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Oh stewardess,
I speak jive.
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Originally posted by RAMIUS:
That’s it. I’m going to hoard all the whiskey.

I'm sitting on 3x mixed cases of 12 bottles each in my whiskey Boonker, plus 17 open bottles at the moment.

At my average consumption rate that's every bit of 5+yrs worth, even if I share w guests.

It's a good whiskey hoarding Starter Kit.
 
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Wait, what?
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I just saw a report on the local NBC station that a dog in China has tested positive for the Corona virus. We're all screwed now.

I saw that- it was a “weak positive”, which hopefully just means the virus is simply present in the dogs nasal cavity as a matter of environmental proximity. It doesn’t necessarily mean they are carriers.




“Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown
 
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I just saw a report on the local NBC station that a dog in China has tested positive for the Corona virus. We're all screwed now.


Close the dog parks?

Mine will self quarantine with me if necessary. Maybe we'll cut back on the public walks, and stick to private property and less traveled trails when it blows through.


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US reports first drug shortage related to Covid-19

The US has its first outbreak-related drug shortage, according to a US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) statement published on Thursday.

The manufacturer of an unnamed human medication that was recently added to the FDA drug shortages list told the agency the shortage was related to a site affected by the virus.

“The shortage is due to an issue with manufacturing of an active pharmaceutical ingredient used in the drug. It is important to note that there are other alternatives that can be used by patients,” the notice said. “We will do everything possible to mitigate the shortage.”

The FDA said it had been in touch with more than 180 makers of human medications and identified about 20 other drugs which source their active pharmaceutical ingredients or finished products solely from China. The agency said none of these firms had reported any shortage to date.

https://www.scmp.com/news/chin...china-cases-fall-327


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Today China stopped giving numbers of dead people.
"We aren't going to give you the real numbers, and nobody believes our fake numbers anymore, so why bother?"
Well, that's my translation.

And NO, it didn't come from our bio-lab... maybe it came from MARS!

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Again, again & again, I tried to fathom #CCP's bottom line, but could never figure it out. Now they are hinting that #COVID19 #Coronaviruscould come from #Mars, (yes, Mars!), and saying that @realDonaldTrump
should not support NASA's plan to bring samples back to earth from Mars
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https://twitter.com/jenniferat.../1233247350254178304



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Today China stopped giving numbers of dead people.
"We aren't going to give you the real numbers, and nobody believes our fake numbers anymore, so why bother?"
Well, that's my translation.


Well, isn't that nice of them.
 
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I haven't been following this "the end of the world is near" thread and likely won't from here on.

This morning, I saw a news article stating that there is a run on face masks, even though most people who aren't sick don't need them.

Which made me think: Aren't most of these face masks made in China? Uh...




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Posts: 2857 | Location: Peoples Republic of North Virginia | Registered: December 04, 2015Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I posted many pages ago about a guy I train BJJ with is going to China, with his wife, to adopt a girl. As far as I know they still plan on going, is it still possible to fly there and will he have to enter an official quarantine or just quarantine at home?
 
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Aren't most of these face masks made in China? Uh...

About a week ago, China had a shipping container vessel bound for the US return to port so it could bring back a large shipment of N95 masks. That should give you an idea as to how supplies have dried up there, and how they could dry up here as well.




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thanks, finally, found em in a store, cheap too !


thanks, shawn
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Originally posted by trapper189:
I just saw a report on the local NBC station that a dog in China has tested positive for the Corona virus. We're all screwed now.

I saw that- it was a “weak positive”, which hopefully just means the virus is simply present in the dogs nasal cavity as a matter of environmental proximity. It doesn’t necessarily mean they are carriers.

Could also mean their tests are imperfect.
 
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I just saw a report on the local NBC station that a dog in China has tested positive for the Corona virus. We're all screwed now.
So, you guys want this thread locked? Is that what you're saying? When you start with this 'end of the world' nonsense, I am not going to tolerate it. That's a guarantee.

Cool it with the quasi-authoritative announcemnents.

Get a grip, please. This is comical.
 
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Could also mean their tests are imperfect.

