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i love listen to this guy (even if he is a Canuck Razz) , sometimes a little too legalize for me but in general is on point.

 
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As restaurants re-open in Minnesota, it was announced yesterday that reservations were required.

Odd? Well this was done so that the Govt has a papertrail record of who ate there and when for tracking purposes. I'd like to introduce myself, Bob Berditzmen. Good to meet you!


We make reservations under the name of Abe Froman....the Sausage King of Chicago. Smile

Reservations aren't required in my state, but I've noticed that a fair number of restaurants are asking that people make them before showing up.
 
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I’ve been saying for awhile now that there are many many people who will never recover mentally from this. There won’t even be a new normal for them whatever it may be. Their lives from now on will be a existence of constant fear. Those people with the lake cabin are exhibit A. How long can people live like that before having a complete mental breakdown?


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Originally posted by SummersAtTheLake:
I'm at the Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri and all indications are that our population will swell by 250,000 plus this weekend and possibly more....even yesterday the bars and restaurants I drove by were packed. Lots of people from the large cities in surrounding states will be here.
It will be an interesting weekend.

My brother has a place there. He will be there. I'm sure it will be fun...
Fortunately, (or unfortunately, not sure which Razz Smile) I'll be in Tennessee visiting my daughters and the new grand-baby.



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I’ve been saying for awhile now that there are many many people who will never recover mentally from this. There won’t even be a new normal for them whatever it may be. Their lives from now on will be a existence of constant fear. Those people with the lake cabin are exhibit A. How long can people live like that before having a complete mental breakdown?
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I am seeing this in my area. There are some people that have not left their home since March. Probably had underlying agoraphobia. Obssessive compulsive behavior, checking and rechecking, continual hand washing is on the increase. There are NO effective medications to treat these conditions. COVID 19 has created a mental health crisis for many people. People who drank heavily are now free to drink as they work from home. The prices of some drugs, ie meth and heroin have increased due to tighter border crossing requirements.
 
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Subscribed! Succinct and amusing. Thanks!
 
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Did a forum search and didn't see this story posted...but it probably shouldn't surprise anyone.

[Note: hyperlinks at the linked story website]

Researchers: Nearly Half Of Accounts Tweeting About Coronavirus Are Likely Bots

May 20, 202010:19 PM ET

Nearly half of the Twitter accounts spreading messages on the social media platform about the coronavirus pandemic are likely bots, researchers at Carnegie Mellon University said Wednesday.

Researchers culled through more than 200 million tweets discussing the virus since January and found that about 45% were sent by accounts that behave more like computerized robots than humans.

It is too early to say conclusively which individuals or groups are behind the bot accounts, but researchers said the tweets appeared aimed at sowing division in America.

"We do know that it looks like it's a propaganda machine, and it definitely matches the Russian and Chinese playbooks, but it would take a tremendous amount of resources to substantiate that," said Kathleen Carley, a professor of computer science at Carnegie Mellon University who is conducting a study into bot-generated coronavirus activity on Twitter that has yet to be published.

Researchers identified more than 100 false narratives about COVID-19 that are proliferating on Twitter by accounts controlled by bots.

Among the misinformation disseminated by bot accounts: tweeted conspiracy theories about hospitals being filled with mannequins or tweets that connected the spread of the coronavirus to 5G wireless towers, a notion that is patently untrue.

Such bogus ideas on the Internet have caused real-world harm. In England, dozens of wireless towers have been set on fire in acts officials believe have been fueled by false conspiracy theories linking the rollout of 5G technology to the coronavirus.

"We're seeing up to two times as much bot activity as we'd predicted based on previous natural disasters, crises and elections," Carley said.

Using a so-called bot-hunter tool, researchers flagged accounts that tweet more than is humanly possible or claim to be in multiple countries within a few hours' period. Researchers say they examine a Twitter account's followers, frequency of tweeting and how often the user is mentioned on the platform in determining whether the tweeter is a bot account.

"When we see a whole bunch of tweets at the same time or back to back, it's like they're timed," Carley said. "We also look for use of the same exact hashtag, or messaging that appears to be copied and pasted from one bot to the next."

A Twitter spokeswoman declined to comment on the Carnegie Mellon findings, but the company says it has removed thousands of tweets containing misleading or potentially harmful information about the coronavirus.

Twitter says its automated systems have "challenged" 1.5 million accounts that were targeting discussions about COVID-19 with malicious or manipulative behavior.

Last week, Twitter unveiled new labels that will accompany misleading, disputed or unverified tweets about the coronavirus, an effort that attempts to tamp down the rapid spread of tweets carrying harmful and false information about the global health crisis.

Where in the world most of the bot accounts are based is still being probed by researchers, though some reports have implicated Russian actors in the spread of misinformation in the U.S. amid the pandemic.

Reuters reported in March that Russian media have recently deployed a widespread disinformation campaign against the West to worsen the impact of the coronavirus to create panic and distrust.

Efforts to fight back against the spread of false information about COVID-19 come just as the federal government and election security experts keep a watchful eye on the November election.

American intelligence agencies concluded that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election. Experts believe Russian actors will try to influence the 2020 vote as well, including by using social media to amplify their messages.

Carley with Carnegie Mellon said countering bot accounts on Twitter is not a simple task. Blocked accounts can resurface, and the disinformation networks are sophisticated and difficult to completely root out.

