US businesses (and others) pulling out of China

Thank goodness, the only positive coming out of this COVID mess.

Pulling out in preparation for the money shot.

[Andrew Dice Clay] OHH!!... OHH!! [/Andrew Dice Clay]

FWIW, Chinese companies listed on US stock exchanges have been delisting and going private. Many are anticipated to (eventually) relist their stocks in Hong Kong.

http://www.yahoo.com/finance/n...arket-132736547.html

IOW, they'll stay for the amenities and opportunities for now by going private. The flip side is that no one's going to stick up or lobby for a Chinese buisness that they don't own shares in.

Bye, Fericia

Can't have it both ways. Well, duh. No IQ tests required to write for the Times...


The New York Times Recoils at the Predictable Consequences of the Mandatory COVID-19 Precautions It Supports When mask-wearing and social distancing rules are legally enforceable, the potential for violence cannot be avoided.

"Of the 125 people arrested over offenses that law enforcement officials described as related to the coronavirus pandemic, 113 were black or Hispanic. Of the 374 summonses from March 16 to May 5, a vast majority—300—were given to black and Hispanic New Yorkers."

So begins a New York Times editorial that recoils at the predictable consequences of a policy that The New York Times supports. When the government orders people, under the threat of hefty fines, to stop working, stay home except for approved purposes, wear face masks in public, avoid "non-essential gatherings of individuals of any size for any reason," and keep their distance from each other, it charges police with enforcing those edicts. The resulting encounters may lead to criminal charges such as disorderly conduct, unlawful assembly, and obstructing governmental administration. Given the long record of racially skewed law enforcement by the New York Police Department (NYPD), it is not at all surprising that the people who bear the brunt of mandatory social distancing are overwhelmingly black and Latino.

The Times does not like that result:

Videos of some of the arrests are hard to watch. In one posted to Facebook last week, a group of some six police officers are seen tackling a black woman in a subway station as her young child looks on. "She's got a baby with her!" a bystander shouts. Police officials told The Daily News the woman had refused to comply when officers directed her to put the mask she was wearing over her nose and mouth.

Contrast that with photographs across social media showing crowds of sun-seekers packed into parks in wealthy, whiter areas of the city, lounging undisturbed as police officers hand out masks….

Without a significant course correction, the [police] department's role in the pandemic may look more and more like stop-and-frisk, the policing tactic that led to the harassment of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, most of them black and Hispanic, while rarely touching white New Yorkers. [Mayor Bill] de Blasio has scoffed at the comparison, though it's not clear why.

The "course correction" suggested by the Times—a "public health corps" consisting of "specially trained civilians" who would "fan out across the neighborhoods and parks, helping with pedestrian traffic control and politely encouraging New Yorkers entering parks to protect one another by wearing masks and keeping their distance"—presents problems of its own. While those specially trained civilians presumably would be less likely than police officers to tackle, beat, and tase people for perceived violations of COVID-19 precautions, the potential for violence would still exist.

What would a member of this public health corps do if a parkgoer says he intends to keep his distance from other people but is not willing to wear a mask, since he (correctly) views the risk of virus transmission in an uncrowded, open-air environment as negligible? (Fun fact: In New York, a masked person who "congregates" in a public place with "other persons so masked" is guilty of loitering, a violation punishable by up to 15 days in jail.)

The Times says "the Police Department would play only a minimal role in this approach." But if cops serve as a backstop in responding to recalcitrant pedestrians, we are back to a situation in which social distancing rules are enforced by blatantly violating them through the physical contact and close proximity required to arrest, book, and jail people (which puts them in an environment where the risk of catching COVID-19 is especially high).

We also have to allow for the possibility that disputes between social distancing encouragers (who may not be as polite as they are supposed to be) and uncooperative targets (some of whom will be indignant and perhaps belligerent) will escalate into physical altercations. That danger is by no means theoretical.

