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Imagine wearing this mask all day...in the summer. Almost Hannibal Lecter(ish)...

https://www.designboom.com/des...-hearing-04-08-2020/
The only thing missing is a large hole, cut around the mouth area, so she can eat.



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Did he post any evidence with his tweet?


seriously, are you joking ?

did you do the slightest Google search ?
 
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Did he post any evidence with his tweet?



Can't help but notice the lack of evidence contrary to his assertion in your post. Wink

Not much different than how the fake news works. Let me give it a go:

Surefire, without evidence, accuses Trump family members of not having evidence.


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https://www.breitbart.com/fait...lasios-locked-parks/

Orthodox Jews used bolt cutters Monday to cut through gates that had been welded shut by New York City authorities earlier in the day to prevent children in Jewish neighborhoods from playing, ostensibly because of fears of coronavirus.

Mayor Bill de Blasio has continued cracking down on religious observance, and on religious Jews in particular — while supporting large, crowded Black Lives Matter and transgender demonstrations in the city over the past several weeks.

The community has been eager to use the parks again, but the city has removed children from them. As Breitbart News reported earlier Monday, the city actually welded shut the gates to prevent families from gaining access to the parks.

As @NYCMayor marches with protesters and orders Contact Tracers not to ask people if they were at protests, the City is welding shut a park that is largely used by Hasidim in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.
 
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And Jr isn't manipulative?
Did he post any evidence with his tweet?
"Jr"? Surefire, you mind your manners. You are talking about the son of the greatest president this nation has had in thirty years and one of the greatest ever. You don't vote in our elections and you aren't influenced by our policies nor are you subject to the mountain of bullshit Americans who love their country are putting up with right now. Don't let me see this kind of comment from you ever again. Don't you ever say the first word against our president or his family.

Do you understand me? Do you need any of this explained to you?

Donald Trump is the only person keeping this nation's head above the water right now, and when you insult him or his family in this forum, I take it personally and I know I am far from the only one, and you had better fucking remember that.

You need "evidence"? Then, use a Goddamned search engine and do it yourself. You can read.
 
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Selective Social-Distancing Rules Are One of the Great Scams in American Life
By RICH LOWRY
June 16, 2020 6:30 AM

Massive crowds are wonderful and healthful, if they’re woke. Otherwise, they’re life-threatening.
Earlier this week, Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot had big news: The city is opening up its iconic Lakefront Trail after months of being closed off as part of a COVID-19 lockdown.

That Lightfoot kept the trail closed even after Chicago had experienced large-scale Black Lives Matter marches — thousands just last weekend during the “Drag March for Change” — is one small instance of the flagrant social-distancing hypocrisy across the country in recent weeks.

If it’s okay for throngs of people to pack the streets and shout and chant to protest the death of George Floyd, it ought to be permissible for someone to ride a bike along the lakeside while keeping to him- or herself. In fact, one involves sustained interaction with other people, and perhaps fights with the police, while the other is a solitary activity, or one undertaken with a friend or a spouse.

Yet, Mayor Lightfoot welcomed the protestors — “We want people to come and express their passion,” she said — and still kept the trail shuttered.

Many of the same officials who were most zealous in locking down their states and cities instantly made an exception for Black Lives Matter protests. Their rigidity became laxity in a blink of an eye. Their metric for reopening wasn’t the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines or any other public-health measure but the “wokeness” of the activity in question.

Visiting the deathbed of a loved one with COVID-19? Absolutely not. Having a proper funeral? No way. Gathering more than about ten people at a graveside? No one should be allowed to put the public at risk in such a way.

Bringing thousands of strangers to march together for hours in spontaneous, disorderly groups? Thank you for your commitment to positive change.

Attending a church service? Well, maybe in a couple of months.

Holding a struggle session with religious trappings where people confess their racism and vow to work to defund the police? Please, let’s have more.

The wholly unserious Governor Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan professed to be deeply disturbed by a protest against her arbitrary lockdown rules, even though it largely consisted of people driving around the state capitol in their cars. She spun nightmare scenarios of a spike in COVID-19. That didn’t stop her earlier in the month from joining a march against police brutality with hundreds of non–socially distanced people, explaining that it was “an important moment” to show her “support.”

Virtue-signaling is now an essential activity in Michigan.

