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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Hmmmmm.....

If I recall from my basic biology studies, not a single motherfucking one of us, makes it off this ball of mud, alive.

No matter what, we all gonna die.

You can "die today", and quit living, be a slave to "safety and life", or you can "die to self and foolishness" and "live to enjoy the freedom" of not following the silly notions of the former group, who are dead already.

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Originally posted by sigspecops:
Today I passed a a younger guy riding his bike, all alone, no one within 300 yards and he's wearing a mask. God have mercy, people are 100 times more stupid and gullible than I thought possible. On the bright side, we now have an identifying label on every idiot in town.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Not defending the Navajo at all, just explaining the realities of the Rez. It really is an island of a 3rd world country inside the US.

You know... we've been propping them up for over 100 years?
Maybe it's time to assimilate or perish? Sorry so harsh.

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Originally posted by 46and2:
What's with MFers wearing masks *alone*, *in their cars*, *windows up*...???

O M G (Becky).

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Originally posted by 46and2:
What's with MFers wearing masks *alone*, *in their cars*, *windows up*...???

O M G (Becky).

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Coronavirus: Inside Sweden’s unique and controversial approach to COVID-19

When COVID-19 struck, this country did the opposite of all others – it didn’t shut down anything. Thousands have died but some still hail it as a success.

Shannon Molloy

They’re images that seem alien these days – people dining out at restaurants, lazing in parks surrounded by others, going to work and dropping their kids at school, or chatting in shops.

Since the coronavirus pandemic forced almost every country on the planet to bring a rapid end to many elements of everyday life, these kinds of once-normal activities have been largely impossible.

But one nation remains the stark outlier, adopting a unique and controversial approach to dealing with the public health crisis.

It hasn’t banned anything. Instead, Sweden is simply asking citizens to be responsible and safe, and is counting on them to do the right thing.

Apart from encouraging people to keep two metres away from others and work from home if possible, it’s business as usual in the European nation.

As of Thursday, Sweden has 20,300 confirmed cases of coronavirus and the death toll stands at 2462, with a high infection mortality rate of about 12 per cent.

Despite that heavy loss, significantly higher than its Scandinavian neighbours, some are heralding the approach as something of a success – and a potential road map for the rest of the world.

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MILESTONE IMMINENT

This week, Sweden’s Public Health Agency forecast that one-third of people in the capital of Stockholm will have been infected by coronavirus by early next month.

That’s the equivalent of 200,000 people and significantly higher than the official number of cases confirmed across the whole country.

It’s because the agency believes there are some 75 unconfirmed cases for every confirmed case.

And it’s confident the peak of infection has passed.

“We believe we passed the peak of the transmission a week ago,” Dr Tegnell told the BBC. “It will definitely affect the reproduction rate and slow down the spread.”

There are some early signs that he could be right.

A study from New Zealand researchers this week examined the reproduction rates in several countries and compared it to their individual pandemic response plans.

Hassan Vally, an associate professor at La Trobe University, examined the research and said Sweden’s Reff – or effective reproduction rate of infection – has dipped below one.

“A Reff of less than one means each infected person spreads the virus to less than one other person, on average,” Associate Professor Vally explained.

“By keeping Reff below one, the number of new infections will fall and the virus will ultimately disappear from the community.”

Sweden’s “markedly relaxed” approach has been contentious, he said, and the number of cases and deaths there is much higher than elsewhere in Scandinavia.

“But Reff indicates that the curve is flattening.”

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BORIS' COVID HELL Boris Johnson reveals doctors prepared to announce his death as he battled coronavirus

David Wooding, Sunday Political Editor

2 May 2020, 21:30 Updated: 3 May 2020, 9:54

BORIS Johnson has revealed that doctors prepared to announce his death as he battled coronavirus.

The PM told The Sun on Sunday he was given “litres and litres of oxygen” to keep him alive.

He added: “It was a tough old moment, I won’t deny it. They had a strategy to deal with a ‘death of Stalin’-type scenario.

"I was not in particularly brilliant shape and I was aware there were contingency plans in place.

“The doctors had all sorts of arrangements for what to do if things went badly wrong.

“They gave me a face mask so I got litres and litres of oxygen and for a long time I had that and the little nose jobbie.”

The stark reality of his plight quickly struck home when he was wired up to monitors and moved into intensive care.

He told how “the bloody indicators kept going in the wrong direction” and he realised there was no cure for Covid-19.

During his life-or-death struggle at St Thomas’ Hospital last month, Boris kept asking himself: “How am I going to get out of this?”

He recalled: “It was hard to believe that in just a few days my health had deteriorated to this extent. I remember feeling frustrated. I couldn’t understand why I wasn’t getting better.

“But the bad moment came when it was 50-50 whether they were going to have to put a tube down my windpipe.

“That was when it got a bit . . . they were starting to think about how to handle it presentationally."

Sitting in his office at 10 Downing Street, Mr Johnson welled up as he relived the extraordinary two weeks in which he nearly lost his own life but recovered in time to see the birth of another – his new son Wilfred.

He said: “It was thanks to some wonderful, wonderful nursing that I made it. They really did it and they made a huge difference.

“I can’t explain how it happened. I don’t know . . . it was just wonderful to see the . . . ”

His voice falters while his eyes redden and he pauses to take a deep breath.

He continues: “I get emotional about it . . . but it was an extraordinary thing.”

Mr Johnson’s fiancee Carrie Symonds released the first picture of their son on Saturday. He arrived just 17 days after his dad was discharged from hospital.

The tot has the middle name Nicholas - in recognition of doctors Nicholas Price and Nicholas Hart, who saved the PM’s life in intensive care.

Mr Johnson, 55, admits he initially brushed off just how serious it was when he tested positive for coronavirus in late March.

He went into self-isolation in the flat above Downing Street ­— parted from Carrie — but continued to work flat out.

The PM recalled: “The thing was, I was in denial because I was working and I kept doing these meetings by video link.

“But I was really feeling pretty groggy, to be totally honest with you. I was feeling pretty wasted — not in an intoxicated way, but just, you know, pretty rough.”

He then stops suddenly and asks: “Have you had this thing? Well, don’t get it. You don’t want it. I wasn’t struggling to breathe but I just wasn’t in good shape and it wasn’t getting better.

"Then the doctors got anxious because they thought that my readings were not where they wanted them to be.

“Then I was told I had to go into St Thomas’. I said I really didn’t want to go into hospital.

“It didn’t seem to me to be a good move but they were pretty adamant. Looking back, they were right to force me to go.

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Originally posted by 46and2:
What's with MFers wearing masks *alone*, *in their cars*, *windows up*...???

O M G (Becky).

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Originally posted by Patriot:
2909 people died Friday from the virus...

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Originally posted by Bassamatic:
We may never know how many people actually died from this virus. I don't believe any of these numbers.

Just yesterday our daughter told us that a co-workers 87 year old grandmother who has been in a nursing home for months, died from the Wuhan flu. She had diabetes, sever asthma and had been on oxygen. Her death was reported as caused by this virus. She was never tested.

It's all theater.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Do you put your mask on with clean hands before you leave the house only taking it off after you've washed you hands upon returning?

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Originally posted by P210:
Good point. It would be interesting to know if there have been any unexplainable drops in death rates recorded as attributable to other causes.