The Times cannot have it both ways. If COVID-19 precautions are mandatory, they must at some point be legally enforced, with all the risks that entails, including violence and racial discrimination. The public health payoff might justify those risks in certain contexts—if a dense crowd happens to gather in Central Park, for instance, or if subway riders refuse to wear masks (although that was the situation in the video that the Times cites as evidence of overkill). But the risks cannot be eliminated if voluntary compliance is less than perfect, as it always will be.

Police officers charged with enforcing mask-wearing and social distancing requirements have to constantly weigh the costs of forcible intervention against the likely benefits. As the Times notes, it is not a task they welcome. "This situation is untenable," says Patrick Lynch, president of the New York City Police Benevolent Association. "The NYPD needs to get cops out of the social distancing enforcement business altogether."

But that effectively means mandates will become recommendations. And while most people probably will follow those recommendations, out of concern for their own welfare if not out of consideration for others, some won't. The Times can't will away that tradeoff by pretending it does not exist.

https://reason.com/2020/05/20/...m_source=parsely-api

I have no idea why a cop would respond to a bs call in the city today. No sense in getting the town burned down or fired over a mask.

Wow...Gov. DeSantis said 260 workers at MCO have tested positive out of 500 workers tested. Hope no one on here has flown through there recently.

https://www.clickorlando.com/n...nd&utm_content=wkmg6

quote:

Originally posted by Ackks:
Wow...Gov. DeSantis said 260 workers at MCO have tested positive out of 500 workers tested. Hope no one on here has flown through there recently.

https://www.clickorlando.com/n...nd&utm_content=wkmg6

This from the article:

"However, it turns out those positive cases were not all airport employees and the cases were from a period of several months, according to the Orlando International Airport.

Orlando airport executives clarified the numbers Wednesday, clarifying not all 260 people are workers nor were they part of the group of 500 workers tested as referenced by the governor."

Minor details. .

but wait, there's more...

huge increase in COVID cases in Arizona...

everyone's atwitter about that - major headlines...its the end of the world bullshit

well, how about the fact that they've ramped up testing by a huge percentage...would one not expect to have cases increase if testing increases?

whats important is not the number of cases, but if there is an acceleration of people dying...

its all just so much bullshit

whats important is not the number of cases, but if there is an acceleration of people dying ...

Or more hospitalizations.

Naturally, more testing means more positives. But straight reporting of the facts won't maintain the panic.

Uh oh.

If this is to be believed, China is just now having a "second wave" hit and now it's hit Beijing pretty hard where you did not hear this during the January-May timeframe.

The US is about 2 months behind all that, so I really hope this doesn't also play out here in August or September. I don't think we can handle another drastic shutdown/lockdown like what happened from March-April nor will the American people accept it.

More lies. Open your eyes.

A frightening 2nd wave- The new coronavirus outbreak in Beijing grew to 106 cases Tuesday.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/c...g-second-wave-surge/

I can't find the number of deaths a day in China But I did see where 4400 people die each day from air pollution.

population of China 1,300,000,000
According to the data from the National Bureau of Statistics, the annual death toll in the country is about 8.9 million
Looks like about 24,000 people Die each day in China.

106 cases? Frightening I tell you?

China LYING again, like they have since last August...

Anyone who believes or promotes anything the ChiComs say is the FUCKING ENEMY.

23andMe study? I've heard it other places and find it interesting.

quote:

https://blog.23andme.com/23and...z-PZtT-sCcZ3DEd0JMsc

Preliminary data from 23andMe’s ongoing genetic study of COVID-19 appears to lend more evidence for the importance of a person’s blood type — determined by the ABO gene — in differences in the susceptibility to the virus.

23andMe is still recruiting for its massive study, most recently seeking 10,000 participants outside of 23andMe who have been hospitalized and diagnosed with COVID-19. 23andMe researchers have yet to finish looking at what the genetic data indicate.