To believe the leaders of Blue America, SARS-CoV-2 is the first virus in human history to have a social conscience — virulent enough in the ordinary course of events to justify the most restrictive social controls, but not such a big deal if it might get in the way of marches for social justice.

The likes of Mayor Bill de Blasio have justified the different standards by arguing that fighting racism is important. Well, so is mourning your dead, keeping your business from being ground to dust, and worshiping your God. It’s a sign of a ludicrously blinkered worldview to believe that a protest march deserves more consideration than these other elemental human needs.

Another argument is that the protesters are willing to put their health on the line for their cause, a sign of their deepfelt devotion to their cause. But, until recently, it was said that people going outside weren’t just endangering themselves but the most vulnerable residents in our communities. Why wouldn’t that be true of the Black Lives Matter marches, too?

Don’t expect consistency, or even a serious attempt at it. More than 1,000 public-health experts signed a letter calling the protests “vital to the national public health,” thus immolating their credibility on a pyre of motivated reasoning. It’s social distancing for people and activities they find uncongenial, and different rules for their ideological allies.

What a contemptible betrayal of the public trust.

https://www.nationalreview.com...stancing-rules-scam/



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Posts: 8281 | Location: in the red zone of the blue state, CT | Registered: October 15, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Here in MQT we have what I considered to be one of the finest small town libraries in the US:
Peter White Public Library. They locked the doors when the crud broke out.
Today I received a flyer from them. Three full pages of a "phased reopening" plan. The tedious and pointless details rocketed to full on stupidity when they described their curb side service. Which requires you to wear a mask when you are approached by the employee bringing your book to you.
When you are sitting in your car.
And.... Wait for it.... They made a plea for donations. They have been fully shut down for months but still need money!
Opportunity from chaos, indeed.


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US businesses (and others) pulling out of China

Thank goodness, the only positive coming out of this COVID mess.



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Pulling out in preparation for the money shot.

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FWIW, Chinese companies listed on US stock exchanges have been delisting and going private. Many are anticipated to (eventually) relist their stocks in Hong Kong.

http://www.yahoo.com/finance/n...arket-132736547.html

IOW, they'll stay for the amenities and opportunities for now by going private. The flip side is that no one's going to stick up or lobby for a Chinese buisness that they don't own shares in.
 
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Can't have it both ways. Well, duh. No IQ tests required to write for the Times...


The New York Times Recoils at the Predictable Consequences of the Mandatory COVID-19 Precautions It Supports When mask-wearing and social distancing rules are legally enforceable, the potential for violence cannot be avoided.

"Of the 125 people arrested over offenses that law enforcement officials described as related to the coronavirus pandemic, 113 were black or Hispanic. Of the 374 summonses from March 16 to May 5, a vast majority—300—were given to black and Hispanic New Yorkers."

So begins a New York Times editorial that recoils at the predictable consequences of a policy that The New York Times supports. When the government orders people, under the threat of hefty fines, to stop working, stay home except for approved purposes, wear face masks in public, avoid "non-essential gatherings of individuals of any size for any reason," and keep their distance from each other, it charges police with enforcing those edicts. The resulting encounters may lead to criminal charges such as disorderly conduct, unlawful assembly, and obstructing governmental administration. Given the long record of racially skewed law enforcement by the New York Police Department (NYPD), it is not at all surprising that the people who bear the brunt of mandatory social distancing are overwhelmingly black and Latino.

The Times does not like that result:

Videos of some of the arrests are hard to watch. In one posted to Facebook last week, a group of some six police officers are seen tackling a black woman in a subway station as her young child looks on. "She's got a baby with her!" a bystander shouts. Police officials told The Daily News the woman had refused to comply when officers directed her to put the mask she was wearing over her nose and mouth.

Contrast that with photographs across social media showing crowds of sun-seekers packed into parks in wealthy, whiter areas of the city, lounging undisturbed as police officers hand out masks….

Without a significant course correction, the [police] department's role in the pandemic may look more and more like stop-and-frisk, the policing tactic that led to the harassment of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, most of them black and Hispanic, while rarely touching white New Yorkers. [Mayor Bill] de Blasio has scoffed at the comparison, though it's not clear why.

