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When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)

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May 21, 2020, 01:57 PM
stoic-one
When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
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...no more than 10 customers at any one time.
Well, a nice round number, that's not arbitrary at all. Roll Eyes

When every other damn state is using percentages of capacity, usually based on the fire marshal rating.


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May 21, 2020, 02:00 PM
Expat
quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
Thanks for having actually read my post. I doubt many people do.


Then again many may follow yours and others' posts very closely. Smile

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May 21, 2020, 02:01 PM
bdylan
Hard to believe the citizens of Michigan haven't ran out of patience.
May 21, 2020, 02:05 PM
HRK
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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Let's see, if I make the rule 3' people will see it as all but irrelevant and ignore it. If I make the rule 12', people will see it as extreme and ignore it. So we'll set it at 6' because that's the distance that most people will accept and comply with.



May 21, 2020, 02:08 PM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by Rightwire:
I'm sure Kolhs, Penney's, etc will be thrilled to have 50-80 employees working to support no more than 10 customers at any one time.
Let's see if I follow this moron's thinking. As a business owner I can stay closed and lose $1k or open under these rules and lose $2k. I suggested many pages back this woman was retarded, this action proves it.


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May 21, 2020, 02:14 PM
gruntjim
I liken it to strip mining:

Who cares about MI? She's out of there, and she knows it. It's all about the DNC friendly optics, and always Orange Man Bad, and his band of Tangoes.


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May 21, 2020, 02:20 PM
DSgrouse
You remember back in the early 90's all the church burnings that were not.

Well, I don't believe this one either.

https://www.dailywire.com/news...oEL2Tq5KW9p0KgHQAUfQ
May 21, 2020, 02:24 PM
RHINOWSO
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Originally posted by cheesegrits:
quote:
Originally posted by Ronin1069:
As restaurants re-open in Minnesota, it was announced yesterday that reservations were required.

Odd? Well this was done so that the Govt has a papertrail record of who ate there and when for tracking purposes. I'd like to introduce myself, Bob Berditzmen. Good to meet you!


We make reservations under the name of Abe Froman....the Sausage King of Chicago. Smile

Reservations aren't required in my state, but I've noticed that a fair number of restaurants are asking that people make them before showing up.
Richard Gozzenya is another favorite, or Richard Fitzwell...
May 21, 2020, 02:29 PM
SIG4EVA
So after telling everyone that the virus is incredibly contagious and can survive on surfaces for weeks, the jackasses flip flop again.

For those of you still wiping down groceries and other packages amid the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, breathe a sigh of relief: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) now says the novel virus “does not spread easily” from "touching surfaces or objects" — but experts warn that doesn’t mean it’s no longer necessary to take "practical and realistic" precautions in stopping the spread of COVID-19.

Although when the change was made is not currently clear, the federal health agency appears to have subtly shifted its guidelines from March which simply said it “may be possible” to spread the virus from contaminated surfaces.

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"It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes," the CDC said on a now-archived page from March 28. At the time, however, the CDC did note that this possible method of transmission "is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads."

Even so, the CDC now includes "surfaces or objects" under a section that details ways in which the coronavirus does not readily transmit.

Other ways in which the virus does not easily spread is from animals to people, or from people to animals, the federal agency said on its updated page.

“COVID-19 is a new disease and we are still learning about how it spreads. It may be possible for COVID-19 to spread in other ways, but these are not thought to be the main ways the virus spreads,” according to the CDC.


The CDC did, however, remind citizens that the virus does mainly spread person-to-person, noting the virus that causes a COVID-19 infection, SARS-CoV-2, "is spreading very easily and sustainably between people.”

Maintaining a “good social distance," (keeping 6 feet away from others while in public), as well as washing hands often and “routinely” cleaning and disinfecting high-touch surfaces are still listed as key precautions. (Getty Images)
Maintaining a “good social distance," (keeping 6 feet away from others while in public), as well as washing hands often and “routinely” cleaning and disinfecting high-touch surfaces are still listed as key precautions. (Getty Images)
More specifically, the agency said the virus primarily spreads from person-to-person in the following ways:

Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet)
Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks
These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs
COVID-19 may be spread by people who are not showing symptoms
The change comes after a preliminary study from March suggested that the novel coronavirus can remain in the air for up to three hours, and live on surfaces such as plastic and stainless steel for up to three days, prompting many to take to wiping down packages and other items. However, at the time, the study was yet not peer-reviewed, and, as Yahoo notes, did not determine if people could be infected from touching certain surfaces analyzed.

Dr. John Whyte, the chief medical officer for the healthcare website WebMD, called the CDC’s changes an “important step in clarifying how the virus is spread, especially as we gain new information.”

“It also may help reduce anxiety and stress. Many people were concerned that by simply touching an object they may get coronavirus and that’s simply not the case. Even when a virus may stay on a surface, it doesn’t mean that it’s actually infectious,” Whyte told Fox News in an email.

The news comes after The Food and Drug Administration in mid-April issued a statement saying that there’s no need to wipe down food packaging after you’ve returned home from the grocery store. (Getty Images)
The news comes after The Food and Drug Administration in mid-April issued a statement saying that there’s no need to wipe down food packaging after you’ve returned home from the grocery store. (Getty Images)
“I think this new guideline helps people understand more about what does and doesn’t increase risk. It doesn’t mean we stop washing hands and disinfecting surfaces. But it does allow us to be practical and realistic as we try to return to a sense of normalcy,” he added.

