose his then-suspected relationship with WUT and China’s Thousand Talents Plan. Lieber caused Harvard to falsely tell NIH that Lieber “had no formal association with WUT” after 2012, that “WUT continued to falsely exaggerate” his involvement with WUT in subsequent years, and that Lieber “is not and has never been a participant in” China’s Thousand Talents Plan.

Yanqing Ye

According to the indictment, Ye is a Lieutenant of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), the armed forces of the People’s Republic of China and member of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). On her J-1 visa application, Ye falsely identified herself as a “student” and lied about her ongoing military service at the National University of Defense Technology (NUDT), a top military academy directed by the CCP. It is further alleged that while studying at Boston University’s (BU) Department of Physics, Chemistry and Biomedical Engineering from October 2017 to April 2019, Ye continued to work as a PLA Lieutenant completing numerous assignments from PLA officers such as conducting research, assessing U.S. military websites and sending U.S. documents and information to China.

According to court documents, on April 20, 2019, federal officers interviewed Ye at Boston’s Logan International Airport. During the interview, it is alleged that Ye falsely claimed that she had minimal contact with two NUDT professors who were high-ranking PLA officers. However, a search of Ye’s electronic devices demonstrated that at the direction of one NUDT professor, who was a PLA Colonel, Ye had accessed U.S. military websites, researched U.S. military projects and compiled information for the PLA on two U.S. scientists with expertise in robotics and computer science. Furthermore, a review of a WeChat conversation revealed that Ye and the other PLA official from NUDT were collaborating on a research paper about a risk assessment model designed to decipher data for military applications. During the interview, Ye admitted that she held the rank of Lieutenant in the PLA and admitted she was a member of the CCP.

Zaosong Zheng

In August 2018, Zheng entered the United States on a J-1 visa and conducted cancer-cell research at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston from Sept. 4, 2018, to Dec. 9, 2019. It is alleged that on Dec. 9, 2019, Zheng stole 21 vials of biological research and attempted to smuggle them out of the United States aboard a flight destined for China. Federal officers at Logan Airport discovered the vials hidden in a sock inside one of Zheng’s bags, and not properly packaged. It is alleged that initially, Zheng lied to officers about the contents of his luggage, but later admitted he had stolen the vials from a lab at Beth Israel. Zheng stated that he intended to bring the vials to China to use them to conduct research in his own laboratory and publish the results under his own name.

The charge of making false, fictitious and fraudulent statements provides for a sentence of up to five years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of visa fraud provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of acting as an agent of a foreign government provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of conspiracy provides for a sentence of up to five years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of smuggling goods from the United States provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. Sentences are imposed by a federal district court judge based upon the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors.

Assistant Attorney General for National Security John C. Demers, United States Attorney Andrew E. Lelling; Special Agent in Charge of the FBI Boston Field Division Joseph R. Bonavolonta; Michael Denning, Director of Field Operations, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Boston Field Office; Leigh-Alistair Barzey, Special Agent in Charge of the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, Northeast Field Office; Philip Coyne, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Inspector General; and William Higgins, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Department of Commerce, Office of Export Enforcement, Boston Field Office made the announcement. Assistant U.S. Attorneys B. Stephanie Siegmann, Jason Casey and Benjamin Tolkoff of Lelling’s National Security Unit are prosecuting these cases with the assistance of trial attorneys William Mackie and David Aaron at the National Security Division’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section.

The details contained in the charging documents are allegations. The defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.

These case are part of the Department of Justice’s China Initiative, which reflects the strategic priority of countering Chinese national security threats and reinforces the President’s overall national security strategy. In addition to identifying and prosecuting those engaged in trade secret theft, hacking and economic espionage, the initiative will increase efforts to protect our critical infrastructure against external threats including foreign direct investment, supply chain threats and the foreign agents seeking to influence the American public and policymakers without proper registration.

Press release 20-99
 
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I think most reasonable people believe the virus came out of a chinese lab. I'm not sure many believe that it was bio-engineered though.


I have read multiple reports that is the truth. They were bio-engineering the thing in this lab, testing it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...nstitute_of_Virology


We can do a heck of a lot better than Wikipedia now.


I listed the wiki link because it describes the lab, that it is a level 4 lab, etc, and nothing more. There is a list of all level 4 labs, here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level
Yes it’s wiki, but good information. I learned the only privately owned level 4 lab is in San Antonio. It’s good to know where these things are, and we have a number of them here.

It’s up to all of us to google, and read. I’ve read countless articles on the subject over the past 4 months. I haven’t and will not post link after link when I read them. The link you posted, there are many of them. Virology experts do think it was jacked with by humans. From what I have read, they were purposely fucking with this thing in the Wuhan Virology Lab. Either someone working there didn’t decontaminate themselves properly or it was intentional. It’s been interesting reading for months on this. Level 4 lab in Wuhan, where the virus originated. The bullshit media was telling us all that it came from a open air market, bats, pigs, blah blah. Chicom feeding bullshit after bullshit trying to CYA. Animals in cages on top of other species, and blammo the virus originates and spreads. Nah, I’m going to go with the L4 lab where everyone knows research on this thing was occurring. It got out of their lab and the whole world is infected. Fucking nuke it from orbit.

We need to pull all of our manufacturing out of the place and bring it back home. The other countries need to do the same. Then the whole damn place will be insignificant. Manufacturing gets pulled, and people will cease to fly in/out of the place because there would be no reason to.



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And it has what to do with the Wuhan Flu?

Prefontaine, my Google-fu is weak. I can't find a those articles.
 
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We understand that all of this can be a but overwhelming, but everything we do is to help protect you, and of course, our staff.

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Forward, together.
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Reminds me of the rules they had in elementary school. Just what I was looking for in a relaxing dining experience. Having been to Jackson,Ms on more than one occasion they are lacking in the culinary arts. I would rather dine with snacks from the convenience store. On second thought if they were wearing DR. Seuss outfits I might have an appetizer just for the experience.
 
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A real (not FB) friend of mind posted this:

"I've had asthma ever since I was young. It's mostly under control, but it's irritated by heat, sawdust, mowing, etc. I use an over-the-counter bronchodilator sometimes. I asked Dawn to pick me up some at the pharmacy today. She did, and the pharmacy tech pulled out a notebook and recorded the sale. She wrote "COVID" as the reason for the sale. Dawn told her that I don't have COVID, I have asthma. She said that they are required by the government to attribute all such sales to COVID."
 
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triggertreat posted a link to the new Hydroxychloroquine study

Here is the actual study published in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases

https://www.ijidonline.com/art...(20)30534-8/fulltext

2,541 patients in the study

Compared several diff combinations of treatment:

hydroxychloroquine alone 13.5 % deaths,
hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin 20.1 % deaths ,
azithromycin alone 22.4 % deaths,
neither drug 26.4% deaths

Treatments were protocol driven, uniform in all hospitals and established by a system-wide interdisciplinary COVID-19 Task Force

Hydroxychloroquine was dosed as 400 mg twice daily for 2 doses on day 1, followed by 200 mg twice daily on days 2-5.

Azithromycin was dosed as 500 mg once daily on day 1 followed by 250 mg once daily for the next 4 days.

hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin was reserved for selected patients with severe COVID-19 and with minimal cardiac risk factors. An electrocardiogram (ECK) based algorithm was utilized for hydroxychloroquine use.

more at link
 
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