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Originally posted by cheesegrits:

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Originally posted by Ronin1069:
As restaurants re-open in Minnesota, it was announced yesterday that reservations were required.

Odd? Well this was done so that the Govt has a papertrail record of who ate there and when for tracking purposes. I'd like to introduce myself, Bob Berditzmen. Good to meet you!

We make reservations under the name of Abe Froman....the Sausage King of Chicago.

Reservations aren't required in my state, but I've noticed that a fair number of restaurants are asking that people make them before showing up.

Richard Gozzenya is another favorite, or Richard Fitzwell...

So after telling everyone that the virus is incredibly contagious and can survive on surfaces for weeks, the jackasses flip flop again.

For those of you still wiping down groceries and other packages amid the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, breathe a sigh of relief: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) now says the novel virus “does not spread easily” from "touching surfaces or objects" — but experts warn that doesn’t mean it’s no longer necessary to take "practical and realistic" precautions in stopping the spread of COVID-19.

Although when the change was made is not currently clear, the federal health agency appears to have subtly shifted its guidelines from March which simply said it “may be possible” to spread the virus from contaminated surfaces.

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"It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes," the CDC said on a now-archived page from March 28. At the time, however, the CDC did note that this possible method of transmission "is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads."

Even so, the CDC now includes "surfaces or objects" under a section that details ways in which the coronavirus does not readily transmit.

Other ways in which the virus does not easily spread is from animals to people, or from people to animals, the federal agency said on its updated page.

“COVID-19 is a new disease and we are still learning about how it spreads. It may be possible for COVID-19 to spread in other ways, but these are not thought to be the main ways the virus spreads,” according to the CDC.


The CDC did, however, remind citizens that the virus does mainly spread person-to-person, noting the virus that causes a COVID-19 infection, SARS-CoV-2, "is spreading very easily and sustainably between people.”

Maintaining a “good social distance," (keeping 6 feet away from others while in public), as well as washing hands often and “routinely” cleaning and disinfecting high-touch surfaces are still listed as key precautions. (Getty Images)
Maintaining a “good social distance," (keeping 6 feet away from others while in public), as well as washing hands often and “routinely” cleaning and disinfecting high-touch surfaces are still listed as key precautions. (Getty Images)
More specifically, the agency said the virus primarily spreads from person-to-person in the following ways:

Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet)
Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks
These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs
COVID-19 may be spread by people who are not showing symptoms
The change comes after a preliminary study from March suggested that the novel coronavirus can remain in the air for up to three hours, and live on surfaces such as plastic and stainless steel for up to three days, prompting many to take to wiping down packages and other items. However, at the time, the study was yet not peer-reviewed, and, as Yahoo notes, did not determine if people could be infected from touching certain surfaces analyzed.

Dr. John Whyte, the chief medical officer for the healthcare website WebMD, called the CDC’s changes an “important step in clarifying how the virus is spread, especially as we gain new information.”

“It also may help reduce anxiety and stress. Many people were concerned that by simply touching an object they may get coronavirus and that’s simply not the case. Even when a virus may stay on a surface, it doesn’t mean that it’s actually infectious,” Whyte told Fox News in an email.

The news comes after The Food and Drug Administration in mid-April issued a statement saying that there’s no need to wipe down food packaging after you’ve returned home from the grocery store. (Getty Images)
The news comes after The Food and Drug Administration in mid-April issued a statement saying that there’s no need to wipe down food packaging after you’ve returned home from the grocery store. (Getty Images)
“I think this new guideline helps people understand more about what does and doesn’t increase risk. It doesn’t mean we stop washing hands and disinfecting surfaces. But it does allow us to be practical and realistic as we try to return to a sense of normalcy,” he added.

Dr. William Schaffner, the medical director of the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases (NFID) and professor at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, echoed Whyte.


“The virus that causes COVID-19 is thought to spread mainly through close contact from person-to-person (within about 6 feet). Person-to-person contact is a highway. Touching infected surfaces are little paths, but they don’t carry the big viral traffic,” he told Fox News in an email. “To reduce the spread of COVID-19, the safest thing is to continue social distancing, wear masks, and wash hands frequently and thoroughly.”

Indeed, the CDC on its updated page reiterated important steps to take to prevent exposure to the virus. Maintaining a “good social distance," (keeping 6 feet away from others while in public), as well as washing hands often and “routinely” cleaning and disinfecting high-touch surfaces were listed as key precautions.

https://www.foxnews.com/health...ontaminated-surfaces

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Originally posted by Ronin1069:

As restaurants re-open in Minnesota, it was announced yesterday that reservations were required.