The "course correction" suggested by the Times—a "public health corps" consisting of "specially trained civilians" who would "fan out across the neighborhoods and parks, helping with pedestrian traffic control and politely encouraging New Yorkers entering parks to protect one another by wearing masks and keeping their distance"—presents problems of its own. While those specially trained civilians presumably would be less likely than police officers to tackle, beat, and tase people for perceived violations of COVID-19 precautions, the potential for violence would still exist.

What would a member of this public health corps do if a parkgoer says he intends to keep his distance from other people but is not willing to wear a mask, since he (correctly) views the risk of virus transmission in an uncrowded, open-air environment as negligible? (Fun fact: In New York, a masked person who "congregates" in a public place with "other persons so masked" is guilty of loitering, a violation punishable by up to 15 days in jail.)

The Times says "the Police Department would play only a minimal role in this approach." But if cops serve as a backstop in responding to recalcitrant pedestrians, we are back to a situation in which social distancing rules are enforced by blatantly violating them through the physical contact and close proximity required to arrest, book, and jail people (which puts them in an environment where the risk of catching COVID-19 is especially high).

We also have to allow for the possibility that disputes between social distancing encouragers (who may not be as polite as they are supposed to be) and uncooperative targets (some of whom will be indignant and perhaps belligerent) will escalate into physical altercations. That danger is by no means theoretical.

The Times cannot have it both ways. If COVID-19 precautions are mandatory, they must at some point be legally enforced, with all the risks that entails, including violence and racial discrimination. The public health payoff might justify those risks in certain contexts—if a dense crowd happens to gather in Central Park, for instance, or if subway riders refuse to wear masks (although that was the situation in the video that the Times cites as evidence of overkill). But the risks cannot be eliminated if voluntary compliance is less than perfect, as it always will be.

Police officers charged with enforcing mask-wearing and social distancing requirements have to constantly weigh the costs of forcible intervention against the likely benefits. As the Times notes, it is not a task they welcome. "This situation is untenable," says Patrick Lynch, president of the New York City Police Benevolent Association. "The NYPD needs to get cops out of the social distancing enforcement business altogether."

But that effectively means mandates will become recommendations. And while most people probably will follow those recommendations, out of concern for their own welfare if not out of consideration for others, some won't. The Times can't will away that tradeoff by pretending it does not exist.

https://reason.com/2020/05/20/...m_source=parsely-api



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I have no idea why a cop would respond to a bs call in the city today. No sense in getting the town burned down or fired over a mask.


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Wow...Gov. DeSantis said 260 workers at MCO have tested positive out of 500 workers tested. Hope no one on here has flown through there recently.

https://www.clickorlando.com/n...nd&utm_content=wkmg6
 
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Wow...Gov. DeSantis said 260 workers at MCO have tested positive out of 500 workers tested. Hope no one on here has flown through there recently.

https://www.clickorlando.com/n...nd&utm_content=wkmg6


This from the article:

"However, it turns out those positive cases were not all airport employees and the cases were from a period of several months, according to the Orlando International Airport.

Orlando airport executives clarified the numbers Wednesday, clarifying not all 260 people are workers nor were they part of the group of 500 workers tested as referenced by the governor."

Minor details. .
 
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but wait, there's more...

huge increase in COVID cases in Arizona...

everyone's atwitter about that - major headlines...its the end of the world bullshit

well, how about the fact that they've ramped up testing by a huge percentage...would one not expect to have cases increase if testing increases?

whats important is not the number of cases, but if there is an acceleration of people dying...

its all just so much bullshit
 
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whats important is not the number of cases, but if there is an acceleration of people dying ...

Or more hospitalizations.

Naturally, more testing means more positives. But straight reporting of the facts won't maintain the panic.



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Uh oh. Eek

If this is to be believed, China is just now having a "second wave" hit and now it's hit Beijing pretty hard where you did not hear this during the January-May timeframe.

The US is about 2 months behind all that, so I really hope this doesn't also play out here in August or September. I don't think we can handle another drastic shutdown/lockdown like what happened from March-April nor will the American people accept it.


 
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More lies. Open your eyes.
 
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A frightening 2nd wave- The new coronavirus outbreak in Beijing grew to 106 cases Tuesday.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/c...g-second-wave-surge/

I can't find the number of deaths a day in China But I did see where 4400 people die each day from air pollution.

population of China 1,300,000,000
According to the data from the National Bureau of Statistics, the annual death toll in the country is about 8.9 million
Looks like about 24,000 people Die each day in China.

106 cases? Frightening I tell you?


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