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^^^^^^

What the heck? It's discussed in the post right before yours!
 
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^^^^^^

What the heck? It's discussed in the post right before yours!


Sorry, I need more coffee and stronger reading glasses!



 
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There are going to be some interesting tan lines this summer.


My wife has been running County WuFlu test sites for the last 2 months, outdoors. The first week with strong sunshine she came home with two light marks running forward from the top and bottom creases of her ears to a lighter patch around he mouth and nose. Funny at the time.


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Posts: 944 | Location: SE-PA | Registered: August 09, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Went to Publix yesterday and some 40-ish year old woman asked me why I didn’t have a mask on after I passed her with my cart. I just stopped and turned around and said, “Because I’ve never been one to make decisions based on emotions, only logic, Karen“. All I got was a blank stare. I smiled and went on down the isle. I think she was pissed because I passed her and she was the one that had her cart almost in the middle of the isle.


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Posts: 4039 | Location: Northeast Georgia | Registered: November 18, 2017Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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a little diff view of one of the impacts

https://theconservativetreehou...program/#more-194987

The DOJ in Boston have announced the arrest of a Winchester resident, Elijah Majak Buoi, 38, for seeking more than $13 million in PPP loans from the COVID rescue package.

"forgivable loans"


BOSTON – A Winchester man was arrested today and charged with allegedly filing fraudulent loan applications seeking more than $13 million in forgivable loans guaranteed by the Small Business Administration (SBA) for COVID-19 relief through the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) under the Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security (CARES) Act.

Elijah Majak Buoi, 38, was charged in a criminal complaint with wire fraud, and will appear in federal court in Boston this afternoon.

According to the complaint, Buoi is the president and CEO of an information technology services company, Sosuda Tech, LLC. Between April 2020 and June 2020, Buoi allegedly submitted fraudulent applications for over $13 million in PPP loans through SBA-approved lenders. In these applications, Buoi misrepresented the number of employees and payroll expenses and falsely certified that the United States was the primary residence for his employees.

Buoi also allegedly submitted falsified documentation in support of his applications for PPP funds. The complaint further alleges that Buoi ultimately received over $2 million in PPP funds. The government has seized approximately $1.98 million from Sosuda’s business bank accounts.

“The defendant tried to defraud an emergency program designed to help businesses, and their employees, survive the most difficult economic crisis since the Great Depression,” said United States Attorney Andrew E. Lelling. “This behavior is reprehensible, and my office is committed to rooting out and prosecuting this kind of fraud wherever we find it.”
 
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Fuck that guy. ^
 
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US attorneys will have plenty of work prosecuting these cases for the next five years. Getting money quickly to people creates opportunity for thieves.
 
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How appropriate:

 
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Left and Sheep.

Not much else to say.
 
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I just learned a COVID tracker was installed on my phone. It wasn't there after the last update but it is there now. It cannot be disabled.

Android: Settings > Google
It's at the top of the list.




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Is is that you they are trying to get you to finish setting it up...?


https://www.forbes.com/sites/d...racing/#6456efe46054


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I just learned a COVID tracker was installed on my phone. It wasn't there after the last update but it is there now. It cannot be disabled.

Android: Settings > Google
It's at the top of the list.


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Is is that you they are trying to get you to finish setting it up...?


https://www.forbes.com/sites/d...racing/#6456efe46054


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I just learned a COVID tracker was installed on my phone. It wasn't there after the last update but it is there now. It cannot be disabled.

Android: Settings > Google
It's at the top of the list.


That appears correct the structure within Google to interface with a public health app has been installed in the core software of Google in the Android operating system. This was not there a few weeks ago and the last system update was at least 3 weeks ago.

I have not found a health tracking app, however there is a standard Samsung Heath App already installed ,and quite handy if your active. I'm not sure if this could be updated to finish the tracking process as it's already installed.




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WTF? those are sneaky and crooked bastards at Google. Mad
NO way to delete as I see it.
 
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I have an option to activate it (Google services: COVID-19 Exposure Notifications) which I declined as you can see here.




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If you don't have an associated tracking app installed, and you aren't supplying it with information, Google ain't tracking shit. After all, how would they know if you do or don't have the Wuhan if you don't tell them?

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I have an option to activate it (Google services: COVID-19 Exposure Notifications) which I declined as you can see here.



It's off because your bluetooth is turned off. Turn your bluetooth back on and look at it again.


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Well, as of today, our idiot governor has mandated that masks be worn in public. It may just be my imagination, but I find the tone of this article to be a bit smug about it.

https://www.seattletimes.com/s...read-of-coronavirus/


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Well, as of today, our idiot governor has mandated that masks be worn in public. It may just be my imagination, but I find the tone of this article to be a bit smug about it.

https://www.seattletimes.com/s...read-of-coronavirus/


Cases are spiking like mad here. Last week was record busting individual day cases day after day after day. Good ole Cle Jenkins just did the same thing. Dallas County now masks are mandatory.