But a first blush look at the information from the more than 750,000 participants in the study shows the following:

The preliminary data suggest that O blood type appears to be protective against the virus when compared to all other blood types.
Individuals with O blood type are between 9-18% percent less likely than individuals with other blood types to have tested positive for COVID-19, according to the data.
There appeared to be little differences in susceptibility among the other blood types.
These findings hold when adjusted for age, sex, body mass index, ethnicity, and co-morbidities.
Although one study found the blood group O only to be protective across rhesus positive blood types, differences in rhesus factor (blood type + or -) were not significant in 23andMe data. Nor was this a factor in susceptibility or severity in cases.
Among those exposed to the virus — healthcare and other front line workers — 23andMe found that blood type O is similarly protective, but the proportion of cases within strata is higher.
Preliminary Genetic Association
While it is still very early in the study, 23andMe’s preliminary investigation into genetics seems to support these findings. Comparing the research participants who reported that they tested positive for COVID-19 to those who tested negative, our researchers identified a variant in the ABO gene associated with a lower risk. (The single nucleotide polymorphism in the ABO gene is rs505922, a T at that location is associated with lower risk. The P-value for the association is 1.4e-8, OR = 0.88).

Both the data on blood type and the preliminary genetic findings also appear to support at least two recently published pre-print studies — one by researchers in China and the most recent one by researchers in Italy and Spain — that look at the ABO gene’s role in COVID-19. The study in China looked at susceptibility, while the Italian and Spanish study found an association with blood type and severity of the illness.

Numerous other studies have reported that the ABO blood group plays a role in both susceptibility and severity for COVID-19 (refs: 1, 2, 3). And we know from other studies that the ABO blood group can play a direct role in other types of infections by serving as receptors, or coreceptors for microorganisms, parasites, and viruses. The preliminary findings from 23andMe’s data are also notable because of the link between COVID-19 blood clotting, and cardiovascular disease.

Comparing Blood Types
23andMe researchers wanted to investigate this link with blood type, so we estimated the contribution to risk by comparing each blood group against each of the others. Because the differences are quite small, an extremely large sample size is needed to explore differences across groups. For 23andMe’s study, which now includes more than 750,000 individuals, we investigated the cumulative incidence of self-reported COVID-19 by blood type, hospitalization by blood type, and proportion of those infected after known exposure by blood type.

quote:

Originally posted by braillediver:
A frightening 2nd wave- The new coronavirus outbreak in Beijing grew to 106 cases Tuesday.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/c...g-second-wave-surge/

I can't find the number of deaths a day in China But I did see where 4400 people die each day from air pollution.

population of China 1,300,000,000
According to the data from the National Bureau of Statistics, the annual death toll in the country is about 8.9 million
Looks like about 24,000 people Die each day in China.

106 cases? Frightening I tell you?

Look on page 1 of this thread. Déjà vu. It's the same BS narrative just recycling itself to gear up for the election campaign season.

but the seasonal flu that kills thousands hasn't been a concern this year...

That old stuff? It doesn't even have a brand. Doesn't have an Instagram account or Twitter, doesn't have a media relations agent. The flu is a loser. COVID-19 has its own yacht.

And it's getting testy here in the middle of the Sunshine State. Our stumbling, bumbling, retarded county mayor jumped back into the media the other day to let us all know how worried he is about the increase of positive COVID cases in Central Florida, and that he really, really, doesn't want to have to order another shutdown. Apparently one businessman in attendance at Jerry da Tard's little media event told his highness point blank that he and his company 'would not' be shut down again, period. And Jerry da Tard's response to that comment? We don't know since ole Jer pulled a Biden and couldn't seem to find any coherent words to respond. We truly have the most retarded and incompetent cretins infesting government right now, and I so hope people keep giving them the middle finger salute as they ignore every word that flows from their mouths.

The 106 new cases in Beijing occurred over a 5 day period. The population of Beijing is nearly 20 million.

What's 21 cases daily divided by 20 Million? My calculator can't even calculate that fraction.