It’s far more likely that the dog had virus particles in its nostrils; as I recall, that’s where the swab test was done. Not for a second do I believe they are carriers. In fact, after their Mars nonsense and no longer reporting their sick/dead totals, anything they propose is misdirection and obfuscation at this point.




“Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown
 
Posts: 15937 | Location: Martinsburg WV | Registered: April 02, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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It looks like I may begin operating in and out of China quite a bit, soon. We've had some discussion about the risk.

I went into a Dubai mall yesterday, which was packed. I could feel the humidity increase walking through the door; so many breathing. I would estimate close contact with thousands. Indirect contact with millions. It's pointless to go underground and hide; normal precautions taken for anything, yes. Washing hands, etc. In this location, the food is at the food court; the alternative is to go without eating.

It's possible to get sick or pick something up. I get sick several times a year, whether it's people in the field co-workers, who knows? The only way to avoid that, I think, is to stop living life and wrap up in a bubble. That's not happening, and I refuse to live in fear.

If I get sick, I get sick, and hopefully it's not too serious and passes like other illnesses. I can't go through the day with masks and gloves everywhere; it's not practical. I wash my hands, try not to touch my face, and try to steer clear of those visibly sick. I've been at numerous locations where the novel virus is, including Travis AFB and locations where those who are infected are being moved, and quarantined. I'll be back there again in a couple of days.

I may get sick; that possibility does exist. I think it would be the wrong approach to get worked up about it at this point. We're all around sicknesses and disease every day; we don't all get sick every day. Take basic, common-sense precautions, live life.
 
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It's all about relative risk and the appropriate precautions.

I wear a seat belt when I drive.

I wear a crash helmet when my wife drives.




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It's a good whiskey hoarding Starter Kit.


Why would you hoard bad whiskey?


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So, you guys want this thread locked? Is that what you're saying? When you start with this 'end of the world' nonsense, I am not going to tolerate it. That's a guarantee.

Cool it with the quasi-authoritative announcemnents.

Get a grip, please. This is comical.


I'm sorry. My post was meant to poke fun at the absurdity of the knee-jerk, chicken-little reactions many people seem to be having. I have zero belief that the world is ending at this moment. The worst effects are the ones we, as in people on the planet, are creating. All the disruptions in commerce, stock market, shortages of goods and services are our, again people on the planet, own creation. The whole planet is going to place itself on lockdown because a lot of people could get the sniffles and some may die, just like happens every other normal day. It would be comical if it weren't so stupid.
 
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It's all about relative risk and the appropriate precautions.

I wear a seat belt when I drive.

I wear a crash helmet when my wife drives.

Smile



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You need to take a Statistics class. If a river is 10 miles long and 1” deep everywhere except for a tenth of a mile section where it’s a mile deep, then the river is too dangerous to cross b/c on average it’s 52.8 feet deep. Instead one needs to break down the figures that go into the aggregate data. In addition to mortality, you also need to take into consideration infectivity. This is where the Flu blows the Coronavirus out of the water.
Finally I’m tired of people saying we have a vaccine for the latter. Only two strains are selected each year for antigen replication/production, which make up the innoculant. It’s not an all-encompassing vaccine by any means and the antigenic decision is a best-guess prediction as to which Flu strain will make its way from China to the U.S.


Yes, I have taken a statistics class (although it was almost 30 years ago). And, yes, I agree that certain groups will be more at risk than others.

However, do you have the information on a breakdown of fatalities due to COVID-19. I've searched and I haven't found anything.

As for a vaccine, there are companies and countries who are working on one right now. But as you point out this takes time.

Yes, I understand that the flu vaccine is a best guess and is not always 100% effective in preventing the strains that eventually make their way into the wild. But sometimes they do work as advertised. Sometimes they guess right. Sometimes they guess wrong.

As for when, if ever, a vaccine for COVID-19 may be available, probably at best six months.


Here is the breakdown of fatalities you asked for...
https://www.worldometers.info/...ge-sex-demographics/

As you can see it predominantly affects older people and those with otherwise compromised immune systems..


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Coronavirus Death rates are about 1 in 50 and that's how it really differs from flu.


Life death rates are 100%. Coronavirus, flu or life ain't no one getting off this rock alive. Wink
 
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