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Federal Judge Blasts Whitmer’s Lockdown Defense

Describes argument to keep gyms closed as not science but ‘trust us, they’re still dangerous’

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s assertion that her COVID-19 executive orders are based on the “best science” came under attack when a federal judge wrote that her lawyers could provide no factual basis for keeping the state’s gyms shut down.

United States District Judge Paul Maloney gave his June 19 rebuke of Whitmer and her legal team’s response to a lawsuit brought by several gym businesses.

Eighteen days earlier, Whitmer had announced the state’s gyms would remain under epidemic emergency lockdown, while other businesses, including restaurants and bars, were permitted to reopen.

At a June 1 press conference, Whitmer stated, “The fact of the matter is we’re learning an incredible amount and we are trying to be nimble and move swiftly with the best science and best information that we have so that we can save lives.”

Michigan Capitol Confidential has previously reported on the governor’s past statements that science has been at the core of her executive orders.

Whitmer said in a May 3 CNN interview, “We are going to listen to facts and science.”

In an April 14 interview with National Public Radio, the governor said, “We’re going to have to make decisions based on the best science, the best medical advice and what’s in the best public health of the people of our individual states.”

And Whitmer followed up with an April 21 op-ed in The New York Times, writing, “Each action has been informed by the best science and epidemiology counsel there is.”

Despite the governor’s consistent claim that she was making science-driven decisions, her team of lawyers had no answer for the federal judge when pressed for the data supporting specific provisions of some executive orders.

Maloney emphasized that the bar he faced to uphold Whitmer’s executive orders was extremely low but not zero. He said also that the bar was very high for him to grant the gym owners’ request to let them reopen.

“Plaintiffs [gym businesses] must show that there is no conceivable set of facts from which a rational relation can be drawn,” the judge stated.

“Plaintiffs only argue ... the continued closure of gyms is arbitrary and unreasonable because gyms are basically the only category of businesses that remain closed in Michigan, and because the State has not put forward any scientific data that supports keeping gyms closed while opening other closely similar activities and businesses, such as swimming pools, restaurants and bars, and ‘personal touch’ services like salons,” the judge wrote.

And then, the judge stated how little evidence Whitmer’s team would have to produce to win the lawsuit.

“Rather, this Court must uphold the Governor’s Executive Orders as long as they are supported by some relation to the public health.”

Maloney then emphasized how far short Whitmer’s lawyers fell of even that low standard.

“Unfortunately, on the record before it, the Court has not been presented with any evidence that shows a rational relation between the continued closure of indoor gyms and the preservation of public health,” he wrote. “While the standard is extremely deferential here—if the Court can conceive of any set of facts that would support the Orders, it must uphold them and deny the injunction—the Orders must still connect the challenged prohibition with some fact or facts.”

The judge’s rebuke also described how, in oral arguments, the governor’s lawyers struggled to produce any data or science supporting her position:

“At oral argument, the Court pressed Defendants [Whitmer’s legal team] on what data, evidence, or rationale supported the continued closure of indoor gyms. Defendants cited to the preambles of the Executive Orders and vaguely stated that indoor gyms are a ‘petri dish’ of infection, but Defendants could not point to any facts in the record to support that statement,” the judge wrote. “Defendants emphasized the low bar: all that needed to be presented was a reasonably conceivable set of facts that connected the continued closure to protecting the public health. But when asked, even counsel was unable to state a rational basis to support the position that indoor gyms must still be closed. Defendants merely reiterated that a threat of transmission exists at indoor gyms, and the threat of transmission must be minimized.”

The judge continued: “Again, when asked at oral argument what that rational relation for continued closure of gyms is ... Counsel could not articulate a reason beyond the bare assertion that gyms are dangerous.”

Maloney even cited Whitmer’s oft-used claim of science and data as the basis for her orders.

“In the Governor’s own words, those choices have been based on data and science, and the Court commends and respects that. But when asked what data, science, or even rationale supports the continued closure of indoor gyms, Defendants presented nothing beyond ‘trust us, they’re still dangerous.’ From that vague statement and nothing more, the Court cannot create a set of facts that rationally connects the restriction with the legitimate government interest of protecting the public health.”

The judge also turned one of the arguments presented by the governor’s lawyers against them.

They had used a slippery slope argument to characterize the consequences that would follow if the judge granted the gym owners’ petition to let them reopen, suggesting an onslaught of lawsuits from other businesses aggrieved by Whitmer’s lockdown orders.

But the judge pointed to a different “slope.”

“If Defendants can open or close any sector of the economy, at will, with nothing more than a vague reference that it is ‘dangerous,’ the potential for abuse is palpable,” the judge wrote.

https://www.michigancapitolcon...ers-lockdown-defense



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Posts: 8295 | Location: in the red zone of the blue state, CT | Registered: October 15, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Cases are spiking like mad here.


Impossible - it's just more testing.
 
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Yep. Cases don’t mean shit. Hospitalizations do. Of course there are more cases. There’s more testing going on. A coworker at my company (Havent seen him in years) tested positive. No symptoms at all.


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