Dr. William Schaffner, the medical director of the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases (NFID) and professor at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, echoed Whyte.


“The virus that causes COVID-19 is thought to spread mainly through close contact from person-to-person (within about 6 feet). Person-to-person contact is a highway. Touching infected surfaces are little paths, but they don’t carry the big viral traffic,” he told Fox News in an email. “To reduce the spread of COVID-19, the safest thing is to continue social distancing, wear masks, and wash hands frequently and thoroughly.”

Indeed, the CDC on its updated page reiterated important steps to take to prevent exposure to the virus. Maintaining a “good social distance," (keeping 6 feet away from others while in public), as well as washing hands often and “routinely” cleaning and disinfecting high-touch surfaces were listed as key precautions.

https://www.foxnews.com/health...ontaminated-surfaces


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May 21, 2020, 02:58 PM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by Ronin1069:

As restaurants re-open in Minnesota, it was announced yesterday that reservations were required.

Odd? Well this was done so that the Govt has a papertrail record of who ate there and when for tracking purposes. I'd like to introduce myself, Bob Berditzmen. Good to meet you!
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May 21, 2020, 03:03 PM
Prefontaine
quote:
Originally posted by Rightwire:
If you're single you're totally screwed.

Dating these days is challenging enough. Try it when you have to wear mask, stay 6' away, and can't meet anywhere.

Oh, and don't forget haven't had a haircut since February.


Always look at the bright side. You aren't paying for restaurant dinners, expensive drinks, movies, sporting events, comedy shows, shopping trips, vacays. Pr0n is free Big Grin



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May 21, 2020, 03:34 PM
Il Cattivo
Yeah, and if you think the economy's going to come roaring back...
May 21, 2020, 04:01 PM
PASig
quote:
Originally posted by Rightwire:
With that said, it would set a good example for the President to follow the facility rules. No different than a hard hat, safety glasses, and ear plugs if required.



Sorry. No.

Let me rephrase that: F*CK NO

The President of the United States of America should NEVER be seen wearing a face mask. It projects fear and WEAKNESS. And you just know these assholes in the media will jump all over that and then shout “look at this guy, he’s scared, he’s wearing a mask, why is he wearing a mask?”

NOPE.


May 21, 2020, 04:04 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by PASig:
quote:
Originally posted by Rightwire:
With that said, it would set a good example for the President to follow the facility rules. No different than a hard hat, safety glasses, and ear plugs if required.



Sorry. No.

Let me rephrase that: F*CK NO

The President of the United States of America should NEVER be seen wearing a face mask. It projects fear and WEAKNESS. And you just know these assholes in the media will jump all over that and then shout “look at this guy, he’s scared, he’s wearing a mask, why is he wearing a mask?”

NOPE.


Exactly damn right. The President of the United States DOES NOT WEAR A MASK. "A good example" is the last thing such an image would project.


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May 21, 2020, 04:38 PM
Krazeehorse
I've got a notion that POTUS will come to MI whenever he wants to whether the AG of Michigan likes it or not.


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May 21, 2020, 05:42 PM
RichardC
quote:
Originally posted by SIG4EVA:

Dr. William Schaffner, the medical director of the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases (NFID) and professor at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, echoed Whyte.


“The virus that causes COVID-19 is thought to spread mainly through close contact from person-to-person (within about 6 feet). Person-to-person contact is a highway. Touching infected surfaces are little paths, but they don’t carry the big viral traffic,” he told Fox News in an email. “To reduce the spread of COVID-19, the safest thing is to continue social distancing, wear masks, and wash hands frequently and thoroughly.”


https://www.foxnews.com/health...ontaminated-surfaces




BACK OFF, MAN!


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May 21, 2020, 06:05 PM
vthoky
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Originally posted by bigdeal:
This whole thing is moved from silly, to absurd, to asinine, and now to fear based moronic delusion.


I'd like to post that on my door at work, but it would likely get me quarantined for two weeks. Or a [Skype] visit from HR. Roll Eyes




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May 21, 2020, 06:09 PM
mikeyspizza
"President Donald Trump on Thursday did not wear a mask for coronavirus protection during the public part of touring a Ford Motor Co. plant in Michigan, despite a state law and company policy requiring facial coverings there."

"“Not necessary,” Trump said, when a reporter asked why he was not wearing a facial covering.

“Everybody’s been tested and I’ve been tested.”

Trump also claimed “I had one [a mask] on before,” in an area that was not visible to reporters, but added, “I didn’t want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it.”

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May 21, 2020, 06:10 PM
Lt CHEG
quote:
Originally posted by Ronin1069:

As restaurants re-open in Minnesota, it was announced yesterday that reservations were required.

Odd? Well this was done so that the Govt has a papertrail record of who ate there and when for tracking purposes. I'd like to introduce myself, Bob Berditzmen. Good to meet you!


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May 21, 2020, 06:13 PM
ZSMICHAEL
On a related note, can the police read the reservation book without a warrant? Asking for a friend.