Odd? Well this was done so that the Govt has a papertrail record of who ate there and when for tracking purposes. I'd like to introduce myself, Bob Berditzmen. Good to meet you!

Harry Azcrac

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
If you're single you're totally screwed.

Dating these days is challenging enough. Try it when you have to wear mask, stay 6' away, and can't meet anywhere.

Oh, and don't forget haven't had a haircut since February.

Always look at the bright side. You aren't paying for restaurant dinners, expensive drinks, movies, sporting events, comedy shows, shopping trips, vacays. Pr0n is free

Yeah, and if you think the economy's going to come roaring back...

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With that said, it would set a good example for the President to follow the facility rules. No different than a hard hat, safety glasses, and ear plugs if required.

Sorry. No.

Let me rephrase that: F*CK NO

The President of the United States of America should NEVER be seen wearing a face mask. It projects fear and WEAKNESS. And you just know these assholes in the media will jump all over that and then shout “look at this guy, he’s scared, he’s wearing a mask, why is he wearing a mask?”

NOPE.

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
With that said, it would set a good example for the President to follow the facility rules. No different than a hard hat, safety glasses, and ear plugs if required.

Sorry. No.

Let me rephrase that: F*CK NO

The President of the United States of America should NEVER be seen wearing a face mask. It projects fear and WEAKNESS. And you just know these assholes in the media will jump all over that and then shout “look at this guy, he’s scared, he’s wearing a mask, why is he wearing a mask?”

NOPE.

Exactly damn right. The President of the United States DOES NOT WEAR A MASK. "A good example" is the last thing such an image would project.

I've got a notion that POTUS will come to MI whenever he wants to whether the AG of Michigan likes it or not.

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Dr. William Schaffner, the medical director of the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases (NFID) and professor at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, echoed Whyte.


“The virus that causes COVID-19 is thought to spread mainly through close contact from person-to-person (within about 6 feet). Person-to-person contact is a highway. Touching infected surfaces are little paths, but they don’t carry the big viral traffic,” he told Fox News in an email. “To reduce the spread of COVID-19, the safest thing is to continue social distancing, wear masks, and wash hands frequently and thoroughly.”


https://www.foxnews.com/health...ontaminated-surfaces

BACK OFF, MAN!

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
This whole thing is moved from silly, to absurd, to asinine, and now to fear based moronic delusion.

I'd like to post that on my door at work, but it would likely get me quarantined for two weeks. Or a [Skype] visit from HR.

"President Donald Trump on Thursday did not wear a mask for coronavirus protection during the public part of touring a Ford Motor Co. plant in Michigan, despite a state law and company policy requiring facial coverings there."

"“Not necessary,” Trump said, when a reporter asked why he was not wearing a facial covering.

“Everybody’s been tested and I’ve been tested.”

Trump also claimed “I had one [a mask] on before,” in an area that was not visible to reporters, but added, “I didn’t want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it.”

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Originally posted by Ronin1069:

As restaurants re-open in Minnesota, it was announced yesterday that reservations were required.

Odd? Well this was done so that the Govt has a papertrail record of who ate there and when for tracking purposes. I'd like to introduce myself, Bob Berditzmen. Good to meet you!

Nice to meet you, I’m Art VanDelay.

On a related note, can the police read the reservation book without a warrant? Asking for a friend.

The first court challenges of Governor Whitmer fail. She can continue her emergency power without legislative oversight.

https://www.clickondetroit.com...egislative-approval/

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
The first court challenges of Governor Whitmer fail. She can continue her emergency power without legislative oversight.

https://www.clickondetroit.com...egislative-approval/

That ruling makes no sense. The judge at the same time concedes Whitmer broke the law and asserts the Legislature's complaint she did so was meritless. Say what?

Haven't looked, but I'd bet the judge is also a leftist democrat.

They don't need to look at a reservations list when they can look at your credit card purchases, phone location data, phone records, surveillance videos. Hell, Google will tell them you were at the restaurant.

What's odd about this is that, in the first hearing, the judge openly expressed skepticism of the Governor's legal team's arguments. Now she's ruled in their favor? Something wrong with this picture.

And this court decision will only encourage Whitmer to continue the tyranny.
Lawful (maybe) or not, the quarantining of healthy
people across the entire state was not justified or necessary.

NO Doubt the Legislature will Appeal that ruling!