She offers this advice, though: Look out for subtle typos, for tweets being sent out very quickly, or profile images and usernames that appear suspicious.

"Even if someone appears to be from your community, if you don't know them personally, take a closer look, and always go to authoritative or trusted sources for information," Carley said. "Just be very vigilant."
 
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From the science journal Nature online “briefing”
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Virus ravages organs from heart to brain
Autopsies on 27 people with COVID-19 have found the coronavirus not only in the lungs, but also in the kidneys, liver, heart, brain and blood. By scrutinizing databases of genetic activity, researchers also found that three genes known to encourage SARS-CoV-2 infection are highly active in kidney cells. Additional analysis of six people detected virus in all examined kidney compartments, which helps to explain the kidney damage seen in some people with the illness.
Reference: The New England Journal of Medicine paper

LINKS:

https://us17.campaign-archive....766c5ad&e=4b6aea794d

https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.10...-e3a766c5ad-43423637




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The “6 foot” rule is also a compromise.
No, the 6' rule is utter bullshit as has also been shown in studies to be inadequate to insure non-transfer of the virus. It's 'exactly' on par with the magazine capacity restriction saving lives BS. Let's see, if I make the rule 3' people will see it as all but irrelevant and ignore it. If I make the rule 12', people will see it as extreme and ignore it. So we'll set it at 6' because that's the distance that most people will accept and comply with. Wanna guarantee against getting or transmitting the virus, grab a hazmat suit and supplemental air tank. Short of that, wash your hands when appropriate (i.e. common sense), keep your hands away from your face (i.e. common sense), and stay home if you're sick (i.e. common sense). This whole thing is moved from silly, to absurd, to asinine, and now to fear based moronic delusion.


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If you're single you're totally screwed.

Dating these days is challenging enough. Try it when you have to wear mask, stay 6' away, and can't meet anywhere.

Oh, and don't forget haven't had a haircut since February.




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These witches in Michigan are out of control

"Michigan's attorney general said President Donald Trump will be told not to come back if he refuses to wear a face mask when he tours a Ford Motor plant"

'Honestly, if he fails to wear a mask, he's going to be asked not to return to any enclosed facility inside our state,' Dana Nessel, a Democrat, told CNN"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...-wear-face-mask.html



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Let's see, if I make the rule 3' people will see it as all but irrelevant and ignore it. If I make the rule 12', people will see it as extreme and ignore it. So we'll set it at 6' because that's the distance that most people will accept and comply with.


Thanks for having actually read my post. I doubt many people do.
And thanks, too, for spelling out what I thought about including, but decided it would have tortured a bunch of electrons to no purpose. Your example is precisely why I called it a compromise. One is too much for people to accept, one too little for anyone to think is effective, so we pick something in between. Indeed, the whole “distancing” thing at all is a compromise between none and total enforced isolation, as reportedly occurred to some extent in China. The world is full of such decisions made on similar bases and many of them are called “compromises” at the time. Hence my use of the word as well.

And, oh: There is nothing about compromises that guarantees they will be effective in achieving their intended goals. In fact, if they achieve anything, it is very often the exact opposite effect because they don’t make anyone happy—unlike just choosing one extreme or the other and satisfying a few people.




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These witches in Michigan are out of control

"Michigan's attorney general said President Donald Trump will be told not to come back if he refuses to wear a face mask when he tours a Ford Motor plant"

'Honestly, if he fails to wear a mask, he's going to be asked not to return to any enclosed facility inside our state,' Dana Nessel, a Democrat, told CNN"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...-wear-face-mask.html


You missed the fact the the Governor issued an executive order this week banning all non-essential visits to manufacturers. Followed by the County Commissioner issuing a statement telling Trump not to visit.

With that said, it would set a good example for the President to follow the facility rules. No different than a hard hat, safety glasses, and ear plugs if required.

As a side note, our Quee... Sorry, governor is going to allow retail businesses to open Tuesday provided no more than 10 people are allowed in their facility. I'm sure Kolhs, Penney's, etc will be thrilled to have 50-80 employees working to support no more than 10 customers at any one time. And of course AFTER Memorial Day, further crushing sales.




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...no more than 10 customers at any one time.
Well, a nice round number, that's not arbitrary at all. Roll Eyes

When every other damn state is using percentages of capacity, usually based on the fire marshal rating.


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Thanks for having actually read my post. I doubt many people do.


Then again many may follow yours and others' posts very closely. Smile

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Hard to believe the citizens of Michigan haven't ran out of patience.
 
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Let's see, if I make the rule 3' people will see it as all but irrelevant and ignore it. If I make the rule 12', people will see it as extreme and ignore it. So we'll set it at 6' because that's the distance that most people will accept and comply with.


 
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I'm sure Kolhs, Penney's, etc will be thrilled to have 50-80 employees working to support no more than 10 customers at any one time.
Let's see if I follow this moron's thinking. As a business owner I can stay closed and lose $1k or open under these rules and lose $2k. I suggested many pages back this woman was retarded, this action proves it.


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I liken it to strip mining:

Who cares about MI? She's out of there, and she knows it. It's all about the DNC friendly optics, and always Orange Man Bad, and his band of Tangoes.


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You remember back in the early 90's all the church burnings that were not.

Well, I don't believe this one either.

https://www.dailywire.com/news...oEL2Tq5KW9p0KgHQAUfQ
 
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